AJ. Man. This group isn't going to work out for you. That's the harsh reality that sometimes we just have to accept at the end of the day. You won't have fun forcing your way, nor they when you inevitably bring the counter deck to the house rules they've set (stax-ramp, afaik).
I know that's not what you want to hear, but you know this is not a winning battle. You have to know this.
AJ. Man. This group isn't going to work out for you. That's the harsh reality that sometimes we just have to accept at the end of the day. You won't have fun forcing your way, nor they when you inevitably bring the counter deck to the house rules they've set (stax-ramp, afaik).
I know that's not what you want to hear, but you know this is not a winning battle. You have to know this.
Why do you know me so well? after all these years lol.
Before this group, I would play at my friends store. Being able to close up after we were done (the trust factor), allowed me to get in more games. I was only playing magic Thursday Nights for up to 4 hours/week.
Found 2 of them at work and the fact they play weekends really helped. As you have read, I was mainly going with the rules (as I entered) and as they changed (ie even though silver bordered cards were legal, they were banned asap).
But when you are right, you are right. There is no alternative unless I go to the next local store that also does EDH on Thursdays (but it is hit-or-miss).
Perhaps I should make a Kaalia deck and show how bad a cheated in Master of Cruelties can be lol.
Aggro Vamps and Edric have been pulling me the Wins. Along with an untouched Sigarda HoH enhantress deck. Purphorous gets hated out early and if I won a few games, no matter what commander I or others are playing, threat assessment goes to whomever won the most games so far lol
It annoys me to no end when people lump Blood Moon and Ruination in with other MLD. Heaven forbid there should be any sort of cost or drawback to your $2000 fetches and alpha dual-land mana base...[/rant]
Why do you know me so well? after all these years lol.
But when you are right, you are right. There is no alternative unless I go to the next local store that also does EDH on Thursdays (but it is hit-or-miss).
Perhaps I should make a Kaalia deck and show how bad a cheated in Master of Cruelties can be lol.
Aggro Vamps and Edric have been pulling me the Wins. Along with an untouched Sigarda HoH enhantress deck. Purphorous gets hated out early and if I won a few games, no matter what commander I or others are playing, threat assessment goes to whomever won the most games so far lol
Becsuse I've had the same issues finding like minded playgroups. Either the group that everyone is on 4c flash hulk and derevi stax, or the ones that literally try to equip their greatsword on their craw wurm and freak out at even the innocuous Dwarven Miner.
Don't Kaalia this group. I suspect they will be the types to insta ban her for *reasons*. Edgar works. Edric too. Hell if any forms of LD is off limits, go Sliver Overlord or 5c Hermit Druid (do people even still play that? Or is it all just Tazri food chain now?)
Make 'em pay for their mistakes. Do they love their boundless realms? Then start shoving Acidic Soil into every deck.
Personally, I think its far too soon to cast judgement on Magus of the Balance. Lets look historically at all of the different Magus cards. Essentially EVERY magus that imitates a spell has been nowhere near as impactful as the spell that they are imitating.
This new Magus is no different. Actual Balance costs 2 mana and while the Magus also costs two mana, it costs 5 mana to activate its ability and it needs to tap to do that as well. If you are trying to fire that all off in one go that means needing 5WW and needing haste to speed it up (or flashing it in and using it sooner). LOTS of the power of balance comes from its low cost and the fact that it comes from nowhere. Given the high activation cost and the fact that its a slow activate creature, it means that your opponents have a lot more time before it can be activated as well as your own land count probably not being some punishing low count that the original balance spell allows.
Ultimately, this comes back a little to how I HATE local meta rules. I hate them because its incredibly hard to organize a playgroup and vote in such a way that it feels like everyone has a say. I totally understand that the rules committee wants to encourage this but realistically..... its absolutely a nightmare to organize and implement in a way that doesn't make things feel like someone is being some sort of rules tyrant. It's why I have never been a fan of deviating from the actual RC banned list.
My opinion is you need to tell this guy to back off and see the card tested at least. I am in agreement with the RC that Balance has no place in being played in commander but I am not convinced that any of the power level of the card translates to the new magus (without at least first seeing it myself). As a super random side note.... why is Blood Moon off limits in your meta? I could understand things like Ruination but Blood Moon????
