Some day I'm going to get around to combining this primer with my Zenith Kaalia primer to make this a total hub for all things Kaalia in general. Idk if this is something that carries any real genuine interest though in this era of social media killing traditional forums.
Kaalia is where I see this shining most, but I don't think it's good enough at the seven slot. He already has double strike, so on the one trigger he's only buffing Kaalia, which isn't enough...but if you have one other angel, demon, or dragon out, consistently when you drop this, that just might push it over the edge.
Interestingly, I think this thing's value is in a blink shell. Ironically, new Kaalia comes to mind since you have Astral Slide to repeat it, and Heartless Summoning to cheat it faster...
So over the past week and a half, I've stumbled onto a breakthrough with this commander that brings her up to the cDH levels, no it's not STAX or prison. It's combo, and it revolves around Razaketh, the Foulblooded...
White Beast Within and enemy-colored Talismans are crazy hype!
Have you considered Leonin Relic-Warder for the "Razakats" combo in your multiplayer list? I mentioned it in /u/benjameenbear 's primer but here's the relevant excerpt for convenience (original credits to Bad_Dog from the cEDH subreddit):
Requires 1 creature (Kaalia) and 1WWB (this can be shortcut by 1 if you have two lands and a rock in play).
Cheat in Razaketh off Kaalia. Sacrifice Kaalia or another creature (-2 life). Tutor Leonin Relic-Warder. Cast Leonin Relic-Warder (WW). If you have a mana rock in play, exile it. Otherwise, target something you don't like. Sacrifice the Relic Warder (-2 life). This will either bring your rock back untapped or, if done in response to the ETB trigger, permanently exile the problem card. Tutor Animate Dead. Cast Animate Dead targeting Leonin Relic-Warder (1B). Leonin Relic-Warder enters the battlefield. Target Animate Dead. Animate Dead is exiled, sacrifice trigger goes on stack. Sacrifice the Relic-Warder to return Animate Dead, creating a loop where you can repeatedly tutor for -2 life. Tutor up one of your combos and enough fast mana needed to cast it (-2 life per activation).
In your case you could grab a couple fast mana pieces, Entomb, and Necromancy for WGD combo win; if you have B open then all you need is Entomb with the Relic-Warder trigger on the stack. The main cost would be finding a spot for Leonin Relic-Warder, which I think is a reasonable if unexciting card outside of the combo. Seems like it would be a great fit given that you've already included WGD combo, being able to win from Kaalia + Razaketh with 4 open mana and no cards in hand is pretty powerful!
It actually, is, yes. I came across it in the Kaalia discord. I'm still theory crafting it in a wishclaw talisman brew with Gerrard/2nd Sunrise and shallow graves. Welders and memory jars of course.
It's spicy. But a bit overwhelming, so I'm taking my time before I introduce it to the primer.
Sounds interesting! I've been having great success with Razakats combo in the standard Kaalia shell with Worldgorger combo. I won one of my recent multiplayer games on turn 3 which was as satisfying as it sounds. Most tables don't expect Kaalia to be able to clean kill in multiplayer
So I did a little thing in a similar vein to that of the white border Kaalia. I theorized the deck in a pre-modern time and built from there. There's some more info about the thought process in the link that follows. Hope everyone finds it as interesting as I did putting it together.
So I made a update to the main list and primer as a whole today. Not sure it belongs here, since it switches the deck to multiplayer now that no one plays 1v1 commander as it's a busted and horribly unbalanced format.
Please enjoy our latest video. It's the inaugural episode of a podcast-styled series called, Deep Discussions: Kaalia of the Vast. I join up with The Tryhards to do a Kaalia focus discussion. This first episode is on the common pitfalls experienced by new players to the commander, with an aim for a weekly release. Enjoy!
