Extremely good meeting Commander RC + CAG meeting tonight. Full announcement and updated philosophy document coming on Monday. #mtgcmdr #edh
It's time to pull our our crystal balls and speculate on Monday's announcement. Personally, I think you better play Iona one last time because her days are numbered.
I don't expect any huge changes right off the bat. The philosophy document will be the main thing. Could mention potential areas for change down the road.
Maybe they could squeeze one or two bannings, but I think it would detract from the philosophy document, unless the philosophy document specifically discusses something that is clearly violated by a card.
I would be fairly surprised if there were not some sort of enhancement of the criteria to broaden the "combos with multiple things" item that currently exists (undesirable game states). And because "undesirable game states" is so broad and relatively crappy as a criteria I think it will receive a lot of clarification if it stays around.
About a month ago the Wizards podcast did an episode with I think 5 of the 6 CAG members, and they were asked what they would banned. Every single one of them said Iona, so I can't believe she is going to remain legal in the long run.
In that same podcast, or a similar one, most (i think all) of the CAG members there didnt think that PE was an issue cause it wasnt that strong or they didn’t really see it being played. They also had some other pretty hot takes, so we’ll see. The only thing I’ve heard reliably is that some relevant change is coming (ie not just to the document).
About a month ago the Wizards podcast did an episode with I think 5 of the 6 CAG members, and they were asked what they would banned. Every single one of them said Iona, so I can't believe she is going to remain legal in the long run.
I'd be happy with that banning, although I can't say I've personally seen her in a long time.
In that same podcast, or a similar one, most (i think all) of the CAG members there didnt think that PE was an issue cause it wasnt that strong or they didn’t really see it being played. They also had some other pretty hot takes, so we’ll see. The only thing I’ve heard reliably is that some relevant change is coming (ie not just to the document).
I don't recall that, but I know that the RC/CAG is divided on the pervasiveness of PE.
I’m not sure if its the same one. The one I’m referencing had Baetog and Kwai missing, so it was 4/6 not 5/6 like you mentioned.
I think they were both absent, so we are probably thinking of the same episode and I simply don't remember because it didn't stick out like their unifiednstance on Iona.
About a month ago the Wizards podcast did an episode with I think 5 of the 6 CAG members, and they were asked what they would banned. Every single one of them said Iona, so I can't believe she is going to remain legal in the long run.
Man I wish. People on the RC have fought for it on their forum more than once, I bet it stays until the end of time.
If people are sick of reading about stuff just stop taking part. You have 100% control over what you read. Simic Ascendancy isn't going to get banned just because you didn't tell someone to shut up on the internet.
Lol, if it turns out there are no changes, I'm going to be so salty.
It's not entirely outside the realm of possibility that this happens. They could be taking baby steps with the CAG: introduce them, formalize their charter, solidify their vision and philosophy, and THEN start banning and/or unbanning things and making rules changes.
It's time to pull our our crystal balls and speculate on Monday's announcement. Personally, I think you better play Iona one last time because her days are numbered.
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My money is on rules changes, maybe BaaC coming back.
Maybe some unbans.
Nothing too drastic in general.
And fast mana to get banned, but in such a way that I'll be able to trade off my 3 mana crypts before it craters.
Neither of those things is likely to happen of course. Well, crypt could maybe get banned, but sol ring won't.
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EDH
Thrasios+Bruse - Pang - Sasaya - Wydwen - Feather - Rona - Toshiro - Sylvia+Khorvath - Geth - QMarchesa - Firesong - Athreos - Arixmethes - Isperia - Etali - Silas+Sidar - Saskia - Virtus+Gorm - Kynaios - Naban - Aryel - Mizzix - Kazuul - Tymna+Kraum - Sidar+Tymna - Ayli - Gwendlyn - Phelddagrif 4 - Liliana - Kaervek - Phelddagrif 3 - Mairsil - Scarab - Child - Phenax - Shirei - Thada - Depala - Circu - Kytheon - GrenzoHR - Phelddagrif - Reyhan+Kraum - Toshiro - Varolz - Nin - Ojutai - Tasigur - Zedruu - Uril - Edric - Wort - Zurgo - Nahiri - Grenzo - Kozilek - Yisan - Ink-Treader - Yisan - Brago - Sidisi - Toshiro - Alexi - Sygg - Brimaz - Sek'Kuar - Marchesa - Vish Kal - Iroas - Phelddagrif - Ephara - Derevi - Glissa - Wanderer - Saffi - Melek - Xiahou Dun - Lazav - Lin Sivvi - Zirilan - Glissa
PDH - Drake - Graverobber - Izzet GM - Tallowisp - Symbiote Brawl - Feather - Ugin - Jace - Scarab - Angrath - Vraska - Kumena Oathbreaker - Wrenn&6
Maybe they could squeeze one or two bannings, but I think it would detract from the philosophy document, unless the philosophy document specifically discusses something that is clearly violated by a card.