Magi with a t ability (and all these spell magi fit that) suffer from one problem: They're creatures, and as such (without help) need to wait a whole turn, and as creatures, they...die to removal. Yeah, I hate saying that, but in a format where it's common for multiple wraths to be played, "dies to removal" is a valid criticism.
I also take issue with the idea that land destruction is inherently bad. Iflandsproducemorethanonemana, those lands must be allowed blow up. It must be played properly, no "I'm losing, let's Armageddon!" (Playing Jokulhaups or Cataclysm when you're losing is a good play, though. But Armageddon and its Chinese cousin? Not so viable.)
Blood Moon (and Back to Basics, for that matter) is one I really can't find objectionable because, frankly, you're doing it to yourself. My solution has always been to make half my lands nonbasic; if I'm playing white or green, getting one basic forest or plains (or an appropriate other permanent) is just enough to end the eclipse.
And while we're on this topic, seriously, I play Stax a lot, and if I don't get the cards I need, I'm screwed. If I do get the cards I need, but the other players start neutralizing them, I'm still screwed. But you know? It's not Timmy and his angels, wurms, and dragons that win when things don't go well. It's the combo player. Any meta that house-bans Blood Moon can lose to Hermit Druid a hundred times before they realize ya dun güfd.
And of course I'm just chuckling because "fair and balanced" never was either.
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Blood Moon (and Back to Basics, for that matter) is one I really can't find objectionable because, frankly, you're doing it to yourself. My solution has always been to make half my lands nonbasic; if I'm playing white or green, getting one basic forest or plains (or an appropriate other permanent) is just enough to end the eclipse.
I find a way to fit 6 or 7 basics in even my 3c decks to play around Moons (and Tainted Pact, naitch). If I can do that in 3c no green and not have mana issues...then anyone can, especially with green.
Build a 5 color Lands deck. There’s a thread for it I can link you to if you’d like. Be sure to exclude anything that would save you from LD. Abuse their system and make them understand why blanket rules do not work and stipulations are important.
I don’t know your financial situation, but if you can afford the normal for a gold bordered card, in response to them telling you not to use the card, pull up your phone and buy the normal right in front of them (or fake buy it) and tell them that that silly rule is only hurting them since you can easily get what you need.
Solve problems with spite. Turn the rules against the players.
Before I start replying to everyone, I want to say thank you all for your comments. It is nice to come here with stories, issues, questions, and celebrations.
It annoys me to no end when people lump Blood Moon and Ruination in with other MLD. Heaven forbid there should be any sort of cost or drawback to your $2000 fetches and alpha dual-land mana base...[/rant]
That was half of my debate with them: how can you group land destruction with land altering effects. The decision was made and most did not want to discuss it again (to them it was a dead horse that should be left be).
Having the land altering ban “allows people to play bounces and gates.” I didn’t probe into what that truly meant...
I believe I am the only one with at least 1 ABU land. Their decks do have expensive cards (invocations, promos, etc), but for lands, nothing really special beyond shocks.
OH I almost forgot. 2 are so against utility lands, that out of he 5-7 decks, they don’t have reliquary tower or equally powerful lands. Others don’t run a single basic in 3-4 colors.
You'd need an anthem effect for creatures to keep your lands alive.....
Urborg ToY is fine as people can still tap for their colors. enchanted Evening is not allowed due to it changing lands. The rest are perfect acceptable.
All of the above are in Jund, too, so you can pretend to be a Lord Windgrace land matters deck or something
In my Purphoros, God of the Forge deck, I run pretty much all of those for red (ankh, PoP, Zo-Zu) and what was shown below: manabarbs, war’s toll, mana web.
Why do you know me so well? after all these years lol.
But when you are right, you are right. There is no alternative unless I go to the next local store that also does EDH on Thursdays (but it is hit-or-miss).
Perhaps I should make a Kaalia deck and show how bad a cheated in Master of Cruelties can be lol.
