I've always struggled with finding right mana rocks for my decks - searching magiccards.info is a really good, but also time consuming way to search for them. While the accelerants are a core parts of any EDH deck, not everyone have enough time to seach for the most optimal ones for their decks. So, to save time and make searching easier, here's the list of all mana-accelerating or mana-making artifacts (I've included things like Wayfarer's Bauble (technically not a rock) and Chromatic Star (eggs may not accelerate you but still are invaluable in certain decks)). If I ommited something worth mentioning - please do tell, I'll update the list!
What are your thoughts on adding Clock of Omens and/or Voltaic Key? I know they're not striclty mana, but that's how they end up getting used in my mind.
What are your thoughts on adding Clock of Omens and/or Voltaic Key? I know they're not striclty mana, but that's how they end up getting used in my mind.
I also think this would be useful. However, the list of "support" rocks is quite small. I would add Doubling Cube and Galvanic Key as well to the "support" list or whatever you want to call it.
Oh, and thanks for the write up! I know this is a resource that I've needed in the past and will surely be a boon to new players, so I'm thankful you took the initiative to put something together.
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Playing with proxied cards at sanctioned events is good, actually.
You might also want a place for things like sadbot that search for lands.
Finally, a thing about combos. Like, I know my Ghave uses Cathodion and Su-chi with Mikaeus, the Unhallowed as a simple infinite mana and saprolings loop.
(For those who don't understand, you can sac them to Ghave, granting you mana. They come back, you remove a +1/+1 counter from them to make a saproling, and sac them again. You have a net mana gain of C for Cathodion, CC for Su-chi.)
Card advantage is not the same thing as card draw. Something for 2B cannot be strictly worse than something for BBB or 3BB. If you're taking out Swords to Plowshares for Plummet, you're a fool. Stop doing these things!
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Thanks for the suggestions, I will add them asap (except for sad robot, just because he's already there :)).
As for commentary, I think being a good or bad mana rock might vary with every deck. Of course some manarocks are much, much better than the other (see Sol Ring or Mana Crypt) and should be played in every deck if possible, but there are some that are gems only for certain decks, like aforementioned Cathodion and Su-Chi or Chronatog Totem in Jalira. I might make a "Top X" manarocks in certain categories, but definitely not now.
Well not to nitpick, but the Cameos can't be strictly worse than the Obelisks, because color identity won't allow you to play Obelisk of Esper in an Azorius deck. In practical terms, it's nice for people to see all the mana rocks that are available, since they might forget that Cameos exist otherwise.
Do you consider cost-reduction artifacts to be "mana rocks"? For instance, if I build a monocolored deck, I consider the corresponding Medallion to be a mana rock since in most cases it will effectively provide 1 mana towards casting a spell. Some that I know of off the top of my head:
Well not to nitpick, but the Cameos can't be strictly worse than the Obelisks, because color identity won't allow you to play Obelisk of Esper in an Azorius deck. In practical terms, it's nice for people to see all the mana rocks that are available, since they might forget that Cameos exist otherwise.
I consider that to go into 'deck-specific exemption'. Similar to how an instant is strictly better than a sorcery unless you have something like Magnivore. Or a 3/3 is strictly better than a 2/3 unless you have something like Meekstone or Wave of Reckoning. Or 2B is strictly better than 1BB unless you have something like Gray Merchant of Asphodel. Et cetera.
tl;dr: Certain decks make exemptions to 'strictly'.
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Card advantage is not the same thing as card draw. Something for 2B cannot be strictly worse than something for BBB or 3BB. If you're taking out Swords to Plowshares for Plummet, you're a fool. Stop doing these things!
As for eggs, they're cetainly powerful in builds that want to recur them, for example with Second Sunrise, because they are cheap and draw cards. They're commonly used in Sydri decks, among others.
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snapcaster mage
3 horizon canopy
2 full art damnation
I've always struggled with finding right mana rocks for my decks - searching magiccards.info is a really good, but also time consuming way to search for them. While the accelerants are a core parts of any EDH deck, not everyone have enough time to seach for the most optimal ones for their decks. So, to save time and make searching easier, here's the list of all mana-accelerating or mana-making artifacts (I've included things like Wayfarer's Bauble (technically not a rock) and Chromatic Star (eggs may not accelerate you but still are invaluable in certain decks)). If I ommited something worth mentioning - please do tell, I'll update the list!
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V0.981 26.03.2016 - Added cost reducing artifacts
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V1.4 14.01.2017 - Added Aether Revolt.
V1.5 20.04.2017 - Added Amonkhet.
