Quote from teazia »Furnace Dragon would make a powerful addition to the deck, it would require specific deck building and might lose you some friends too :p.
Quote from Ryperior74 »karrthus, tyrant Jund is definately a must since it's a haste enable for dragons and a game ending but not necessary to mention though
Fun fact just recently September 10th some nutcase tried to sell 1 for $111
Quote from teazia »On the block for cards to evaluate that have not been mentioned so far (mostly budget), need to consider cc and power level:
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Sensei's Diving Top- Topdeck manipulation
Scroll Rack- Topdeck/Hand manipulation
Crown of Convergence- Topdeck manipulation *Does not require shuffling, self powered. Cheap pseudo Sylvan Library. Nasty with Lurking Predators.
Death of Glory- Budget mass rez
Twilight's Call- Buget mass rez
Into the Wilds- Topdeck manipulation payoff- 38% self effective and but down as lands are fetched. (Maybe Druidic Satchel better as it is 100%).
Impromptu Raid- Another topdeck manipulation payoff.
Siege Dragon- Strong attack trigger. ETB is blah
Warmonger Hellkite- Chaos and board wide shenganigans
Hoarding Dragon- Dragon + Tutor
Harbinger of the Hunt- Lower cc, nice sweeper.
Dragon Roost- Expensive, but reliable, repeatable dragon Generation. Less suspect to removal.
Strionic Resonator- Lots of triggered abilities to copy
Vedalken Orrery- Flash for everything
Eerie Interlude- budget Ghostway
Harbinger of the Hunt- Lower cc, nice sweeper.
Fires of Yavimaya- More haste
Consume the Meek- Sweeper
Signal the Clans- Budget tutor
Calming Verse- Sweet one sided enchantment mass removal. Cleansing Mediation and Spring Cleanings also considered. Merciless eviction may the most flexible though.
Mind Unbound- maybe too expensive, but a nice draw spell. Mystic Remora instead? The blue Siege is also nice, but I would prefer not to loot if I can draw.
Call to the Kindred- Budget Descendant's Path, but an aura.
Phyrexian Arena- Draw
Greed- More draw!
Too many ideas, and not enough slots! Need to streamline. Feedback welcome.
[c]Kaalia of the Vast[/c]
Quote from Igzex »I'd always run Dragonlord Kolaghan long before Karrthus because the sight of blue makes me cringe when I have Karrthus on the field for a number of reasons.
That said I did say I am thinking about adding a little bit of blink to my deck...
My dragon tiers would go as following:
Top: Scourge of Valkas, Dragonlord Silumgar, Atarka, World Render, Bladewing the Risen, Utvara Hellkite, Scalelord Reckoner, Dragonlord Dromoka
High: Thundermaw Hellkite, Dragon Broodmother, Dragonlord Kolaghan, Dromoka, the Eternal, Silumgar, the Drifting Death, Glorybringer, Scion of the Ur-Dragon, Hypersonic Dragon, Kokusho, the Evening Star
Mid: Teneb, the Harvester, Dragonlord Ojutai, both Niv-Mizzets, Kolaghan, the Storm's Fury, Thunderbreak Regent, Steel Hellkite, Thunder Dragon, Deathbringer Regent, Wasitora, Nekoru Queen, Stormbreath Dragon, Broodmate Dragon, Hoarding Dragon, Ramos, Dragon Engine (In the context of this deck), Scourge of the Throne, Knollspine Dragon, Dragon Mage, Hellkite Charger
Low: Kilnmouth Dragon, Rith, the Awakener, Balefire Dragon, Skyline Despot, Dragonlord Atarka, Bogardan Hellkite, Karrthus, Tyrant of Jund, Prossh, Skyraider of Kher, Icefall Regent, Boneyard Scourge, Hellkite Tyrant, Hellkite Overlord, Keiga, the Tide Star, Yosei, the Morning Star (Unless you're a jerk and have a lock engine for him in your deck), Ojutai, Soul of Winter, Territorial Hellkite, Tyrant's Familiar
Troll: Dragon Tyrant, Nalathni Dragon, Draco, Tek, the dragon babies, Rorix Bladewing (Eternal Masters printing with that goofy new art), Slumbering Dragon, Vampiric Dragon, Teeka's Dragon (Especially if you run all things to discount dragon casting costs with in the deck)
Bottom: Everything not listed.
Quote from Igzex »
Even with the 1 mana discount, Bogardan Hellkite and Dragonlord Atarka are a lot of mana meaning their ETBs are kinda underwhelming at the stage of a game you would be casting them in. Again, I'd run actual boardwipes or just try an early game glorybringer/wasitora, neko queen. Therefore, the edge goes to the potential shenanigans with the Niv-Mizzets.
Quote from Gashnaw »everyone keeps saying that dragons are slow but i have only run into that issue once. Most games i end up casting many dragons and have a nice board state with them. Even to the point were i am getting ganged up on due to my army. Eliminating players in one foul swoop. Even getting to point where I am hard casting 2 or 3 dragons a turn with mana left over.
Quote from vandertroll »Quote from Gashnaw »everyone keeps saying that dragons are slow but i have only run into that issue once. Most games i end up casting many dragons and have a nice board state with them. Even to the point were i am getting ganged up on due to my army. Eliminating players in one foul swoop. Even getting to point where I am hard casting 2 or 3 dragons a turn with mana left over.
What type of ramp do you use? Care to share a list?
Quote from DirkGently »Personally I've played zirilan of the claw since forever, and the (rare) games where I'm actually playing dragons from my hand feel AWFUL. They're clunky and expensive and slow and fragile. Still not as awful as playing the precon dragons vs the precon cats, though. Cats absolutely obliterated me with all 3 commanders.