Aggro Vamps and Edric have been pulling me the Wins. Along with an untouched Sigarda HoH enhantress deck. Purphorous gets hated out early and if I won a few games, no matter what commander I or others are playing, threat assessment goes to whomever won the most games so far lol
Becsuse I've had the same issues finding like minded playgroups. Either the group that everyone is on 4c flash hulk and derevi stax, or the ones that literally try to equip their greatsword on their craw wurm and freak out at even the innocuous Dwarven Miner.
Don't Kaalia this group. I suspect they will be the types to insta ban her for *reasons*. Edgar works. Edric too. Hell if any forms of LD is off limits, go Sliver Overlord or 5c Hermit Druid (do people even still play that? Or is it all just Tazri food chain now?)
Make 'em pay for their mistakes. Do they love their boundless realms? Then start shoving Acidic Soil into every deck.
No one is playing stax, and the one person who did, took it a part asap after one game. No one is doing broken things other than the combo guy (Ghave, Mizzix, Animar).
I won’t Kaalia. Just joking around. They won’t ban her because the other combo decks, even though people do not like it and target it, won’t ban it. Those combos would certainly work. I built kess storm and 50/50 works unless I get hated on early because I’m getting value.
Boundless Realms and other ramp cards are seen in all of the G(x) decks. Thanks for that idea.
Personally, I think its far too soon to cast judgement on Magus of the Balance. Lets look historically at all of the different Magus cards. Essentially EVERY magus that imitates a spell has been nowhere near as impactful as the spell that they are imitating.
This new Magus is no different. Actual Balance costs 2 mana and while the Magus also costs two mana, it costs 5 mana to activate its ability and it needs to tap to do that as well. If you are trying to fire that all off in one go that means needing 5WW and needing haste to speed it up (or flashing it in and using it sooner). LOTS of the power of balance comes from its low cost and the fact that it comes from nowhere. Given the high activation cost and the fact that its a slow activate creature, it means that your opponents have a lot more time before it can be activated as well as your own land count probably not being some punishing low count that the original balance spell allows.
Ultimately, this comes back a little to how I HATE local meta rules. I hate them because its incredibly hard to organize a playgroup and vote in such a way that it feels like everyone has a say. I totally understand that the rules committee wants to encourage this but realistically..... its absolutely a nightmare to organize and implement in a way that doesn't make things feel like someone is being some sort of rules tyrant. It's why I have never been a fan of deviating from the actual RC banned list.
My opinion is you need to tell this guy to back off and see the card tested at least. I am in agreement with the RC that Balance has no place in being played in commander but I am not convinced that any of the power level of the card translates to the new magus (without at least first seeing it myself). As a super random side note.... why is Blood Moon off limits in your meta? I could understand things like Ruination but Blood Moon????
Magi with a t ability (and all these spell magi fit that) suffer from one problem: They're creatures, and as such (without help) need to wait a whole turn, and as creatures, they...die to removal. Yeah, I hate saying that, but in a format where it's common for multiple wraths to be played, "dies to removal" is a valid criticism.
I also take issue with the idea that land destruction is inherently bad. Iflandsproducemorethanonemana, those lands must be allowed blow up. It must be played properly, no "I'm losing, let's Armageddon!" (Playing Jokulhaups or Cataclysm when you're losing is a good play, though. But Armageddon and its Chinese cousin? Not so viable.)
Blood Moon (and Back to Basics, for that matter) is one I really can't find objectionable because, frankly, you're doing it to yourself. My solution has always been to make half my lands nonbasic; if I'm playing white or green, getting one basic forest or plains (or an appropriate other permanent) is just enough to end the eclipse.
And while we're on this topic, seriously, I play Stax a lot, and if I don't get the cards I need, I'm screwed. If I do get the cards I need, but the other players start neutralizing them, I'm still screwed. But you know? It's not Timmy and his angels, wurms, and dragons that win when things don't go well. It's the combo player. Any meta that house-bans Blood Moon can lose to Hermit Druid a hundred times before they realize ya dun güfd.
And of course I'm just chuckling because "fair and balanced" never was either.
I’ll hit your points separately.
Magi: it being a creature, costing X mana to play and activate, and you need to tap it was not and will not be taken into consideration. It is the fact of what it does and how it goes against the playgroups rules. I know right?
