I figure it would be a good idea to have a thread like this. I know more than once I've been looking for a card with a particular kind of effect within certain parameters and end up missing a lot of stuff because keyword searching on Gatherer isn't always enough. Making a thread for each request can really clog up the forum.
So it's simple, just ask for some cards that do what you need them to do and say in what colors you want them. This is a helpful community, I'm sure there will be plenty of great suggestions and maybe some out-of-the-box thinking.
Personally, right now I'm looking for a good way to keep my hand stocked with lands for Retrace in White/Blue/Red. I've got Land Tax, but it seems like all the other good options are in Green.
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WUHanna, Pillowfort's NavigatorUW WBRAleshacratsBRW UBRGrixis Pew PewRBU URGYasova the ThreateningGRU BGGlissa the ArticiferGB WUSygg MerfolkUW RSquee, Value NabobR
I agree that a thread like this would be very useful for people just looking for cards to help out certain strategies and goals.
As to your search, the main problem is that green is the best color to have anything to do with lands, as you have alread noticed. A decent option may be to use something like Library of Leng to keep discarding the same land to the top of your library.
You could also just run a cards like Armillary Sphere. Journeyer's Kite might not be bad. You might be able to make some use of Trade Routes if you want to get lands back from the battlefield.
I figure it would be a good idea to have a thread like this. I know more than once I've been looking for a card with a particular kind of effect within certain parameters and end up missing a lot of stuff because keyword searching on Gatherer isn't always enough. Making a thread for each request can really clog up the forum.
So it's simple, just ask for some cards that do what you need them to do and say in what colors you want them. This is a helpful community, I'm sure there will be plenty of great suggestions and maybe some out-of-the-box thinking.
Personally, right now I'm looking for a good way to keep my hand stocked with lands for Retrace in White/Blue/Red. I've got Land Tax, but it seems like all the other good options are in Green.
You don't call "dying to removal" if the removal is more expensive in resources than the creature. If you have to spend BG (Abrupt Decay), or W + basic land (PtE) to remove a 1G, that is not "dying to removal". Strictly speaking Goyf dies to removal, but actually your removal is dying to Goyf.
And feel free to use the other stations and Trading Post to gain additional advantage off all these artifact creature tokens.
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Card advantage is not the same thing as card draw. Something for 2B cannot be strictly worse than something for BBB or 3BB. If you're taking out Swords to Plowshares for Plummet, you're a fool. Stop doing these things!
I was going to suggest Dredge cards as well since they are probably the easiest (since they work from the graveyard and keep feeding themselves). The Mesmeric Orb combo mentioned above is pretty good for this also.
You can also use Hermit Druid if your library contains no basic lands.
As to your search, the main problem is that green is the best color to have anything to do with lands, as you have alread noticed. A decent option may be to use something like Library of Leng to keep discarding the same land to the top of your library.
FYI, Library does not work that way. Per Gatherer:
10/4/2004 You can’t use the Library of Leng ability to place a discarded card on top of your library when you discard a card as a cost, because costs aren’t effects.
Oh man, that Planar Birth tech is so sweet! Good call. I was pretty iffy on Trade Routes since I don't want to lose all my mana access, but that combined with Crucible of Worlds ought to do the trick.
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As mentioned, Mesmeric Orb is arguably the best mill card in the game. I also like Altar of Dementia, which also lets you put creatures there from the battlefield.
Another really good one is Golgari Grave Troll. In fact, for 99% of Magic players, this card reads "something something something something dredge 6"; also in dredge, I'm a fan of the Life from the Loam/cycling lands loop.
Foster is kinda cute. Its efficacy depends on your creatures. Gamekeeper is nice for a similar effect.
Crawling Sensation is a cute effect for if you're also running tokens. It's basically a double Curse of the Bloody Tome with an occasional token. (And it can combo so well with staples like Strip Mine and the cycling lands.) Nyx Weaver is a similar "mill 2 every turn plus a bonus" effect, one more on-topic to your deck.
If you want to put cards there from your hand, I would say the best option is classic Wild Mongrel.
And when you want a specific card from your library, Entomb.
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Card advantage is not the same thing as card draw. Something for 2B cannot be strictly worse than something for BBB or 3BB. If you're taking out Swords to Plowshares for Plummet, you're a fool. Stop doing these things!
I'm searching for cards that let me play instants and sorceries from the graveyard or to get them back in my hand for my Mizzix of the izmagnus storm (U/R).
I already know the classics (Snapcaster Mage, Recoup, ecc.) so try something new, or old sine I'm young and I don't know a lot of old cards, try to be innovative.
I'm searching for cards that let me play instants and sorceries from the graveyard or to get them back in my hand for my Mizzix of the izmagnus storm (U/R).
I already know the classics (Snapcaster Mage, Recoup, ecc.) so try something new, or old sine I'm young and I don't know a lot of old cards, try to be innovative.
I know there is, I just can't find the words for it: things of the "make creatures you control fight/deal damage to target creature(s) you don't control" variant in green or black? I'm *presuming* it works along with deathtouch.
There's a couple of 'target creature fights' (Epic Confrontation, Hunt the Weak) but I was hoping for something bigger than paying 2-3 for trading 1 token into a creature.
Going for Pharika+1 trillion snakes+everything has deathtouch.
Also, as I am not sure how you plan on getting "1 trillion snakes" but Pharika's ability doesn't necessarily give you a snake token. It gives it to the owner of the card being exiled so if you are trying to exile your opponent's creature cards thy will get the snake. You may already know this, but I have seen people get this confused.
I know there is, I just can't find the words for it: things of the "make creatures you control fight/deal damage to target creature(s) you don't control" variant in green or black? I'm *presuming* it works along with deathtouch. And yes, fight works with deathtouch.
