But how is it not stopping them? If they're beating you with creatures that means they're spending their mana to keep their creatures around, which has to be good for you.
Yeah, but it's not as good for you, as it is bad for you that you're pissing everyone off and having their dudes slam into your face.
If it helps you totally lock them down it's good, but otherwise it's mostly a liability.
I guess it's meta dependent - if you're never the target and/or your opponents tend to keep full grips while you empty yours, then I suppose it seems good. I'd say it's less a draw 7 and more a draw x-y, where x is the average cards in your opponents hands and y is the cards in your hand. So if they had an average 10 card hand while you had 3, then sure, it's insane. 10-3 = 7. If you and your opponents all had 3-4 cards in hand, though, then you've basically accomplished nothing.
Personally I'm usually a control player and I usually have a full-ish grip. My opponents are usually idiots and usually don't. And while I'm not always the target, I'd say I'm the target more often than average, so any extra gas I give them is very possibly coming directly in my face.
So, timetwister sits in a box mostly.
I concur. I owned a twister for about seven years, and played the heck out of it. I quickly realized that it blows up in my face as much as it didn’t and took some care using. Same deal with Wheel of Fortune. Still a hoot to play, though.
The reason Timetwister doesn't go into every blue deck is because the vast majority of people playing blue decks can't afford it. I struggle to think of many decks that could run it where Timetwister isn't in the best 99 cards you could put in there.
And the other two blue P9 cards are even better. Time Walk is so much stronger than Time Warp. The difference between 2 mana and 5 is incredible. I can't think of any reason not to put Walk in a deck - worst case, from turn two onwards, it basically reads "0: Draw a card, you may play an extra land this turn". Which is insanely powerful in of itself. Then look at what you can actually do with a extra turn that takes a mere two mana to cast....
I own Tabernacle, Bazaar, Moat, Abyss, Nether Void but I still to this day don't own Timetwister because its only powerful if you put it to use in the right kind of deck (generally tempo combo). I won't deny its power but if you are not interested in seeing how fast you can go off its actually not that strong of a card for a battlecruiser style of deck.
There is NOOOOOOOOOOO way I would not own Ancestral Recall / Time Walk and jam them in every single deck I ever built with blue. Timetwister belongs in very specific types of decks and if you are not playing combo in blue then you tend to be more control oriented which tends to play worse into a wheels gameplan (generally speaking).
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Another part of the pricing people out is I rarely see cards like duals/LED/tabernacle/etc etc in decks that would traditionally be of the power level in which the RC bans or unbans cards for anymore.
It isn't a guarantee that because you have a super expensive card you are playing a powerful deck but the math typically checks out I find.
According to the EDH rules committee, the Power 9 is banned because of how inaccessible the cards are to almost everyone. If you look today at the price of Tabernacle, it currently exceeds the prices of every Power 9 card with the exception of [card]Black Lotus.
Thats a pretty bad misrepresentation of what 'Barrier to Entry' means. Ubiquity is also part of the rule, like everyone would play Lotus, but Tabernacle is pretty niche. You dont need it to compete, but Moxes you would.
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According to the EDH rules committee, the Power 9 is banned because of how inaccessible the cards are to almost everyone. If you look today at the price of Tabernacle, it currently exceeds the prices of every Power 9 card with the exception of [card]Black Lotus.
Thats a pretty bad misrepresentation of what 'Barrier to Entry' means. Ubiquity is also part of the rule, like everyone would play Lotus, but Tabernacle is pretty niche. You dont need it to compete, but Moxes you would.
I agree with MRHBlue's assessment.
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If it helps you totally lock them down it's good, but otherwise it's mostly a liability.
Again - I own one. Trust me. It's a niche card.
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I own Tabernacle, Bazaar, Moat, Abyss, Nether Void but I still to this day don't own Timetwister because its only powerful if you put it to use in the right kind of deck (generally tempo combo). I won't deny its power but if you are not interested in seeing how fast you can go off its actually not that strong of a card for a battlecruiser style of deck.
There is NOOOOOOOOOOO way I would not own Ancestral Recall / Time Walk and jam them in every single deck I ever built with blue. Timetwister belongs in very specific types of decks and if you are not playing combo in blue then you tend to be more control oriented which tends to play worse into a wheels gameplan (generally speaking).
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It isn't a guarantee that because you have a super expensive card you are playing a powerful deck but the math typically checks out I find.
I agree with MRHBlue's assessment.