I am playing in a creature heavy meta, and I am having a hard time getting the "pulse" of the meta. Game after game I can either play a combo deck and feel dirty, or I just get run over with any other deck (Ninjas, Elves, Goblins, etc).
So I am looking for a deck that punishes players for playing creatures, and screws up everything to do with turning creatures sideways.
Ninjas, elves and goblins don’t tend to have a ton of recursion so running reasonable removal should be fine. My Dralnu build is mostly a spellslinger build, and there’s some decent stuff I run that just totally hoses these sort of decks. Night of Souls’ Betrayal, Archfiend of Ifnir and Void Winnower are all excellent there. It actually stubs me how few decks run Archfiend because it’s been absolutely devastating for me wherever I run it. That being said if you’re not into looting Massacre Wurm, Demon of Dark Schemes or Massacre Girl could help.
I’m not even sure if those are in your colors though - Norn could help, Ixidron, Insurrection, Alpha Brawl, Thalia, Heretic Cathar too - surprisingly in that last case. Obviously it’s not removal but it does slow those sort of decks down nicely. Constant Mists, Arachnogenesis, Spike Weaver for green - although to be fair I can’t think of anything off the top of my head in terms of actual removal for green.
My mono-blue deck runs Overburden. If you play black you could run Spreading Plague. Both of those cards are extremely difficult for creature decks to beat because they can never establish a board.
Did someone say creature hate? I'm pretty sure someone said creature hate.
My Erebos list is pretty good at blowing dudes up. From Damnation to Tainted Aether to Smallpox, it does a good job of removing existing creatures and preventing newly played ones from becoming too relevant. If your meta is virtually nothing but low to the ground aggro decks that focus you I would make some adjustments, such as playing lower cost spot removal and edicts as well as Night of Souls' Betrayal and other cards toc mentioned, but otherwise it should do well fresh out of the box.
I think that the best way to go is to play the control role in either an Azorius, Dimir, or Esper deck. There are enough board wipes and/or mass-bounce spells to buy enough time to try and run the creature decks out of resources, after which you can take over the game with CA engines while they sputter with synergy cards that require multiple creatures in play.
So I am looking for a deck that punishes players for playing creatures, and screws up everything to do with turning creatures sideways.
Any help is appreciated, thanks!
Azusa - Derevi - Glissa - Mizzix - Sharuum - Wanderer - Wort
Or you can just go super heavy control with child of alara/gift of immortality/phyrexian tower.
I think just off the top of my head, those are pretty reasonable ways to go. Or maybe you can even go elesh norn, grand cenobite with helm of the hosts?
One deck that I had used aaaaages ago was a mono-white stax deck.
Legacy - Solidarity - mono U aggro - burn - Imperial Painter - Strawberry Shortcake - Bluuzards - bom
I’m not even sure if those are in your colors though - Norn could help, Ixidron, Insurrection, Alpha Brawl, Thalia, Heretic Cathar too - surprisingly in that last case. Obviously it’s not removal but it does slow those sort of decks down nicely. Constant Mists, Arachnogenesis, Spike Weaver for green - although to be fair I can’t think of anything off the top of my head in terms of actual removal for green.
The other route would be going full blown creature hate. I'm currently building a creatureless Keranos, God of the Storms deck of that kind, that utilizes Aether Flash, Dingus Staff, Dream Tides, Overburden, Repercussion, Smoke and about every viable red board wipe. If you want to be an utter d*ck, add in Burning Sands, too.
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My Erebos list is pretty good at blowing dudes up. From Damnation to Tainted Aether to Smallpox, it does a good job of removing existing creatures and preventing newly played ones from becoming too relevant. If your meta is virtually nothing but low to the ground aggro decks that focus you I would make some adjustments, such as playing lower cost spot removal and edicts as well as Night of Souls' Betrayal and other cards toc mentioned, but otherwise it should do well fresh out of the box.
[Primer] Erebos, God of the Dead
HONK HONK
Just play a little Propaganda and keep them focused on each other.
If you go full ham on the sweepers, edict crazy, or whatever, you're just gonna turn into the archenemy.
UW Ephara Hatebears [Primer], GB Gitrog Lands, BRU Inalla Combo-Control, URG Maelstrom Wanderer Landfall
Burning Sands
spreading plague
but I think pillowfort is also great
8.RG Green Devotion Ramp/Combo 9.UR Draw Triggers 10.WUR Group stalling 11.WUR Voltron Spellslinger 12.WB Sacrificial Shenanigans
13.BR Creatureless Panharmonicon 14.BR Pingers and Eldrazi 15.URG Untapped Cascading
16.Reyhan, last of the Abzan's WUBG +1/+1 Counter Craziness 17.WUBRG Dragons aka Why did I make this?
Building: The Gitrog Monster lands, Glissa the Traitor stax, Muldrotha, the Gravetide Planeswalker Combo, Kydele, Chosen of Kruphix + Sidar Kondo of Jamuraa Clues, and Tribal Scarecrow Planeswalkers
Web of Inertia, Torpor Orb, Cursed Totem, Humility.
Add a Night of Souls' Betrayal and I'm sold....
I think that the best way to go is to play the control role in either an Azorius, Dimir, or Esper deck. There are enough board wipes and/or mass-bounce spells to buy enough time to try and run the creature decks out of resources, after which you can take over the game with CA engines while they sputter with synergy cards that require multiple creatures in play.
Jalira, Master Polymorphist | Endrek Sahr, Master Breeder | Bosh, Iron Golem | Ezuri, Renegade Leader
Brago, King Eternal | Oona, Queen of the Fae | Wort, Boggart Auntie | Wort, the Raidmother
Captain Sisay | Rhys, the Redeemed | Trostani, Selesnya's Voice | Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight | Obzedat, Ghost Council | Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind | Vorel of the Hull Clade
Uril, the Miststalker | Prossh, Skyraider of Kher | Nicol Bolas | Progenitus
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[Primer] Erebos, God of the Dead
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Feather, the Redeemed
Estrid, the Masked
Teshar
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Najeela, Blade-Blossom
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Zur the Enchanter
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