Single target LD is perfectly fine. It took me some time to convince them to allow it. The main kicker was from the latest set and it’s flip lands. Decimate is fine if you are using it on an utility land.
Back to Basics and Stasis are fine. And yes, even in my 3c decks, I run 8-10 basics.
I am building Muldrotha, the Gravetide stax. Almost done.do you mind if I run by you my list? I understand what you mean about pieces as I play Enchantress and Kess.
And yes, there were 3 back-to-back-to-back games where everyone but one person was playing was doing fair plays until the combo player went off. Usually what happens unless myself or someone else is Blue heavy.
Blood Moon (and Back to Basics, for that matter) is one I really can't find objectionable because, frankly, you're doing it to yourself. My solution has always been to make half my lands nonbasic; if I'm playing white or green, getting one basic forest or plains (or an appropriate other permanent) is just enough to end the eclipse.
I find a way to fit 6 or 7 basics in even my 3c decks to play around Moons (and Tainted Pact, naitch). If I can do that in 3c no green and not have mana issues...then anyone can, especially with green.
100% agree. I always at least make room for 6+ basic lands. I always emphasis, if the occasion arises, what is good and bad deck contruction. Can’t tell you how often there is a lack of single target/mass removal there is. Can’t remember what was said exactly, but it was somewhat around that people should be able to play their play style and not build around the meta (meta meaning to build to counter other people’s decks).
You could try to play political hugs, like Phelddagrif, because then you can turn 2 tempting wurm. Just be supportive and watch them kill each other. It can speed up games, if you play it right and that is you are wanting to play hugs.
But I would have to agree, this group does not seem to be for you. I have not had issues with playgroups for banning of cards, since the playgroups I were in, just followed the normal banning for EDH. Plus, if this stresses you out a little bit, I would recommend to not be in the playgroup.
Build a 5 color Lands deck. There’s a thread for it I can link you to if you’d like. Be sure to exclude anything that would save you from LD. Abuse their system and make them understand why blanket rules do not work and stipulations are important.
I don’t know your financial situation, but if you can afford the normal for a gold bordered card, in response to them telling you not to use the card, pull up your phone and buy the normal right in front of them (or fake buy it) and tell them that that silly rule is only hurting them since you can easily get what you need.
Solve problems with spite. Turn the rules against the players.
It’s funny you say that...I was thinking about a lands deck. Yes, please PM me the link. Much appreciated.
I’m fine with money (even with buying a new home Friday and having a 1 year old), I am still able to set a small amount aside over time. I have been HEAVILY trading on Pucatrade and been getting pretty entire decks. I recently was able to do an international trade (Italy) for an Italian Invoke Prejudice and Italian In the Eye of Chaos. AND after 3 months of gathering points, I was finally able to get The Tabernacle at Pendergrass Vale.
Yes, I have shown in the Facebook chat that I picked up a cheap Survival of the Fittest via an EBay snipe. Funny thing is they din’t Like foreign cards.....I still have them and play with them and don’t care for the comments.
As some people mentioned earlier, is it worth it to butt heads and conflict. With that being said, I had to build a combo to fight 2 other combo decks. And I feel if I bring stax in, it might bump things up another level. But yes, a counter deck seems to be a solution.
Lol. It feels like just play crazy to have fun within my own rules. I do like this idea, group hug slug fest, and chaos. Thoughts on finishing Muldrotha stax?
To the OP. There are no right awnsers here. In the end there are you as an activaty who play, and it is up to you what you want to do.
Persobally I think combo decks, or decks with comboes are dull. What ever you have been doing for the last 20/60 mins has nothing to say once somebody comboes up.
Objectivly the strongest thing you can do in commander is comboing. I would try to solve the problem outside of the game. Simuntaniusly I would build a combo deck in protest to show how stupid their rules are. I would recomend mizziks, it is cheap and easy to combo on a budget.
I also like peoole using proxies (bar mtg tourbaments) as I do not want your echobomic situation to take away from the fun.
I do not understand why magus of the balance is off limits. Balance, it is not. Blood noon if perfectly fine. It is not Ruination. Even Armagedon should be fine, although I personally find it tedius. Your friend just sounds a bit dim. Although talking about what kind of game you want is important.
