I'm sure it's legal to advertise new forums in this forum, but it still feels kind of wrong. You could've advertise this on EDHREC, which I'm sure many of us visit anyway, at least then it would be a neutral ground for people to pick and decide. Posting it here, alongside with a negative outlook, you're actively contributing to the "last gasp" by luring people away, while benefiting your new home.
Fair enough. I still won't take back anything I said, because I genuinely believe that MTGNexus will provide a better experience for the MTGSal community and because of the reasons that ISBFinder states below.
I'm sure it's legal to advertise new forums in this forum, but it still feels kind of wrong. You could've advertise this on EDHREC, which I'm sure many of us visit anyway, at least then it would be a neutral ground for people to pick and decide. Posting it here, alongside with a negative outlook, you're actively contributing to the "last gasp" by luring people away, while benefiting your new home.
Technically promoting Nexus goes against the rules of the site. The issue is in part that almost the entire moderator team is transitioning off. The fact that we were told that the site would be entirely shut down the moderator team started making plans to replace salvation. The announcement that was made came well after Feyd our technician started making nexus well after we had ourselves attempted to purchase salvation to keep it going and were told that would not be possible.
Its actually kind of *****ty to tell everyone that the site is closing, make alternative plans, and then say its all good its going to continue. The point being that they have created a fractured community with how this was handled. I am not on staff anymore and am not in the loop but the last I heard the new owner had not really done much communication with the staff about plans and how to continue and replace the staff that were leaving.
So, yes technically everything about this thread should not be allowed but the staff that would normally stop this from happening have all been burned essentially with this transition. I have no idea who plans to still be on site working as a staff member but I have already seen several step away. If you look at the commander forums you will see that only two of five moderators are still listed. I believe wildfire is an admin on nexus as well so I don't know what his plans are but I think bob had intended to remain here (not really sure though).
So, yes its kind of *****ty but lots of people feel burned on this and the advantage of moving is mostly that Feyd (who was our technician here for the last several years) is essentially the sole owner of the new site and he is making huge changes and improvements all the time where salvation has been limping along for years now from a development standpoint.
100% agreed. This transition was handled in an embarrassing fashion and I don't feel any qualms about my thread. The sudden feeling of sickness in my gut was awful as is the sense of outrage that MTGSalvation's regular staff were sidestepped for some random Curse dude for acquisition.
I genuinely believe in the sentiment and thread that I've posted here, no matter how disingenuous or cutthroat it may feel. I'm sure it will be taken down eventually, but I have no desires to remain active on this site.
Fair enough. I still won't take back anything I said, because I genuinely believe that MTGNexus will provide a better experience for the MTGSal community and because of the reasons that ISBFinder states below.
Nor would I ask you to take it back. What's said is said. You listed valid points in your post and my complaint was mostly a moral one.
Technically promoting Nexus goes against the rules of the site. The issue is in part that almost the entire moderator team is transitioning off. The fact that we were told that the site would be entirely shut down the moderator team started making plans to replace salvation. The announcement that was made came well after Feyd our technician started making nexus well after we had ourselves attempted to purchase salvation to keep it going and were told that would not be possible.
Its actually kind of *****ty to tell everyone that the site is closing, make alternative plans, and then say its all good its going to continue. The point being that they have created a fractured community with how this was handled. I am not on staff anymore and am not in the loop but the last I heard the new owner had not really done much communication with the staff about plans and how to continue and replace the staff that were leaving.
So, yes technically everything about this thread should not be allowed but the staff that would normally stop this from happening have all been burned essentially with this transition. I have no idea who plans to still be on site working as a staff member but I have already seen several step away. If you look at the commander forums you will see that only two of five moderators are still listed. I believe wildfire is an admin on nexus as well so I don't know what his plans are but I think bob had intended to remain here (not really sure though).
So, yes its kind of *****ty but lots of people feel burned on this and the advantage of moving is mostly that Feyd (who was our technician here for the last several years) is essentially the sole owner of the new site and he is making huge changes and improvements all the time where salvation has been limping along for years now from a development standpoint.
100% agreed. This transition was handled in an embarrassing fashion and I don't feel any qualms about my thread. The sudden feeling of sickness in my gut was awful as is the sense of outrage that MTGSalvation's regular staff were sidestepped for some random Curse dude for acquisition.
I genuinely believe in the sentiment and thread that I've posted here, no matter how disingenuous or cutthroat it may feel. I'm sure it will be taken down eventually, but I have no desires to remain active on this site.
And I thank you two for clarifying the story behind this transition, and the challenges your team had to go through.
The thing of it is, everything they said are things which got the site to this point. None of it is relevant now, because the site has new owneez.for all we know, once they get settled with the transition they may do some heavy dev work and roll out some cool new features. No one can say for sure. When we were owned by Curse, there was red tape. A lot of it. And the more we got swallowed up the more tape there was and the more that precious dev time got divided among projects.
I'm not going to speak one way or another about the current owners of this site because to be perfectly honest they weren't any of the Curse reps that I dealt with personally. I know OF one of them from speaking with other staff members, but that's about it. But the fact of the matter is that this site isn't going anywhere and it'll do what it has always done when staff members leave: hire new ones and carry on. I know Bob is still here and I've already said that I would help the new staff if they'd like, as well as offer my opinions on any potential hires. And maybe some fresh blood with a new vision is going to be a good thing. I don't know. But there's no reason why the two communities can't coexist. This forum isn't threatened by the official forums, and vice versa.
I'm sure it's legal to advertise new forums in this forum, but it still feels kind of wrong. You could've advertise this on EDHREC, which I'm sure many of us visit anyway, at least then it would be a neutral ground for people to pick and decide. Posting it here, alongside with a negative outlook, you're actively contributing to the "last gasp" by luring people away, while benefiting your new home.
Prior to Nexus coming online, Magic Find had expressed willingness to let the Nexus staff permission to say a few words in parting to promote the new site. What the details of that were, are rather vague.
At this time, I believe the message has been said, and this thread will be closed from here.
Fair enough. I still won't take back anything I said, because I genuinely believe that MTGNexus will provide a better experience for the MTGSal community and because of the reasons that ISBFinder states below.
100% agreed. This transition was handled in an embarrassing fashion and I don't feel any qualms about my thread. The sudden feeling of sickness in my gut was awful as is the sense of outrage that MTGSalvation's regular staff were sidestepped for some random Curse dude for acquisition.
I genuinely believe in the sentiment and thread that I've posted here, no matter how disingenuous or cutthroat it may feel. I'm sure it will be taken down eventually, but I have no desires to remain active on this site.
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Nor would I ask you to take it back. What's said is said. You listed valid points in your post and my complaint was mostly a moral one.
And I thank you two for clarifying the story behind this transition, and the challenges your team had to go through.
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I'm not going to speak one way or another about the current owners of this site because to be perfectly honest they weren't any of the Curse reps that I dealt with personally. I know OF one of them from speaking with other staff members, but that's about it. But the fact of the matter is that this site isn't going anywhere and it'll do what it has always done when staff members leave: hire new ones and carry on. I know Bob is still here and I've already said that I would help the new staff if they'd like, as well as offer my opinions on any potential hires. And maybe some fresh blood with a new vision is going to be a good thing. I don't know. But there's no reason why the two communities can't coexist. This forum isn't threatened by the official forums, and vice versa.
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Prior to Nexus coming online, Magic Find had expressed willingness to let the Nexus staff permission to say a few words in parting to promote the new site. What the details of that were, are rather vague.
At this time, I believe the message has been said, and this thread will be closed from here.
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