V1.51 25.04.2017 - Added Chrome Mox and Mox Diamond to the Duel Commander banned list.
V1.6 10.08.2017 - Added Hour of Devastation, added section with rocks on MTGO 1v1 Commander banlist.
V1.7 10.08.2017 - Added Commander 2017.
V1.8 29.09.2017 - Added Ixalan.
V1.9 28.03.2018 - Added Rivals of Ixalan.
V1.10 11.05.2018 - Added Dominaria, plus updated MTGO banlist.
V1.11 17.07.2018 - Added Battlebond and Core Set 2019.
V1.12 27.07.2018 - Added Commander 2018.
V1.13 01.07.2019 - Added Guilds of Ravnica, Ravnica Allegiance, War of the Spark, Modern Horizons and Core Set 2020.
V1.14 12.02.2020 - Added Commander 2019, Throne of Edraine and Theros Beyond Death. Removed the MTGO and Duel Commander banlists.
V1.15 11.04.2020 - Added Ikoria and Commander 2020, plus some cards I missed from Eldraine.
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What are your thoughts on adding Clock of Omens and/or Voltaic Key? I know they're not striclty mana, but that's how they end up getting used in my mind.
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I also think this would be useful. However, the list of "support" rocks is quite small. I would add Doubling Cube and Galvanic Key as well to the "support" list or whatever you want to call it.
Oh, and thanks for the write up! I know this is a resource that I've needed in the past and will surely be a boon to new players, so I'm thankful you took the initiative to put something together.
Blue lives don't matter in the slightest.
You might also want a place for things like sadbot that search for lands.
Finally, a thing about combos. Like, I know my Ghave uses Cathodion and Su-chi with Mikaeus, the Unhallowed as a simple infinite mana and saprolings loop.
(For those who don't understand, you can sac them to Ghave, granting you mana. They come back, you remove a +1/+1 counter from them to make a saproling, and sac them again. You have a net mana gain of C for Cathodion, CC for Su-chi.)
On phasing:
Thanks for the suggestions, I will add them asap (except for sad robot, just because he's already there :)).
As for commentary, I think being a good or bad mana rock might vary with every deck. Of course some manarocks are much, much better than the other (see Sol Ring or Mana Crypt) and should be played in every deck if possible, but there are some that are gems only for certain decks, like aforementioned Cathodion and Su-Chi or Chronatog Totem in Jalira. I might make a "Top X" manarocks in certain categories, but definitely not now.
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2CMC:
Medallion cycle
Pearl Medallion
Sapphire Medallion
Jet Medallion
Ruby Medallion
Emerald Medallion
3CMC:
Cloud Key
4CMC:
Urza's Filter (though it affects all players)
5CMC:
Seal of the Guildpact
Added:
I omitted Locket of Yesterdays, as I don't see any application in singleton format (if there's any, please let me know!).
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I consider that to go into 'deck-specific exemption'. Similar to how an instant is strictly better than a sorcery unless you have something like Magnivore. Or a 3/3 is strictly better than a 2/3 unless you have something like Meekstone or Wave of Reckoning. Or 2B is strictly better than 1BB unless you have something like Gray Merchant of Asphodel. Et cetera.
tl;dr: Certain decks make exemptions to 'strictly'.
On phasing:
WUBRGProgenitus
URGMaelstrom Wanderer
WUBOloro, Ageless Ascetic
WURZedruu, the Greathearted
BRGProssh, Skyraider of Kher ($100)
GWUDerevi, Empyrial Tactician ($100)
UGKruphix, God of Horizons ($100)(retired)UTalrand, Sky Summoner (French 1v1, $100)
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Additionally, I keep reading about the eggs. What are they played in?
As for eggs, they're cetainly powerful in builds that want to recur them, for example with Second Sunrise, because they are cheap and draw cards. They're commonly used in Sydri decks, among others.
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Also, what about storm cauldron?
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Not that's it's really worth playing in these situations, but Locket of Yesterdays can reduce the cost of your spells in a few rare corner-cases.
- You're playing tons of Relentless Rats.
- You're playing tons of Shadowborn Apostles and there's a Sphere of Resistance effect in play.
- You're casting a spell from someone else's deck that has the same name as one in your graveyard.
Probably still not worth including locket in this list, but I'm feeling pedantic today so here you go.WUBSente: The Politics and Metaphor of Stones
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pucatrade
big receipts
alpha mox emerald
beta time walk
4 goyfs received
3 liliana of the veil
4 karn liberated
3 force of will
4 grove of the burnwillows
snapcaster mage
3 horizon canopy
2 full art damnation
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