8.RG Green Devotion Ramp/Combo 9.UR Draw Triggers 10.WUR Group stalling 11.WUR Voltron Spellslinger 12.WB Sacrificial Shenanigans
13.BR Creatureless Panharmonicon 14.BR Pingers and Eldrazi 15.URG Untapped Cascading
16.Reyhan, last of the Abzan's WUBG +1/+1 Counter Craziness 17.WUBRG Dragons aka Why did I make this?
Building: The Gitrog Monster lands, Glissa the Traitor stax, Muldrotha, the Gravetide Planeswalker Combo, Kydele, Chosen of Kruphix + Sidar Kondo of Jamuraa Clues, and Tribal Scarecrow Planeswalkers
Paradox engine banning feels high likelihood to me.
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Phelddagrif - Zirilan
EDH
Thrasios+Bruse - Pang - Sasaya - Wydwen - Feather - Rona - Toshiro - Sylvia+Khorvath - Geth - QMarchesa - Firesong - Athreos - Arixmethes - Isperia - Etali - Silas+Sidar - Saskia - Virtus+Gorm - Kynaios - Naban - Aryel - Mizzix - Kazuul - Tymna+Kraum - Sidar+Tymna - Ayli - Gwendlyn - Phelddagrif 4 - Liliana - Kaervek - Phelddagrif 3 - Mairsil - Scarab - Child - Phenax - Shirei - Thada - Depala - Circu - Kytheon - GrenzoHR - Phelddagrif - Reyhan+Kraum - Toshiro - Varolz - Nin - Ojutai - Tasigur - Zedruu - Uril - Edric - Wort - Zurgo - Nahiri - Grenzo - Kozilek - Yisan - Ink-Treader - Yisan - Brago - Sidisi - Toshiro - Alexi - Sygg - Brimaz - Sek'Kuar - Marchesa - Vish Kal - Iroas - Phelddagrif - Ephara - Derevi - Glissa - Wanderer - Saffi - Melek - Xiahou Dun - Lazav - Lin Sivvi - Zirilan - Glissa
PDH - Drake - Graverobber - Izzet GM - Tallowisp - Symbiote Brawl - Feather - Ugin - Jace - Scarab - Angrath - Vraska - Kumena Oathbreaker - Wrenn&6
Her and Stasis are the only two "I'm trying to take the game away from other players" cards I see ran. And Stasis is only in Estrid.
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Maybe PS unbanning.
8.RG Green Devotion Ramp/Combo 9.UR Draw Triggers 10.WUR Group stalling 11.WUR Voltron Spellslinger 12.WB Sacrificial Shenanigans
13.BR Creatureless Panharmonicon 14.BR Pingers and Eldrazi 15.URG Untapped Cascading
16.Reyhan, last of the Abzan's WUBG +1/+1 Counter Craziness 17.WUBRG Dragons aka Why did I make this?
Building: The Gitrog Monster lands, Glissa the Traitor stax, Muldrotha, the Gravetide Planeswalker Combo, Kydele, Chosen of Kruphix + Sidar Kondo of Jamuraa Clues, and Tribal Scarecrow Planeswalkers
I don't recall that, but I know that the RC/CAG is divided on the pervasiveness of PE.
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I think they were both absent, so we are probably thinking of the same episode and I simply don't remember because it didn't stick out like their unifiednstance on Iona.