There's a couple of 'target creature fights' (Epic Confrontation, Hunt the Weak) but I was hoping for something bigger than paying 2-3 for trading 1 token into a creature.
Going for Pharika+1 trillion snakes+everything has deathtouch.
Ulvenwald Tracker only allows one fight per turn, but it's repeatable at least. You might also want to look at Lure type effects.
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Looking for some monoblack creatures with really strong tap abilities or that like becoming untapped, like King Macar, the Gold-Cursed or Helldozer]
Pain Seer isn't bad as long as your deck isn't filled with 5 and 6 drops. Servant of Tymaret is good if you can control when, and how often, your creatures tap and untap. Hollowsage could be good for that too.
It seems like whenever I post something to the effect of "I wish there was a card that ___," Wizards obliges me about 4-6 months later. I wished for a way to run green in my Kher Keep-centric Rohgahh of Kher Keep deck and they print Prossh. I wished for a Compulsive Research effect stapled to a permanent and out comes Oath of Jace. So here's hoping that my secret admirer at WotC reads through this thread, too!
I hope that upcoming sets have some cards like these:
Blue creature enchantments with CMC less than 3 which pump and grant evasion.
More ways to give hexproof (maybe a little unlikely, though you never know now that we have some hexproof hate cards).
Exclusive sweepers, e.g. "Destroy all except..."
Conditional countermagic at 2 CMC.
I could go on and on, but those four feel at least within the realm of possibility. Time will tell...
So it's simple, just ask for some cards that do what you need them to do and say in what colors you want them. This is a helpful community, I'm sure there will be plenty of great suggestions and maybe some out-of-the-box thinking.
Personally, right now I'm looking for a good way to keep my hand stocked with lands for Retrace in White/Blue/Red. I've got Land Tax, but it seems like all the other good options are in Green.
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As to your search, the main problem is that green is the best color to have anything to do with lands, as you have alread noticed. A decent option may be to use something like Library of Leng to keep discarding the same land to the top of your library.
You could also just run a cards like Armillary Sphere. Journeyer's Kite might not be bad. You might be able to make some use of Trade Routes if you want to get lands back from the battlefield.
Otherwise, Gift of Estates, Tithe, and Oreskos Explorer can get you more lands in hand.
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Things that are more fun when creatures die:
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Vicious Shadows
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Things that are more fun when artifacts die:
Summoning Station
And feel free to use the other stations and Trading Post to gain additional advantage off all these artifact creature tokens.
On phasing:
Url formatting is such a pain here, but these cards will get you there the fastest or Mesmeric Orb (+ Basalt Monolith if you want to be cheeky)
You can also use Hermit Druid if your library contains no basic lands.
Shu Yun, the Silent Tempest WUR Voltron Control
Temmet, Vizier of Naktamun WU Unblockable Mirror Trickery
Ra's al Ghul (Sidar Kondo) and Face-Down Ninjas
Brudiclad, Token Engineer
Vaevictis (VV2) the Dire Lantern
Rona, Disciple of Gix
Tiana the Auror
Hallar
Ulrich the Politician
Zur the Rebel
Scorpion, Locust, Scarab, Egyptian Gods
O-Kagachi, Mathas, Mairsil
"Non-Tribal" Tribal Generals, Eggs
FYI, Library does not work that way. Per Gatherer:
Oh man, that Planar Birth tech is so sweet! Good call. I was pretty iffy on Trade Routes since I don't want to lose all my mana access, but that combined with Crucible of Worlds ought to do the trick.
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Another really good one is Golgari Grave Troll. In fact, for 99% of Magic players, this card reads "something something something something dredge 6"; also in dredge, I'm a fan of the Life from the Loam/cycling lands loop.
Also on this cool point are Mulch, Vessel of Nascency, and Commune with the Gods, because a 'whiff' is still good when you're just filling the 'yard.
Foster is kinda cute. Its efficacy depends on your creatures. Gamekeeper is nice for a similar effect.
Crawling Sensation is a cute effect for if you're also running tokens. It's basically a double Curse of the Bloody Tome with an occasional token. (And it can combo so well with staples like Strip Mine and the cycling lands.) Nyx Weaver is a similar "mill 2 every turn plus a bonus" effect, one more on-topic to your deck.
Later, Keening Stone is a nice mill effect.
If you want to put cards there from your hand, I would say the best option is classic Wild Mongrel.
And when you want a specific card from your library, Entomb.
On phasing:
Nicol Bolas Dragon Dick
Hanna, Ship's Navigator Heart-attack Stax
Oona, Queen of the Fae Fairy Dance
Vhati Il-Dal Tree of Woe
Scion of the Ur-Dragon Durgensturm
Jolrael, Empress of Beasts Jamuraa's Army
Liliana, Heretical Healer Rise from your Graves and Proliferate
Tariel, Reckoner of Souls Angelic Judgment [
I already know the classics (Snapcaster Mage, Recoup, ecc.) so try something new, or old sine I'm young and I don't know a lot of old cards, try to be innovative.
Thanks in advance.
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Also, as I am not sure how you plan on getting "1 trillion snakes" but Pharika's ability doesn't necessarily give you a snake token. It gives it to the owner of the card being exiled so if you are trying to exile your opponent's creature cards thy will get the snake. You may already know this, but I have seen people get this confused.
Ulvenwald Tracker only allows one fight per turn, but it's repeatable at least. You might also want to look at Lure type effects.
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Visara the Dreadful and Avatar of Woe have good tap abilities. Ghoulcaller Gisa could be good as well depending on your build.
I hope that upcoming sets have some cards like these: