I'm trying to brew Selvala, Explorer Returned because Parley is fairly unique and she seems like a great little all-in-one package - card draw, ramp, and life gain - plus my playgroup is consistently 4-5 players, so Parley should do some work, but I'm having trouble narrowing down win conditions that aren't generic Selesnya tokens or elfball. I already have WRG and WU decks that are centered around tokens, so I don't feel like building a third token pooper. Everyone in my main playgroup has an elfball deck through either Ezuri or Frayalise, and I find that pretty boring and not very unique.
My original idea was to get Selvala to untap multiple times in a turn so I can use Parley a few times each turn and do fun crazy things with all those additional cards and mana. I've searched through hundreds of cards on scryfall and there's not a whole lot of abusable untap-enablers outside of the usual suspects in Sword of the Paruns, Staff of Domination, Thousand-Year Elixir, and Umbral Mantle. I dig using those cards, but to have them really go off (i.e. draw my deck) it requires infinite mana through the elfball route in Priest of Titania and a few of those elves with the same ability.
So, I dunno where to go from here. I've always wanted to make Approach of the Second Sun a thing in an EDH deck, and Parley helps dig it back up quicker, but also thinking Hurricane and/or Squall Line since I should have a healthy life total. I was thinking of adding some pillowfort (Sandwurm Convergence always appealed to me), but I still feel like whatever strategy I go with will need a lot of creatures since my meta is creature heavy and the player without creatures or with just a couple little value ones gets attacked a lot early on often in games. Maybe ramp into wurms, angels, and other big scary things with the assistance of Parley mana?
Is there some fun effective ways to produce a ton of mana to untap Selvala a bunch with Umbral Mantle and friends that doesn't require elves or Basalt Monolith? Are there other ways to untap her multiple times in these colors? What seem like some fun win conditions?
I had thought about Paradox Engine, for sure, as an untap enabler. It seems great to get an extra couple Parley activations through it, and can be a win condition if I include enough non-land mana makers like rocks and mana dorks to cast everything in my deck. Seems fun actually, but I dunno if it could be consistent as it may be pretty fragile to really pull it off in win-con fashion. It seems like it could more consistently act as a supporting untap enabler for Selvala for a couple times each turn, which is still powerful.
With all that card draw for everyone it could be good to have a way to punish that, sadly most of those effects are in black, but there are some other options for that. Storm Seeker, Viseling, Iron Maiden, there is some more artifacts that do same thing but I don't think you want to go that route if you want to stay in selesnya.
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My original idea was to get Selvala to untap multiple times in a turn so I can use Parley a few times each turn and do fun crazy things with all those additional cards and mana. I've searched through hundreds of cards on scryfall and there's not a whole lot of abusable untap-enablers outside of the usual suspects in Sword of the Paruns, Staff of Domination, Thousand-Year Elixir, and Umbral Mantle. I dig using those cards, but to have them really go off (i.e. draw my deck) it requires infinite mana through the elfball route in Priest of Titania and a few of those elves with the same ability.
So, I dunno where to go from here. I've always wanted to make Approach of the Second Sun a thing in an EDH deck, and Parley helps dig it back up quicker, but also thinking Hurricane and/or Squall Line since I should have a healthy life total. I was thinking of adding some pillowfort (Sandwurm Convergence always appealed to me), but I still feel like whatever strategy I go with will need a lot of creatures since my meta is creature heavy and the player without creatures or with just a couple little value ones gets attacked a lot early on often in games. Maybe ramp into wurms, angels, and other big scary things with the assistance of Parley mana?
Is there some fun effective ways to produce a ton of mana to untap Selvala a bunch with Umbral Mantle and friends that doesn't require elves or Basalt Monolith? Are there other ways to untap her multiple times in these colors? What seem like some fun win conditions?
Thanks for all the input!
Current EDH
UThassa, God of the Sea devotion control
WRGTana, the Bloodsower & Sidar Kondo of Jamuraa partners weenie tokens
UUnesh, Criosphinx Sovereign Sphinx tribal
WUTaigam, Ojutai Master tokens on the rebound spellslinger
GRhonas the Indomitable green creature beats
UGRashmi, Eternities Crafter ETB tribal
Retired EDH
WURGKynaios and Tiro of Meletis group hug
URThe Locust God draw swarm
UTalrand, Sky Summoner funsies blue spells
WBObzedat, Ghost Council life gain/drain
Benefactor’s Draught
Quest for Renewal
What is your meta’s take on LD? You could geddon still be okay with her as an engine.
(U/B)(U/B)(U/B) JUMP IN THE LINE, ROCK YOUR BODY IN TIME
(R/W)(R/W)(R/W) RISING FROM THE NEON GLOOM, SHINING LIKE A CRAZY MOON
(U/R)(R/G)(G/U) STEALIN' WHEN I SHOULD HAVE BEEN BUYIN'
I realized that the lifegain aspect might be a good way to focus win conditions - things like Archangel of Thune, Crested Sunmare, and Aetherflux Reservoir (the last of which pairs nicely with Paradox Engine. Still, not exactly super unique to WG though.
Current EDH
UThassa, God of the Sea devotion control
WRGTana, the Bloodsower & Sidar Kondo of Jamuraa partners weenie tokens
UUnesh, Criosphinx Sovereign Sphinx tribal
WUTaigam, Ojutai Master tokens on the rebound spellslinger
GRhonas the Indomitable green creature beats
UGRashmi, Eternities Crafter ETB tribal
Retired EDH
WURGKynaios and Tiro of Meletis group hug
URThe Locust God draw swarm
UTalrand, Sky Summoner funsies blue spells
WBObzedat, Ghost Council life gain/drain
WBG Karador, Ghost Chieftain
B Toshiro Umezawa
BG Pharika, God of Affliction - Necromancy and Politics
WWW The Church of Heliod
WBR Zurgo, Helmsmasher
RG Wort, the Raidmother
UBR Jeleva, Nephalia's Scourge
UG Vorel of the Hull Clade
Alhammarret's Archive, more cards and life for you.
With all that card draw for everyone it could be good to have a way to punish that, sadly most of those effects are in black, but there are some other options for that. Storm Seeker, Viseling, Iron Maiden, there is some more artifacts that do same thing but I don't think you want to go that route if you want to stay in selesnya.
BGU Sidisi, Brood Tyrant - Lurking Zombies.
GBG Sapling of Colfenor - Forest Growth and Destruction.
RWU Zedruu the Greathearted - Blinking and trading.
GWB Teneb the Harvester - Enchantments, you lose life I gain life.
RRR Neheb the Eternal - Ping people for mana burn.