PS: If you do not like the idea of playing combo decka I woukd recomend playing a stacks kind of deck. The only thing combo decks hate more is Possabilaty Storm, but I asume they ban those as well.
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Build a 5 color Lands deck. There’s a thread for it I can link you to if you’d like. Be sure to exclude anything that would save you from LD. Abuse their system and make them understand why blanket rules do not work and stipulations are important.
I don’t know your financial situation, but if you can afford the normal for a gold bordered card, in response to them telling you not to use the card, pull up your phone and buy the normal right in front of them (or fake buy it) and tell them that that silly rule is only hurting them since you can easily get what you need.
Solve problems with spite. Turn the rules against the players.
This isn’t an amazing suggestion and a fun deck. EDH solemnity lands is amazing.
Another idea is to start asking for votes on equally silly ideas, nothing that blows up enchantments please. My deck needs them. Or maybe just ban blue mana sources in the group? If they don’t get it find another pod to play in.
While hilarious, I can't say I approve of this solution as it just leads to animosity and bitterness. It's something I'd probably do though (i.e. don't do it).
100% agree. I always at least make room for 6+ basic lands. I always emphasis, if the occasion arises, what is good and bad deck contruction. Can’t tell you how often there is a lack of single target/mass removal there is. Can’t remember what was said exactly, but it was somewhat around that people should be able to play their play style and not build around the meta (meta meaning to build to counter other people’s decks).
Play Jund Lands (Windgrace) with Tainted AEther. You're not the one blowing up any lands, you're allowing them to choose if they will sacrifice their own, or not play creatures. Meanwhile you're reaping a one way ticket to #ValueTown all day with Windgrace. Combine with other walkers and go with superfriends as a win con to largely negate the Tainted AEther you're built around.
I know that's not what you want to hear, but you know this is not a winning battle. You have to know this.
Steel Sabotage'ng Orbs of Mellowness since 2011.
Why do you know me so well? after all these years lol.
Before this group, I would play at my friends store. Being able to close up after we were done (the trust factor), allowed me to get in more games. I was only playing magic Thursday Nights for up to 4 hours/week.
Found 2 of them at work and the fact they play weekends really helped. As you have read, I was mainly going with the rules (as I entered) and as they changed (ie even though silver bordered cards were legal, they were banned asap).
But when you are right, you are right. There is no alternative unless I go to the next local store that also does EDH on Thursdays (but it is hit-or-miss).
Perhaps I should make a Kaalia deck and show how bad a cheated in Master of Cruelties can be lol.
Aggro Vamps and Edric have been pulling me the Wins. Along with an untouched Sigarda HoH enhantress deck. Purphorous gets hated out early and if I won a few games, no matter what commander I or others are playing, threat assessment goes to whomever won the most games so far lol
I buy HP and Damaged cards!
Only EDH:
Sigarda, Host of Herons: Enchantress' Enchantments
Jenara, Asura of War: ETB Value Town
Purphoros, God of the Forge: Global Punishment
Xenagos, God of Revels: Ramp, Sneak, & Heavy Hitters
Ghave, Guru of Spores: Dies_to_Doom_Blade's stax list
Edric, Spymaster of Trest: Donald's list
- Rabid Wombat
You'd need an anthem effect for creatures to keep your lands alive.....
- Anathemancer
- Ankh of Mishra
- Burning Earth
- Polluted Bonds
- Price of Progress (put it on an Isochron Scepter!)
- Primal Order
- Trailblazer's Boots
- Tunnel Ignus
- Zo-Zu the Punisher
All of the above are in Jund, too, so you can pretend to be a Lord Windgrace land matters deck or somethingTwo Score, Minus Two or: A Stargate Tail
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Power Surge
Manabarbs
War's Toll or Tectonic Instability
Mana Weband Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth lockdown...mwahaha
Storm Cauldron
Quicksilver Fountain
Becsuse I've had the same issues finding like minded playgroups. Either the group that everyone is on 4c flash hulk and derevi stax, or the ones that literally try to equip their greatsword on their craw wurm and freak out at even the innocuous Dwarven Miner.
