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Quote from Raveroh noesssss....whatever shall we do? Your $400 deck got trumped by an uncommon, you mad bro?
Quote from SnowBunny »Notice the decks I gave examples to... NOT Gitrog because his deck intentionally kills lands. But Azusa, Mina and Den, and Omnath. Decks who's very purpose is fast ramp to play Eldrazi or mass tokens (for omnath).
Quote from schweinefett »i hate to do this, but in my experience, that sounds like the exact kinda thing that people who've never tried/experienced it in real life would say.
Think about MLD against ramp like this:...
Quote from TheRevanchist »Never understood all the hate for MLD spells. Like others have said, resource denial is part of the game. That's the whole purpose of some decks (I'm looking at you Stax). If your deck gets utterly destroyed by MLD spells, then I would say it's more of an issue with your deck than it is with the spell.
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Quote from Grinning Demon »I like to play MLD in RW and RWB to keep my opponents from answering threats when I'm ahead. I found that cards like Winter Orb, Zo-zu the Punisher and Manabarbs are better at containing ramping players than MLD because they generally recover much faster from it as pointed out by others.
Quote from SonicChaos »Quote from Grinning Demon »I like to play MLD in RW and RWB to keep my opponents from answering threats when I'm ahead. I found that cards like Winter Orb, Zo-zu the Punisher and Manabarbs are better at containing ramping players than MLD because they generally recover much faster from it as pointed out by others.
Agreed. Usually it's a temporary fix and the taxes are what really kill those decks. Zo-zu the Punisher and Manabarbs have done work in my Nekusar deck at shutting those strats down.
Quote from bobthefunnyYup. It doesn't change zones. It simply holds a sign up saying "I'm not here!" if anything comes looking for it.
Quote from Blinking Spirit »Quote from magickware99 »How do you achieve the state of "above being logical"?I dunno. You tell me.
Quote from magickware99 »How do you achieve the state of "above being logical"?
Quote from hyalapterouslemur »Short answer: The first rule of Commander is, nothing lasts forever. Why should lands be any different?
Long answer: The reality is, you need to diversify your mana sources. That means I should be able to hate out your mana rocks with Bane of Progress, your mana dorks with Pestilence, your mana walkers with Æther Snap...and your ramp spells with Armageddon. And you should be able to do the same with me. (And the usual kvetch about how Commander players really need to start looking at mana costs.)
Quote from Jivanmukta »A multiplayer victory has to exist beyond simply beating your opponent, there has to be a mutual enjoyment of everyone involved. If you win the game and everyone else is miserable then you've still lost. What gets played is irrelevant.
Quote from Macabre »It can be rough to play against, but can be an easy win-condition for some generals.
If you can hard-cast something like decree of annihilation and have enough mana to cast your commander from the command zone, or if you have a threatening planeswalker still out, that is almost always gg. Narset decks usually win with their cataclysm/razia's purification.
What I don't like is the random Armageddon in a deck not equipped to actually use it effectively, and a salty opponent casts it because they are about to die. That is some obnoxious crap, and IMO is the main reason MLD has such a bad reputation.
Quote from Magic Online »What is fun? Whatever you want it to be!
Quote from SnowBunny »Quote from Jusstice »You can always just ramp harder. Interactive, no, but people also play craps and cat's cradle.
And this, I feel like, is a major problem, when the game becomes "who can ramp harder" because then it is either Play G or spend bookoo money on artifact ramp.
And oddly, I rarely see get upset about creature tutors beside tooth and nail... but that is a whole different issue.
Quote from Jusstice »You can always just ramp harder. Interactive, no, but people also play craps and cat's cradle.