Quote from KriggY »Filth doesnt look impressive or is it meta call?
a) is it worth to play ONLY creatuers with power 2 or less? Im looking at hellrider or the new black guy
b) I think you play quite a lot of instants/sorceries what about young pyromancer / monastery mentor? for some additional value
c) goblin rabblemaster / siege-gang commander ?
Quote from pizzap »
You don't call "dying to removal" if the removal is more expensive in resources than the creature. If you have to spend BG (Abrupt Decay), or W + basic land (PtE) to remove a 1G, that is not "dying to removal". Strictly speaking Goyf dies to removal, but actually your removal is dying to Goyf.
Quote from 3drinks »Viscera Seer is playable. Altar is not. I like Carrion Feeder more (in a vacuum) but Seer could be a slot over Bloodsoaked Champ, for sure.
Quote from Teysa_Karlov »Quote from 3drinks »Viscera Seer is playable. Altar is not. I like Carrion Feeder more (in a vacuum) but Seer could be a slot over Bloodsoaked Champ, for sure.
Altar in the Reveillark/Karmic or Kiki combos is infinite mana of any combination of colors. I wouldn't call that "unplayable"
Quote from KriggY »Wow didnt see that filthy interaction of those two, very nice
Im not sure if running only 2 or less power is that good. I understand your argument but usualy at least single creature will die each combat so there might be some room to add few strong creatures with power higher than two.
btw: banisher priest over fiend hunter? 2/2 vs 1/3 seems better in aggro deck
Quote from Fortexcross » Just curious but why no Hymn to Tourach? You've got multiple hand disruption effects including things like Castigate but why not one of the best discard spells printed?
Quote from Ridcully »Well, I tested a similar list on Cockatrice and it was pretty disillusioning. I played against Marath, Will of the Wild, Prossh, Skyraider of Kher, Anafenza, the Foremost, Thraximundar and Narset, Enlightened Master
This deck has a quite a few issues:
-It gets outclassed by Doran/Anafenza/Marath. They are faster, they have stronger creatures/general and they can kill Alesha easily.
-Pyroclasm and friends fry your whole board.
-It lacks the speed and the punch to apply enough pressure against control decks
The decks looks alright on paper but lacks the raw power to win against the decks-to-beat. That being said, the deck is definitely fun to play.
Quote from Ridcully »Most Doran and Anafenza lists are tempolists not midrange. They look most of the time like this: http://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=8457&d=248551&f=EDH
"Waiting until the coast is clear" isn't a good idea against control decks like Thraximundar and Narset since they have a very strong mid- and lategame. As an aggro deck you need to apply pressure at which the deck fails at the moment.
Putting the only real threat of the deck into the graveyard doesn't seem very sensible to me. Tortured Existence is a really bad card, it can't hit, it doesn't disrupt the opponent and its interaction with Alesha is cute at best.
Quote from KriggY »But isnt it the exact same problem with the list you provided? I mean you cant realisticaly beat any Gx deck with only 2/x cretures and without any sweeper. Sudden demise comes to mind since its one sided.
The deck also screams for magus of the moon. We play armaggedon and this is basicaly the same vs multicolored decks AND it is a creature.
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less removal and more creatures
pack rat: not good enough, you would rather play the cards than discard them (not sure if I agree here)
I think we can easily play about 35-40 creatures that leaves about 20 for spells. In that case it easily can be maybe 25 creatures with power to fit alesha and the rest just the other good guys like hero of bladehold, restoration angel, hellrider, then the 3/4 angel which stops oponents creatures to activate abilities etc..
Quote from Ph03niX »Were you considering all the possible 0/0 creatures?
Adamaro, First to Desire
Kagemaro, First to Suffer
I know they aren't exactly cheap, but still can be cast later in game and also returned with Alesha right into play.
Quote from Meecht »Most */* creatures don't count because their P/T is still calculated while in the graveyard. For example, if your opponent is at 20 life, Malignus is a 10/10 while in the 'yard.
Quote from Ph03niX »Quote from Meecht »Most */* creatures don't count because their P/T is still calculated while in the graveyard. For example, if your opponent is at 20 life, Malignus is a 10/10 while in the 'yard.
Oh.. Didn't know that. So I need to kick out few cards out of my deck.
And what about cards such as Clockwork Dragon? And other 0/0 which comes with counters into play?
Are some of them useful?