Don't Kaalia this group. I suspect they will be the types to insta ban her for *reasons*. Edgar works. Edric too. Hell if any forms of LD is off limits, go Sliver Overlord or 5c Hermit Druid (do people even still play that? Or is it all just Tazri food chain now?)
Make 'em pay for their mistakes. Do they love their boundless realms? Then start shoving Acidic Soil into every deck.
Steel Sabotage'ng Orbs of Mellowness since 2011.
Magi with a t ability (and all these spell magi fit that) suffer from one problem: They're creatures, and as such (without help) need to wait a whole turn, and as creatures, they...die to removal. Yeah, I hate saying that, but in a format where it's common for multiple wraths to be played, "dies to removal" is a valid criticism.
I also take issue with the idea that land destruction is inherently bad. If lands produce more than one mana, those lands must be allowed blow up. It must be played properly, no "I'm losing, let's Armageddon!" (Playing Jokulhaups or Cataclysm when you're losing is a good play, though. But Armageddon and its Chinese cousin? Not so viable.)
Blood Moon (and Back to Basics, for that matter) is one I really can't find objectionable because, frankly, you're doing it to yourself. My solution has always been to make half my lands nonbasic; if I'm playing white or green, getting one basic forest or plains (or an appropriate other permanent) is just enough to end the eclipse.
And while we're on this topic, seriously, I play Stax a lot, and if I don't get the cards I need, I'm screwed. If I do get the cards I need, but the other players start neutralizing them, I'm still screwed. But you know? It's not Timmy and his angels, wurms, and dragons that win when things don't go well. It's the combo player. Any meta that house-bans Blood Moon can lose to Hermit Druid a hundred times before they realize ya dun güfd.
And of course I'm just chuckling because "fair and balanced" never was either.
On phasing:
I find a way to fit 6 or 7 basics in even my 3c decks to play around Moons (and Tainted Pact, naitch). If I can do that in 3c no green and not have mana issues...then anyone can, especially with green.
Steel Sabotage'ng Orbs of Mellowness since 2011.
I don’t know your financial situation, but if you can afford the normal for a gold bordered card, in response to them telling you not to use the card, pull up your phone and buy the normal right in front of them (or fake buy it) and tell them that that silly rule is only hurting them since you can easily get what you need.
Solve problems with spite. Turn the rules against the players.
I buy HP and Damaged cards!
Only EDH:
Sigarda, Host of Herons: Enchantress' Enchantments
Jenara, Asura of War: ETB Value Town
Purphoros, God of the Forge: Global Punishment
Xenagos, God of Revels: Ramp, Sneak, & Heavy Hitters
Ghave, Guru of Spores: Dies_to_Doom_Blade's stax list
Edric, Spymaster of Trest: Donald's list
That was half of my debate with them: how can you group land destruction with land altering effects. The decision was made and most did not want to discuss it again (to them it was a dead horse that should be left be).
Having the land altering ban “allows people to play bounces and gates.” I didn’t probe into what that truly meant...
I believe I am the only one with at least 1 ABU land. Their decks do have expensive cards (invocations, promos, etc), but for lands, nothing really special beyond shocks.
OH I almost forgot. 2 are so against utility lands, that out of he 5-7 decks, they don’t have reliquary tower or equally powerful lands. Others don’t run a single basic in 3-4 colors.
I buy HP and Damaged cards!
Only EDH:
Sigarda, Host of Herons: Enchantress' Enchantments
Jenara, Asura of War: ETB Value Town
Purphoros, God of the Forge: Global Punishment
Xenagos, God of Revels: Ramp, Sneak, & Heavy Hitters
Ghave, Guru of Spores: Dies_to_Doom_Blade's stax list
Edric, Spymaster of Trest: Donald's list
Urborg ToY is fine as people can still tap for their colors. enchanted Evening is not allowed due to it changing lands. The rest are perfect acceptable.
I buy HP and Damaged cards!
