Trinisphere
So what are people's thoughts on Trinisphere in EDH? Specifically regarding its use outside of stax/LD strategies as its merits in those strategies is fairly obvious..
I just added one to my Rakdos, the Showstopper deck since the deck has a hefty curve and players at my local store love their 1 and 2 CMC value spells.
I've only gotten it out in one game so far, and not early in the game, but it still put in work mostly by being forgotten until it could hose a few 3+ spell turns. Notably, the Muldrotha player wasn't able to recur their Spore Frog, which allowed me to swing in for a lethal attack on my next turn.
I haven't personally found a place for it yet, but I can see it pulling weight alongside Voltaic Key/Clock of Omens shenanigans. Or just generally if you run into a whole ton of permission/counter play.
I also like that it turns the idea of a curve on it's head; if you can't lower your curve, raise everyone else's. Pretty neat.
Hmm, Trinisphere is a meta call i guess.
It could single-handedly kill 6/13 of my decks (Edric, Spymaster of Trest, Teshar, Ancestor's Apostle, Talrand, Sky Summoner, Zada, Hedron Grinder, Ezuri, Renegade Leader & Traxos, Scourge of Kroog), because it would slow them down considerably. On the other hand only 2 of them would struggle to avoid/get rid of it.
The card gets better the stronger your meta is. Storm and certain combos fall apart against it, anything that cheats on mana cost will still have to pay 3... on the other hand battlecruiser decks are more or less untouched by it.
I'd propably avoid it. I like playing low curve decks myself too much and if you're sitting across the wrong deck it's a dead draw, which is the bigger downside.
Probably one of the least obnoxious of the stax, as it effects fair decks a little less, but punishes "storm", those that are looking to cheat and string a lot of spells in one turn, a lot more.
If that makes sense Winter Orb causes games to ground to a halt, where as Trinisphere can be played through by more causal decks, but competitive decks are effected a lot more.
This of course changes a lot more, if you actually start stacking the stax, which then it'll become horrible.
I've never been into stax, so never played it, but it could be a pretty good equalizer between causal to competitive decks.
Trinisphere
So what are people's thoughts on Trinisphere in EDH? Specifically regarding its use outside of stax/LD strategies as its merits in those strategies is fairly obvious..
I just added one to my Rakdos, the Showstopper deck since the deck has a hefty curve and players at my local store love their 1 and 2 CMC value spells.
I've only gotten it out in one game so far, and not early in the game, but it still put in work mostly by being forgotten until it could hose a few 3+ spell turns. Notably, the Muldrotha player wasn't able to recur their Spore Frog, which allowed me to swing in for a lethal attack on my next turn.
So, thoughts? Opinions? Do y'all run it anywhere?
I run it in my competitive deck (which has a sizable stax package), but its value really depends on your metagame and how competitive the decks as a whole are, as competitive decks usually have a lower mana curve. There have been games where it has crippled the table and others where the best thing it did was enable metal craft from a Mox Opal.
Three-ball is the kind of card you would just have to play to see how effective it is. Considering running it in my Xantcha deck as an answer to spellslinger decks, which tend to give me the most trouble.
Trinisphere
So what are people's thoughts on Trinisphere in EDH? Specifically regarding its use outside of stax/LD strategies as its merits in those strategies is fairly obvious..
I just added one to my Rakdos, the Showstopper deck since the deck has a hefty curve and players at my local store love their 1 and 2 CMC value spells.
I've only gotten it out in one game so far, and not early in the game, but it still put in work mostly by being forgotten until it could hose a few 3+ spell turns. Notably, the Muldrotha player wasn't able to recur their Spore Frog, which allowed me to swing in for a lethal attack on my next turn.
So, thoughts? Opinions? Do y'all run it anywhere?
3sphere is a great...tbh, fair...card for the format. Against more casual tables it often won't be more than mid impact. It does a great job at slowing many decks down however, including being a reasonable blockade vs cascade.
I think it's great; low-powered metas don't get affected by them, and higher powered ones can get really hampered. It's a good equaliser many of the times.
Don't use it in EDH at all though; for me, it's mostly a legacy thing.
I like it because it gets better, the more competitive opp's deck is.
Just wondering why it's colorless: I thought the 3-ball was red. (Sorry, little pool joke.)
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So what are people's thoughts on Trinisphere in EDH? Specifically regarding its use outside of stax/LD strategies as its merits in those strategies is fairly obvious..
I just added one to my Rakdos, the Showstopper deck since the deck has a hefty curve and players at my local store love their 1 and 2 CMC value spells.
I've only gotten it out in one game so far, and not early in the game, but it still put in work mostly by being forgotten until it could hose a few 3+ spell turns. Notably, the Muldrotha player wasn't able to recur their Spore Frog, which allowed me to swing in for a lethal attack on my next turn.
So, thoughts? Opinions? Do y'all run it anywhere?
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I also like that it turns the idea of a curve on it's head; if you can't lower your curve, raise everyone else's. Pretty neat.
It could single-handedly kill 6/13 of my decks (Edric, Spymaster of Trest, Teshar, Ancestor's Apostle, Talrand, Sky Summoner, Zada, Hedron Grinder, Ezuri, Renegade Leader & Traxos, Scourge of Kroog), because it would slow them down considerably. On the other hand only 2 of them would struggle to avoid/get rid of it.
The card gets better the stronger your meta is. Storm and certain combos fall apart against it, anything that cheats on mana cost will still have to pay 3... on the other hand battlecruiser decks are more or less untouched by it.
I'd propably avoid it. I like playing low curve decks myself too much and if you're sitting across the wrong deck it's a dead draw, which is the bigger downside.
If that makes sense Winter Orb causes games to ground to a halt, where as Trinisphere can be played through by more causal decks, but competitive decks are effected a lot more.
This of course changes a lot more, if you actually start stacking the stax, which then it'll become horrible.
I've never been into stax, so never played it, but it could be a pretty good equalizer between causal to competitive decks.
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I run it in my competitive deck (which has a sizable stax package), but its value really depends on your metagame and how competitive the decks as a whole are, as competitive decks usually have a lower mana curve. There have been games where it has crippled the table and others where the best thing it did was enable metal craft from a Mox Opal.
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3sphere is a great...tbh, fair...card for the format. Against more casual tables it often won't be more than mid impact. It does a great job at slowing many decks down however, including being a reasonable blockade vs cascade.
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Don't use it in EDH at all though; for me, it's mostly a legacy thing.
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Or untapping shenanigans.
I like it because it gets better, the more competitive opp's deck is.
Just wondering why it's colorless: I thought the 3-ball was red. (Sorry, little pool joke.)
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