hey all im running a mill deck and i was thinking doing a phenax god of deception. im thinking a zombie horror mill style and was thinking adding planar void into the mill deck. i was hopen for some cards that help cast cards in exile to work with me milling and exileing there stuff. maybe creatures that get a +1/+1 for each exile creature or card. something to work with milling exileing and i have undead alchemist so im token generater aswell.
Blight Herder? You can look up the "processor" subtype on gatherer to find other similar cards. That's all I can think of.
Cards like Nightveil Specter only allow you to cast cards exiled by the card in question, not exiled by something like Planar Void.
Most cards in blue black that do cast from exile will usually only work with cards exiled under the card in question. Processors, as mentioned above, will work, but unfortunately, the options are pretty limited if you want to protect your own graveyard.
In point of fact, there are almost no cards at all that work with exiled cards as a general category rather than the specific cards they themselves exile.
In point of fact, there are almost no cards at all that work with exiled cards as a general category rather than the specific cards they themselves exile.
The sanctity of exile as a zone requires it to not be Graveyard 2.0.
It's weird because exile has three different roles in the game, first as a temporary storage for cards (like rebound or Necropotence), secondly as a place for imprinted cards (and "imprint" including things like haunt), and thirdly as a permanent home for things "completely destroyed".
Even something like Eldrazi processors, which bring things back from exile for your opponents (and thus you can't control what comes back for you and when), was poorly received. That's been an issue ever since Pull from Eternity was printed.
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In point of fact, there are almost no cards at all that work with exiled cards as a general category rather than the specific cards they themselves exile.
The sanctity of exile as a zone requires it to not be Graveyard 2.0.
It's weird because exile has three different roles in the game, first as a temporary storage for cards (like rebound or Necropotence), secondly as a place for imprinted cards (and "imprint" including things like haunt), and thirdly as a permanent home for things "completely destroyed".
Even something like Eldrazi processors, which bring things back from exile for your opponents (and thus you can't control what comes back for you and when), was poorly received. That's been an issue ever since Pull from Eternity was printed.
I strongly agree. As much as I like the card Eternal Scourge, I think this horrible game mechanics.
I do not think exile should be graveyard 2.0. It really makes no sense to me that you can serum powder and then cast misthollow griffin or you can imprint then cast misthollow griffin or your opponent Ashiok's your misthollow griffin then you can cast. Exile should really be used more for the card's specific effect.
Bane Alley Broker is the only one I can think of. Maybe Mnemonic Betrayal? Oh. Mirror of Fate could be the tech you're looking for, but if you're shenaniganning with it things are gonna get real janky. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
Cards like Nightveil Specter only allow you to cast cards exiled by the card in question, not exiled by something like Planar Void.
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The sanctity of exile as a zone requires it to not be Graveyard 2.0.
It's weird because exile has three different roles in the game, first as a temporary storage for cards (like rebound or Necropotence), secondly as a place for imprinted cards (and "imprint" including things like haunt), and thirdly as a permanent home for things "completely destroyed".
Even something like Eldrazi processors, which bring things back from exile for your opponents (and thus you can't control what comes back for you and when), was poorly received. That's been an issue ever since Pull from Eternity was printed.
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I strongly agree. As much as I like the card Eternal Scourge, I think this horrible game mechanics.
I do not think exile should be graveyard 2.0. It really makes no sense to me that you can serum powder and then cast misthollow griffin or you can imprint then cast misthollow griffin or your opponent Ashiok's your misthollow griffin then you can cast. Exile should really be used more for the card's specific effect.
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That makes sense.
That being said, there's options. Void Maw is a thing. Leyline of the Void too. Stitcher Geralf is on theme for you.
There's a couple of creatures you can play from exile, too - Torrent Elemental, Eternal Scourge, Misthollow Griffin. Doesn't sound like any of those last options really do what you want them to, though.
To be perfectly honest, though, if I were you I'd keep it simple and run some exile spells and grave hate to combat this. It's cheap and plentiful. Blessed Reincarnation, Dark Impostor, Duplicant, Hour of Glory, Infernal Reckoning, Karn Liberated, King Macar, the Gold-Cursed (he could be great in a Phenax build),Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger, Vraska's Contempt. Plenty of these would do fine to keep your plans on track.