Can you Exsanguinate for 37 off of the top assuming it is the top card when the Citadel hits?
I'm assuming X spells won't really work, as they can only be cast as their converted mana cost, which would be BB and X would be zero for Exsanguinate. I assume that's how it works, otherwise reminds me of.. Channel + Fireball hehe
You are assuming wrong. Bolas's citadel simply lets you cast spells form the top of your library, it does not give the spells an alternative cost to its mana cost like omniscience etc. does. It simply change what you pay for the spell when the spell is "locked in".
I'm not sure what you mean by the spells only being able to be cast as their converted mana cost. The mana cost of exsanguinate changes and while on the stack the mana cost is the "base cost" plus the value for x.
So basically yes, yuo can cast exsanguinate for a lot.
This official Magic Rules person says that X=0 for X spells..
Sorry for the disinformationand thanksfor the correction. It's a weirdly worded alternate cost since it seems that it lets you cast the spell as usual but then after costs are locked in exchanges the mana you pay for it with life.
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Card advantage is not the same thing as card draw. Something for 2B cannot be strictly worse than something for BBB or 3BB. If you're taking out Swords to Plowshares for Plummet, you're a fool. Stop doing these things!
I've put it in my Daxos the Returned, which is a pretty grindy build, but Bolas Rock single-handedly kicks the thing into levels of speed and performance it has never seen before. Things that I run that help smooth out the experience, as one would expect, are various shuffle effects, be they fetches, tutors or whatever, and your standard topdeck editors. You know you're a ridiculous card when Necropotence plays second fiddle to you and Sensei's Divining Top doing sorcery speed Yawgmoth's Bargain is gravy. Topdeck tutors are pretty good too. Massive lifegain is pretty useful, I handle mine via Vault of the Archangel and True Conviction, but the whole Aetherflux Reservoir route is solid if the rest of your deck supports it. I honestly don't think that you need to run any dedicated combo pieces that are otherwise largely dead (e.g. Haunted Crossroads), the very fact that this can make a slow as molasses deck effectively win the game on turn five should serve as enough of a testament to how borked this is if placed in a well-oiled, high-end shuffling/topdeck editing machine.
Sorry for the disinformationand thanksfor the correction. It's a weirdly worded alternate cost since it seems that it lets you cast the spell as usual but then after costs are locked in exchanges the mana you pay for it with life.
Nothing about the templating suggests an alternate cost. I'm so tired of Eli making rulings supported only by Eli Says or Eli Thinks It's Like This and not the card text or CR, see the debacle with Mairsil and Quicksilver Elemental.
I mean for crying out loud, he then almost immediately discusses an interaction with split cards that suggests the exact opposite.
I plan on playing it in my Karador deck which basically consists of token makers and ways to gain life/draw cards off of those tokens. I reckon the card will be strong there without an obvious way to 'combo off' - although granted the curve of the deck combined with life gain can potentially still end up with a turn where I play a third of my deck, my life total doesn't noticeably change, and have a pretty ridiclous Overrun-able board if should I get my next turn - or kill people with Blood Artist effects should someone wrath.
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I'm putting this (eventually) in my Zurgo Helmsmasher deck. The deck is built around cards like arcbond and chandra's ignition and using them on creatures that have deathtouch/lifelink.
The idea of the deck is to have huge life swings, and this will fit perfectly.
isn't it more like an artifact version of ad nauseum?
I'm brewing with it, but am finding it hard to manipulate the top of the library. is black+white the best way through this, you think? I figured blue was good, since you also have the likes of whir of invention, transmute artifact, reshape to directly 'cheat' it into play.
Card was dumb busted in the two decks I've played with it so far. (aminatou and oloro) It could get banned once people start to really use it. So powerful.
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Sorry for the disinformationand thanksfor the correction. It's a weirdly worded alternate cost since it seems that it lets you cast the spell as usual but then after costs are locked in exchanges the mana you pay for it with life.
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Nothing about the templating suggests an alternate cost. I'm so tired of Eli making rulings supported only by Eli Says or Eli Thinks It's Like This and not the card text or CR, see the debacle with Mairsil and Quicksilver Elemental.
I mean for crying out loud, he then almost immediately discusses an interaction with split cards that suggests the exact opposite.
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The idea of the deck is to have huge life swings, and this will fit perfectly.
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isn't it more like an artifact version of ad nauseum?
I'm brewing with it, but am finding it hard to manipulate the top of the library. is black+white the best way through this, you think? I figured blue was good, since you also have the likes of whir of invention, transmute artifact, reshape to directly 'cheat' it into play.
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Look forward to seeing how it performs there.