Only EDH:
Sigarda, Host of Herons: Enchantress' Enchantments
Jenara, Asura of War: ETB Value Town
Purphoros, God of the Forge: Global Punishment
Xenagos, God of Revels: Ramp, Sneak, & Heavy Hitters
Ghave, Guru of Spores: Dies_to_Doom_Blade's stax list
Edric, Spymaster of Trest: Donald's list
In my Purphoros, God of the Forge deck, I run pretty much all of those for red (ankh, PoP, Zo-Zu) and what was shown below: manabarbs, war’s toll, mana web.
I buy HP and Damaged cards!
Only EDH:
Sigarda, Host of Herons: Enchantress' Enchantments
Jenara, Asura of War: ETB Value Town
Purphoros, God of the Forge: Global Punishment
Xenagos, God of Revels: Ramp, Sneak, & Heavy Hitters
Ghave, Guru of Spores: Dies_to_Doom_Blade's stax list
Edric, Spymaster of Trest: Donald's list
storm cauldron: banned, can’t bounce other people’s lands.
quicksilver fountain: banned, can’t change what lands tap for.
I buy HP and Damaged cards!
Only EDH:
Sigarda, Host of Herons: Enchantress' Enchantments
Jenara, Asura of War: ETB Value Town
Purphoros, God of the Forge: Global Punishment
Xenagos, God of Revels: Ramp, Sneak, & Heavy Hitters
Ghave, Guru of Spores: Dies_to_Doom_Blade's stax list
Edric, Spymaster of Trest: Donald's list
No one is playing stax, and the one person who did, took it a part asap after one game. No one is doing broken things other than the combo guy (Ghave, Mizzix, Animar).
I won’t Kaalia. Just joking around. They won’t ban her because the other combo decks, even though people do not like it and target it, won’t ban it. Those combos would certainly work. I built kess storm and 50/50 works unless I get hated on early because I’m getting value.
Boundless Realms and other ramp cards are seen in all of the G(x) decks. Thanks for that idea.
I buy HP and Damaged cards!
Only EDH:
Sigarda, Host of Herons: Enchantress' Enchantments
Jenara, Asura of War: ETB Value Town
Purphoros, God of the Forge: Global Punishment
Xenagos, God of Revels: Ramp, Sneak, & Heavy Hitters
Ghave, Guru of Spores: Dies_to_Doom_Blade's stax list
Edric, Spymaster of Trest: Donald's list
I’ll hit your points separately.
Magi: it being a creature, costing X mana to play and activate, and you need to tap it was not and will not be taken into consideration. It is the fact of what it does and how it goes against the playgroups rules. I know right?
Single target LD is perfectly fine. It took me some time to convince them to allow it. The main kicker was from the latest set and it’s flip lands. Decimate is fine if you are using it on an utility land.
Back to Basics and Stasis are fine. And yes, even in my 3c decks, I run 8-10 basics.
I am building Muldrotha, the Gravetide stax. Almost done.do you mind if I run by you my list? I understand what you mean about pieces as I play Enchantress and Kess.
And yes, there were 3 back-to-back-to-back games where everyone but one person was playing was doing fair plays until the combo player went off. Usually what happens unless myself or someone else is Blue heavy.
I buy HP and Damaged cards!
Only EDH:
Sigarda, Host of Herons: Enchantress' Enchantments
Jenara, Asura of War: ETB Value Town
Purphoros, God of the Forge: Global Punishment
Xenagos, God of Revels: Ramp, Sneak, & Heavy Hitters
Ghave, Guru of Spores: Dies_to_Doom_Blade's stax list
Edric, Spymaster of Trest: Donald's list
100% agree. I always at least make room for 6+ basic lands. I always emphasis, if the occasion arises, what is good and bad deck contruction. Can’t tell you how often there is a lack of single target/mass removal there is. Can’t remember what was said exactly, but it was somewhat around that people should be able to play their play style and not build around the meta (meta meaning to build to counter other people’s decks).
I buy HP and Damaged cards!
Only EDH:
Sigarda, Host of Herons: Enchantress' Enchantments
Jenara, Asura of War: ETB Value Town
Purphoros, God of the Forge: Global Punishment
Xenagos, God of Revels: Ramp, Sneak, & Heavy Hitters
Ghave, Guru of Spores: Dies_to_Doom_Blade's stax list
Edric, Spymaster of Trest: Donald's list
But I would have to agree, this group does not seem to be for you. I have not had issues with playgroups for banning of cards, since the playgroups I were in, just followed the normal banning for EDH. Plus, if this stresses you out a little bit, I would recommend to not be in the playgroup.