Hey all, it's been a long time since I visited this thread (and mtgslavation all together), I'm getting in a duel commander friendly tournament in a couple of weeks and I was wondering if anyone has a decklist to take as starting point
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Kaalia is where I see this shining most, but I don't think it's good enough at the seven slot. He already has double strike, so on the one trigger he's only buffing Kaalia, which isn't enough...but if you have one other angel, demon, or dragon out, consistently when you drop this, that just might push it over the edge.
Interestingly, I think this thing's value is in a blink shell. Ironically, new Kaalia comes to mind since you have Astral Slide to repeat it, and Heartless Summoning to cheat it faster...
Steel Sabotage'ng Orbs of Mellowness since 2011.
Steel Sabotage'ng Orbs of Mellowness since 2011.
It's spicy. But a bit overwhelming, so I'm taking my time before I introduce it to the primer.
Steel Sabotage'ng Orbs of Mellowness since 2011.
1x Arid Mesa
1x Badlands
1x Blood Crypt
1x Bloodstained Mire
1x Canyon Slough
1x Cavern of Souls
1x Command Tower
1x Flagstones of Trokair
1x Flooded Strand
1x Gemstone Caverns
1x Glimmervoid
1x Godless Shrine
1x Great Furnace
1x Hall of the Bandit Lord
1x Marsh Flats
1x Mountain
1x Plains
1x Plateau
1x Polluted Delta
1x Prismatic Vista
1x Reflecting Pool
1x Sacred Foundry
1x Scalding Tarn
1x Scrubland
1x Smoldering Marsh
1x Snow-Covered Mountain
1x Snow-Covered Plains
1x Snow-Covered Swamp
1x Spire of Industry
1x Strip Mine
1x Swamp
1x Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
1x Vault of Whispers
1x Verdant Catacombs
1x Wasteland
1x Windswept Heath
1x Wooded Foothills
1x Aurelia's Fury
1x Corpse Dance
1x Dismember
1x Enlightened Tutor
1x Fire Covenant
1x Flame Sweep
1x Insidious Dreams
1x Orim's Chant
1x Pyroblast
1x Red Elemental Blast
1x Second Sunrise
1x Shallow Grave
1x Silence
1x Swords to Plowshares
1x Thrill of Possibility
1x Through the Breach
1x Vampiric Tutor
1x Cut / Ribbons
1x Demonic Tutor
1x Diabolic Intent
1x Faithless Looting
1x Gamble
1x Grim Tutor
1x Imperial Seal
1x Kuldotha Rebirth
1x Night's Whisper
1x Ransack the Lab
1x Sevinne's Reclamation
1x Toxic Deluge
1x Animate Dead
1x Dance of the Dead
1x Land TaxIT
1x Necromancy
1x Phyrexian Reclamation
1x Sneak Attack
1x Underworld Breach
1x Kaalia of the Vast
1x Angel of Despair
1x Bogardan Hellkite
1x Demonlord Belzenlok
1x Dockside Extortionist
1x Gerrard, Weatherlight Hero
1x Goblin Welder
1x Grand Abolisher
1x Leonin Relic-Warder
1x Razaketh, the Foulblooded
1x Rune-Scarred Demon
1x Shivan Hellkite
1x Simian Spirit Guide
1x Worldgorger Dragon
1x Arcane Signet
1x Fellwar Stone
1x Lightning Greaves
1x Mana Crypt
1x Mox Diamond
1x Mox Opal
1x Sol Ring
1x Talisman of Conviction
1x Talisman of Hierarchy
1x Talisman of Indulgence
1x Wishclaw Talisman
Deckstats: https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/kaalia-of-the-vast-cdh/
Steel Sabotage'ng Orbs of Mellowness since 2011.
https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/kaalia-of-the-vast-pre-modern/
I liked it, honestly. And it also doesn't sting to get countered like cathartic does.
Steel Sabotage'ng Orbs of Mellowness since 2011.
Steel Sabotage'ng Orbs of Mellowness since 2011.
Steel Sabotage'ng Orbs of Mellowness since 2011.
https://youtu.be/CJMLeE3loW0
Steel Sabotage'ng Orbs of Mellowness since 2011.