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They have said no ban list changes would happen Monday.
I think adjustment of the philosophy and ban criteria to encourage more 'social/casula play'.
That will lead to some new bans the next go around (My guess is Paradox Engine, maybe a few more).
Man I wish. People on the RC have fought for it on their forum more than once, I bet it stays until the end of time.
Should be this
Don't mind me, just enjoying the speculation
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GWU Angus Mackenzie's Fog of War GWU / B Sheoldred's Sleepless Cemetery B / R Ashling's Purifying Pilgrimage R
U Unesh's Sphinx Storm U / R Ib's Goblins: What It Says On The Tin R / UR Okaun & Zndrsplt Flip Out UR
Oathbreaker: UB Ashiok's Persistent Nightmare UB
Can we make a thread to ask you questions about the announcement?
8.RG Green Devotion Ramp/Combo 9.UR Draw Triggers 10.WUR Group stalling 11.WUR Voltron Spellslinger 12.WB Sacrificial Shenanigans
13.BR Creatureless Panharmonicon 14.BR Pingers and Eldrazi 15.URG Untapped Cascading
16.Reyhan, last of the Abzan's WUBG +1/+1 Counter Craziness 17.WUBRG Dragons aka Why did I make this?
Building: The Gitrog Monster lands, Glissa the Traitor stax, Muldrotha, the Gravetide Planeswalker Combo, Kydele, Chosen of Kruphix + Sidar Kondo of Jamuraa Clues, and Tribal Scarecrow Planeswalkers
Sure, once it's up on Monday, I'll be happy to talk about it.
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GWU Angus Mackenzie's Fog of War GWU / B Sheoldred's Sleepless Cemetery B / R Ashling's Purifying Pilgrimage R
U Unesh's Sphinx Storm U / R Ib's Goblins: What It Says On The Tin R / UR Okaun & Zndrsplt Flip Out UR
Oathbreaker: UB Ashiok's Persistent Nightmare UB
In all seriousness, did you attend the meeting? Do you all Skype in, or Discord chat?
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GWU Angus Mackenzie's Fog of War GWU / B Sheoldred's Sleepless Cemetery B / R Ashling's Purifying Pilgrimage R
U Unesh's Sphinx Storm U / R Ib's Goblins: What It Says On The Tin R / UR Okaun & Zndrsplt Flip Out UR
Oathbreaker: UB Ashiok's Persistent Nightmare UB
EDH Primers
Phelddagrif - Zirilan
EDH
Thrasios+Bruse - Pang - Sasaya - Wydwen - Feather - Rona - Toshiro - Sylvia+Khorvath - Geth - QMarchesa - Firesong - Athreos - Arixmethes - Isperia - Etali - Silas+Sidar - Saskia - Virtus+Gorm - Kynaios - Naban - Aryel - Mizzix - Kazuul - Tymna+Kraum - Sidar+Tymna - Ayli - Gwendlyn - Phelddagrif 4 - Liliana - Kaervek - Phelddagrif 3 - Mairsil - Scarab - Child - Phenax - Shirei - Thada - Depala - Circu - Kytheon - GrenzoHR - Phelddagrif - Reyhan+Kraum - Toshiro - Varolz - Nin - Ojutai - Tasigur - Zedruu - Uril - Edric - Wort - Zurgo - Nahiri - Grenzo - Kozilek - Yisan - Ink-Treader - Yisan - Brago - Sidisi - Toshiro - Alexi - Sygg - Brimaz - Sek'Kuar - Marchesa - Vish Kal - Iroas - Phelddagrif - Ephara - Derevi - Glissa - Wanderer - Saffi - Melek - Xiahou Dun - Lazav - Lin Sivvi - Zirilan - Glissa
PDH - Drake - Graverobber - Izzet GM - Tallowisp - Symbiote Brawl - Feather - Ugin - Jace - Scarab - Angrath - Vraska - Kumena Oathbreaker - Wrenn&6
It's not entirely outside the realm of possibility that this happens. They could be taking baby steps with the CAG: introduce them, formalize their charter, solidify their vision and philosophy, and THEN start banning and/or unbanning things and making rules changes.
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