It’s funny you say that...I was thinking about a lands deck. Yes, please PM me the link. Much appreciated.
I’m fine with money (even with buying a new home Friday and having a 1 year old), I am still able to set a small amount aside over time. I have been HEAVILY trading on Pucatrade and been getting pretty entire decks. I recently was able to do an international trade (Italy) for an Italian Invoke Prejudice and Italian In the Eye of Chaos. AND after 3 months of gathering points, I was finally able to get The Tabernacle at Pendergrass Vale.
Yes, I have shown in the Facebook chat that I picked up a cheap Survival of the Fittest via an EBay snipe. Funny thing is they din’t Like foreign cards.....I still have them and play with them and don’t care for the comments.
As some people mentioned earlier, is it worth it to butt heads and conflict. With that being said, I had to build a combo to fight 2 other combo decks. And I feel if I bring stax in, it might bump things up another level. But yes, a counter deck seems to be a solution.
I buy HP and Damaged cards!
Only EDH:
Sigarda, Host of Herons: Enchantress' Enchantments
Jenara, Asura of War: ETB Value Town
Purphoros, God of the Forge: Global Punishment
Xenagos, God of Revels: Ramp, Sneak, & Heavy Hitters
Ghave, Guru of Spores: Dies_to_Doom_Blade's stax list
Edric, Spymaster of Trest: Donald's list
Worry beads
hive mind
eye of the storm
Grip of Chaos
Possibility storm
Confusion in the Ranks
Thieves auction
Chaos Moon (expect a quick banned)
Curse of Echoes
Equipoise
Forced Fruition
In the Eye of Chaos
Planar Chaos
Teferi's Puzzle Box
Omen Machine
Crumbling Sanctuary
cuz screw your plans.....
Lol. It feels like just play crazy to have fun within my own rules. I do like this idea, group hug slug fest, and chaos. Thoughts on finishing Muldrotha stax?
I buy HP and Damaged cards!
Only EDH:
Sigarda, Host of Herons: Enchantress' Enchantments
Jenara, Asura of War: ETB Value Town
Purphoros, God of the Forge: Global Punishment
Xenagos, God of Revels: Ramp, Sneak, & Heavy Hitters
Ghave, Guru of Spores: Dies_to_Doom_Blade's stax list
Edric, Spymaster of Trest: Donald's list
Persobally I think combo decks, or decks with comboes are dull. What ever you have been doing for the last 20/60 mins has nothing to say once somebody comboes up.
Objectivly the strongest thing you can do in commander is comboing. I would try to solve the problem outside of the game. Simuntaniusly I would build a combo deck in protest to show how stupid their rules are. I would recomend mizziks, it is cheap and easy to combo on a budget.
I also like peoole using proxies (bar mtg tourbaments) as I do not want your echobomic situation to take away from the fun.
I do not understand why magus of the balance is off limits. Balance, it is not. Blood noon if perfectly fine. It is not Ruination. Even Armagedon should be fine, although I personally find it tedius. Your friend just sounds a bit dim. Although talking about what kind of game you want is important.
PS: If you do not like the idea of playing combo decka I woukd recomend playing a stacks kind of deck. The only thing combo decks hate more is Possabilaty Storm, but I asume they ban those as well.
This isn’t an amazing suggestion and a fun deck. EDH solemnity lands is amazing.
Another idea is to start asking for votes on equally silly ideas, nothing that blows up enchantments please. My deck needs them. Or maybe just ban blue mana sources in the group? If they don’t get it find another pod to play in.
While hilarious, I can't say I approve of this solution as it just leads to animosity and bitterness. It's something I'd probably do though (i.e. don't do it).
Play Jund Lands (Windgrace) with Tainted AEther. You're not the one blowing up any lands, you're allowing them to choose if they will sacrifice their own, or not play creatures. Meanwhile you're reaping a one way ticket to #ValueTown all day with Windgrace. Combine with other walkers and go with superfriends as a win con to largely negate the Tainted AEther you're built around.
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