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All of that said and bringing it back to the original topic, I still have trouble seeing Stoneforge in a commander precon. There's enough speculation that it's going to see a modern unban, it sees enough legacy play, and it's a popular enough casual card that any deck including it ends up being the in demand one unless the other decks have correspondingly high profile reprints. As much as WotC claims they don't follow secondary market pricing, they're very careful with how much value they put into precon products.
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Quote from NZB2323 »How about expensive cards that help out the weakest color combination in Boros?
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Quote from Melkor »I just think with previous buyouts and hoarding, it was Commander exclusives only in one deck. With a decent print run and a couple Zendikar fetches (and shocks or tango lands or something else chesp) in each one, there isn't a clear buyout target. It's not a group of 3-4 decks and people only want one. I think it would benefit people. Commander players who have them can recoup most of the deck value from Modern players and just keep what they want from it, and it's not a product that will be hoarded long term, as long as it makes sense, Modern players might buy them for the fetches and give Commander players really good deals on the rest. I know that when TNN came out, local Legacy players ended up basically subsidizing a good portion of the cost.
Of course this all depends on a proper print run. Just a handful per LGS doesn't help anyone, and not just in this scenario.
The newest Tolarian Community College podcast had an interview with Gavin Verhey. He confirmed that we are not going to be seeing fetches in any Commander sets anytime soon, but said that a) Wizards has heard the complaints about the low value of reprints in C18 and will be improving the value of the reprints moving forward, and b) with the demise of the Masters sets, we will probably be seeing more in-demand staples for commander, modern and other formats in Commander sets, as well as things like future Battlebond and Conspiracy sets. Here's hoping these changes kick in with C19.
Not going to happen. When we go to a new plane eventually, and then probably not a norse inspired one s that is on top of everybody's want list so,it will be a succes anyway, that is business risk for WotC because players might not like the set. All they have to is print fetches or some other very craved land cycle in it and it will sell like hot cupcakes regardless of the rest of the set. They won't give away such an "insurance policy" in a set that they know will sell well anyway.
Quote from toctheyounger77 »I would argue that Rhystic Study is very likely the only 'iconic' card in Prophecy.
Quote from DirkGently »All the commanders and bab promos that have been only been printed in foil.
I DON'T LIKE FOIL, WOTC.
I think the Avatar cycle, especially Avatar of Woe, counts as iconic. Maybe Foil and the legendary Spellshapers.
Quote from toctheyounger77 »Tolaria West is up over $15 NZD now. What the hell. It's great, but there's no reason it should be that pricey.
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Agree with this. As nice as it would be, fetches are not getting such an easy course reprint. Here's why:
- They pretty much chew up the entire value of a precon in a single card, so you could more or less guarantee the rest of the box would be dross - there's no way WOTC go above monetary parity unless they can help it in precons. Sure there are outliers like Teferi's Protection, but they KNOW the value of fetches prior to printing, and that value isn't going to drop anytime soon.
- They're chase cards not only for commander but other formats as well - the last thing they want is modern players scooping up precons in lieu of EDH players getting access to them. Sure they want the sales, but they also don't want to deal with the fallout of EDH players complaining they're not getting access to precons for a format that modern players aren't interested in.
I'd suggest that what Ertai has mentioned is likely to be the case; we'll see them return, but not until we're seeing a more financially risky set come up; a new plane, new story arc, mechanics WOTC is uncertain of; something they need an insurance policy for.
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