Hey all. After Changeling outcast got spoiled, I had to start looking at making a slot for it and this made me really look into my decklist. Anywho, theres something thats been bugging me for a while... my list only runs 1 enchantment. Seeing as theres next to a 1% chance of running into the card, I figured I my as well run some "mass enchantment hate" or however you would word it.
Anyone know of any stax-y cards that screw over enchantments either as a one-time effect or an ongoing type of effect in U/B? The way I see it, stax cards are always best when they affect you significantly less than your opponents (for example, my list runs cursed totem as it barely affects my list at all) and it just makes sense to include some anti-enchantment stax. My knowledge on the sets over the last 2 years is extremely limited (IRL my free-time is quite affected as of late) and maybe theres some new stuff you could suggest.
(Also, general yuriko thread. Tell me things that have been working for you or haven't been as great as you'd thought they would be )
UB is pretty terrible against enchantments (until they accidentally print solid B enchantment hate), it's a weakness of the color combination. The question would be, what enchantments do you find yourself struggling against? In a competitive setting you don't really care about your opponents Libraries or Studies. You have your own gameplan you're enacting.
I dont really struggle against any enchantment in particular, I just feel like seeing as my list only has 1 enchantment in it, running something like Aura flux for example may be quite effective just for the asymmetrical stax. I just dont know too much about recent sets and was wondering if there was more efficient enchantment hate than said aura flux I suppose. You're right though, maybe the best way to beat enchantments is to just ignore them all together and focus my gameplan. I've heard something about black getting enchantment hate soon-ish. Hopefully its more efficient than running spine of ish sah-type cards.
Not sure if you have the pockets for them, eldrazi are nice things to hit with yuriko. Desolation twin is 10.
Scroll rack is also really good. Hit with your ninjas, and then see how many connect. Before triggers resolve, scroll rack your big stuff to your deck. I connected with 4 ninjas and scrolled racked 3 eldrazi and a 9 cost card. Together, 40 CMC.
I swear by Aura Thief. Most enchantments aren't a problem if you control them.
Thats actually a pretty damn good suggestion. Hadn't considered the old aura thief for Yuriko. My deck runs a multitude of ways to kill him too (phyrexian tower, plaguecrafter and toxic deluge et al to name a few). I'll have to give him a go.
Not sure if you have the pockets for them, eldrazi are nice things to hit with yuriko. Desolation twin is 10.
Scroll rack is also really good. Hit with your ninjas, and then see how many connect. Before triggers resolve, scroll rack your big stuff to your deck. I connected with 4 ninjas and scrolled racked 3 eldrazi and a 9 cost card. Together, 40 CMC.
My deck is running paper timetwister, capture of jingzhou and chains of mephistopheles for example, money isnt an issue (to be honest I bought the reserved list cards for this when all 3 of those were under 400 dollars haha). But seriously though, the sky's the limit. As for the eldrazi, i find them to be a bit too clunky. I hear Emrakul, the promised end is borderline playable and can prevent losses when played at the perfect moment, but so far it seems a bit "winmore". My go-to strategy at the moment has been using all 13 time magic spells, tutoring, recurring and chaining them to do like 60 damage to each opponent by turn 4/5. I really should test emrakul out to be honest. I think with timetwister, temporal trespass and time spiral, I just never have the graveyard required to lower it's CMC to a playable level.
Not a bad card per se, but I dont think this will make it in the deck. Yuriko loves its ninjas as close to the ground as possible. After all, a changeling outcast and fallen shinobi nearly do the same amount of damage (not much of a difference between say, doing 13 damage and 17 damage if you were to reveal a massacre for example). Ultimately you gotta ask yourself "is the 5 or so cmc to cast this worth its play two of your opponents top cards ability" I think the answer is a pretty solid "no" (nice addition for ninja tribal however). On a side note, I am absolutely ecstatic that this set (block hopefully!) has been reprinting both changeling AND ninjutsu. Exciting time to be a Yuriko player.
Not a bad card per se, but I dont think this will make it in the deck. Yuriko loves its ninjas as close to the ground as possible. After all, a changeling outcast and fallen shinobi nearly do the same amount of damage (not much of a difference between say, doing 13 damage and 17 damage if you were to reveal a massacre for example). Ultimately you gotta ask yourself "is the 5 or so cmc to cast this worth its play two of your opponents top cards ability" I think the answer is a pretty solid "no" (nice addition for ninja tribal however). On a side note, I am absolutely ecstatic that this set (block hopefully!) has been reprinting both changeling AND ninjutsu. Exciting time to be a Yuriko player.
well I do not run changelings but my yuriko deck is ninja tribal with all three conspiracy effect cards. I have a lot of unblockable, both to get the ninjas in play and when they become ninjas, trigger yuriko.
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Anyone know of any stax-y cards that screw over enchantments either as a one-time effect or an ongoing type of effect in U/B? The way I see it, stax cards are always best when they affect you significantly less than your opponents (for example, my list runs cursed totem as it barely affects my list at all) and it just makes sense to include some anti-enchantment stax. My knowledge on the sets over the last 2 years is extremely limited (IRL my free-time is quite affected as of late) and maybe theres some new stuff you could suggest.
(Also, general yuriko thread. Tell me things that have been working for you or haven't been as great as you'd thought they would be )
Scroll rack is also really good. Hit with your ninjas, and then see how many connect. Before triggers resolve, scroll rack your big stuff to your deck. I connected with 4 ninjas and scrolled racked 3 eldrazi and a 9 cost card. Together, 40 CMC.
Thats actually a pretty damn good suggestion. Hadn't considered the old aura thief for Yuriko. My deck runs a multitude of ways to kill him too (phyrexian tower, plaguecrafter and toxic deluge et al to name a few). I'll have to give him a go.
My deck is running paper timetwister, capture of jingzhou and chains of mephistopheles for example, money isnt an issue (to be honest I bought the reserved list cards for this when all 3 of those were under 400 dollars haha). But seriously though, the sky's the limit. As for the eldrazi, i find them to be a bit too clunky. I hear Emrakul, the promised end is borderline playable and can prevent losses when played at the perfect moment, but so far it seems a bit "winmore". My go-to strategy at the moment has been using all 13 time magic spells, tutoring, recurring and chaining them to do like 60 damage to each opponent by turn 4/5. I really should test emrakul out to be honest. I think with timetwister, temporal trespass and time spiral, I just never have the graveyard required to lower it's CMC to a playable level.
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Not a bad card per se, but I dont think this will make it in the deck. Yuriko loves its ninjas as close to the ground as possible. After all, a changeling outcast and fallen shinobi nearly do the same amount of damage (not much of a difference between say, doing 13 damage and 17 damage if you were to reveal a massacre for example). Ultimately you gotta ask yourself "is the 5 or so cmc to cast this worth its play two of your opponents top cards ability" I think the answer is a pretty solid "no" (nice addition for ninja tribal however). On a side note, I am absolutely ecstatic that this set (block hopefully!) has been reprinting both changeling AND ninjutsu. Exciting time to be a Yuriko player.