Quote from plushpenguin »First item that comes to mind that you can use as a potential card if you need it is Phyrexian Tower. They got cheap and you can absolutely use the 2 black mana.
Quote from Dragonlover »You've got a reasonable amount of self life loss stuff, have you considered Repay in Kind?
Quote from Dunharrow »Have you considered running Anger? I have to imagine that sometimes you would rather not discard spells if you didn't have to...
Quote from Outcryqq »Have you considered Archfiend of Ifnir? Reasonably-costed flying beater, nice to give it haste and a counter, but also really rewards you for playing the deck the way you want. Every time you discard, you get to -1/-1 the whole opponents’ board. Could take the spot of a removal and not even feel bad about it. Also gives you the ability to deal with indestructible or hexproof, if that’s a problem in your meta.
Quote from BaronCappuccino »Since Olivia's schtick makes every creature you cast a vampire, you might get more mileage out of Coat of Arms than most other tribal decks that have to compromise here and there.
Quote from toctheyounger77 »Looks properly Rakdos, and I’m totally unsurprised to see Hellcarver Demon make an entrance. I like that you’ve focused on haste, as it’s usually something that reanimation doesn’t immediately come with, and it should. To that end, here’s a couple possibles:
Mogis’s Marauder - it might be a bit variable in effect, but I’d bet you don’t need a huge amount of potential targets to do some heavy damage.
Bond of Revival - Rise from the Grave but fixed. It’s a little pricey to cast, but the haste fixes the value of the card nicely.
I’m going to echo outcry here and reiterate that Archfiend of Ifnir is just nasty. Cheap to pick up, well costed beater, cycles if needed, wrecks board states effortlessly. Considering what your deck does you could consider this guy a board wipe. Just spitballing here - how well would Rakdos, lord of Riots fit in the deck? If you’re going Rakdos style turbo murder, he could help speed your curve up nicely. You could pair him with Dire Fleet Ravager to hit some awesome levels of cost reduction. Or Malakir Bloodwitch, considering all of your stuff is pseudo vampires. How would Squee, Goblin Nabob work in the deck as a regular reliable discard outlet?I’ve yet to play test this myself, but how well do you think Finale of Eternity fits here? Burnt Offering helps you decathlon cast it, and as long as you’ve got a full grip to discard for haste it could be a devastatingly strong finisher. Certainly seems stronger than Twilight’s Call, which has always seemed too bilateral to me.
From a non card suggestion perspective this deck looks like it’d be a blast to play whether you win or lose.
Quote from 3drinks »Okay, I'm a little shaky on the archetype and commander, so let me see what we've got going on here.
My first thought is why is there a lack of madness cards? You're discarding anyway so adding some for that extra effect, like, say, Reckless Wurm or Fiery Temper. I also don't understand the lack of removal, like you're asking for a blowout. Specifically, Firestorm is on-function with your deck and is certainly better than Conflagrate in most situations.
I don't "get" Hellcarver Demon, and I haven't since ROE. I know what he does, and I can read it, I just can't decipher why you'd run this over almost anything else. Maybe I'm too dense. :/
I think your reanimation suite is a bit suspect. Animate Dead? Necromancy? Reanimate? I know you're discarding, but since you're reanimating so heavily, I'd imagine you'd make terrific use of a Buried Alive and Entomb. The five drop 3/3 that does one-third of a buried alive reads as it'd be especially on-point.
I think your threat suite, while I of all people appreciate nostalgia, it reads like a greatest hits of 2012. Thunderblust? Hateflayer? Surely you'd rather reanimate Pathrazer of Ulamog and It That Betrays no? Bane of Bala Ged surely. Wurmcoil Engine would be a beating and a half.
I think your manabase could use a lot of work, even not looking to a fetch-dual-shock manabase. But I'm confident you know this and I'll leave it at that.
Zombie Infestation and Putrid Imp are surely better discard outlets than most of what you have. I'm assuming you've already considered Anvil of Bogardan? Jalum Tome is a wonderful card I discovered in WB Kaalia when I determined I couldn't reasonable use Necropotence. It's pretty efficient, cheap to activate, and colourless. Similarly, Smuggler's Copter though I'd value Jalum Tome over the Looter Scooter for this particular deck.
Quote from materpillar »I'm just glancing over my Shirei, Shizo's Caretaker which has similar themes happening.
Volcano Hellion is a really cool card. Is it just a reoccurring removal spell for this deck or is there some other synergy I'm missing? If so, I've been impressed with Patron of the Vein in my other decks. It might be better for you especially with Olivia turning everyone into vampires.
I'm rather fond of Balthor the Defiled as a mass reanimation spell.
Wouldn't Grim Haruspex and Midnight Reaper be better than Phyrexian Rager? In a similar vein Harvester of Souls is a beefy version that triggers off everyone.
Soldevi Adnate is an exceptional ramp creature, especially with Olivia giving him haste. It's basically Burnt Offering on a creature.
Also if you like Sire of Insanity, Mindslicer is a cheaper 1-shot of the same effect.
Quote from GloriousGoose »I admire its purity.
Necropotence is an odd omission, but speaking as someone who plays Erebos I can almost understand why. I spend a lot of my life and mana activating Erebos to dig into my deck, and there are times when I topdeck Necro and it's dead because I'm so low on life. However, there are also times when I'm behind and it catapults me back into the game. Same with Ad Nauseam. They're two cards I'd rather have and not need than need and not have.
Quote from bobthefunnyYup. It doesn't change zones. It simply holds a sign up saying "I'm not here!" if anything comes looking for it.
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Quote from hyalopterouslemur »First, if you don't want Erebos vulnerable to toughness-lowering effects, most forced-sac effects, and exile effects, Necro takes your devotion up to 4.
Secondly, it's slightly redundant. Only slightly, since it's obviously much more efficient in terms of mana, but the tempo loss can kill. Obviously having two options is good, but having Necro means you can't draw cards normally. Which is not normally a big deal, this isn't something where it's dealbreaking like Symbiotic Deployment (Dear Symbiotic Deployment, you are neither Necro nor Azusa, please stop pretending.), but again, you're not gaining nearly as much from Necro than you are normally.
Quote from GloriousGoose »[I agree that Necro isn't nearly as good here as it is in, say, Zur or black Sidisi or even Chainer, but the effect is too powerful to ignore. While not to the same degree, it's sort of like saying you shouldn't run Counterspell just because you're running Mana Drain. You want both.