Lethal Vapors + Teferi's Protection + krosan grip = infinite disappear and wait for your opponents to deck themselves from drawing for turn, krosan grip to destroy while you hold priority so your opponents don't one for one you on the missing turns
Su-Chi equippwd with Nim Deathmantle + sacrifice outlet: Infinite sacrifices + infinite triggers. Change Su Chi for Composite Golem and you have infinite mana in any combination, but it is limited to 5c. Add a Stone haven Outfitter to draw any ammount in mono white.
Before las rotation, I got tje idea in my head of exploiting the infinite cast potential of greenbelt rampager, sonI was determined to make the jank run rampant and built a dck with the following combo, this is very bad:
Rampager in hand
Rishkar, Spontaneous Artist, Either Rhonas or Kefnet Monument and the enchantment tbat makes creatures explore on ETB.
So, cast Rampager, explore, and if you got a +1/+1 counter, you spent one eneegy to give it haste and add G. As you didn't have the two energies, it bounced back.
I got it to work on the fourth match I played with Kefnet as wincon.
Tangleroot is a solid upgrade to other foemats. with it and spontaneous artist you get the infinite casts.
Lethal Vapors + Teferi's Protection + krosan grip = infinite disappear and wait for your opponents to deck themselves from drawing for turn, krosan grip to destroy while you hold priority so your opponents don't one for one you on the missing turns
How does this work, exactly?
You activate Lethal Vapors many, many times, then respond to those activations with Krosan Grip so that your opponents can't activate it and also skip turns. Then Teferi's Protection to be untouchable during those turns. It's like putting yourself in suspended animation to outlive your opponents.
I saw it in an Ayli, Eternal Pilgrim deck inspired by the BLAME! manga that did a lot of search-opponent-library-exile to make sure opponents were stripped of ways to recycle their libraries to 'survive' those many turns. The thread has since been deleted, though.
Lethal Vapors + Teferi's Protection + krosan grip = infinite disappear and wait for your opponents to deck themselves from drawing for turn, krosan grip to destroy while you hold priority so your opponents don't one for one you on the missing turns
How does this work, exactly?
You activate Lethal Vapors many, many times, then respond to those activations with Krosan Grip so that your opponents can't activate it and also skip turns. Then Teferi's Protection to be untouchable during those turns. It's like putting yourself in suspended animation to outlive your opponents.
I saw it in an Ayli, Eternal Pilgrim deck inspired by the BLAME! manga that did a lot of search-opponent-library-exile to make sure opponents were stripped of ways to recycle their libraries to 'survive' those many turns. The thread has since been deleted, though.
Lethal Vapors + Teferi's Protection + krosan grip = infinite disappear and wait for your opponents to deck themselves from drawing for turn, krosan grip to destroy while you hold priority so your opponents don't one for one you on the missing turns
How does this work, exactly?
You activate Lethal Vapors many, many times, then respond to those activations with Krosan Grip so that your opponents can't activate it and also skip turns. Then Teferi's Protection to be untouchable during those turns. It's like putting yourself in suspended animation to outlive your opponents.
I saw it in an Ayli, Eternal Pilgrim deck inspired by the BLAME! manga that did a lot of search-opponent-library-exile to make sure opponents were stripped of ways to recycle their libraries to 'survive' those many turns. The thread has since been deleted, though.
Your opponents can wait for Krogan Grip to resolve before activating it to the same value that you did, and if they all do that then the game goes back to normal.
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Your opponents can wait for Krogan Grip to resolve before activating it to the same value that you did, and if they all do that then the game goes back to normal.
Once Krosan Grip resolves, Vapors is no longer on the table. As long as you hold priority after playing Vapors and after every activation there's no window for your opponents to activate it.
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Okay I didn't consider Gripping your own Vapors but only using it for the split second. That's still janky af but it works.
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I think Expansion just needs a target initially. Original Expansion targets that other spell, then Doublecast copies it and the copy targets the original Expansion — from there on it's self-sustaining. Same would be true for Fork/Reverberate/etc, though.
Ral, Storm Conduit's -2 ability is the link you are missing, I believe. Use the -2, then cast Doublecast, causing Ral's delayed trigger from the -2 to trigger, copying Doublecast. Let just that copy resolve, then cast any Fork variant targeting the original Doublecast still on the stack. The delayed trigger from the copied and resolved Doublecast will trigger, doubling your Fork, which you use to copy the Fork still on the stack, resulting in infinite copies and Ral triggers.
EDIT: Howl of the Horde would be another Doublecast effect to run for the sake of redundancy.
Ral, Storm Conduit's -2 ability is the link you are missing, I believe. Use the -2, then cast Doublecast, causing Ral's delayed trigger from the -2 to trigger, copying Doublecast. Let just that copy resolve, then cast any Fork variant targeting the original Doublecast still on the stack. The delayed trigger from the copied and resolved Doublecast will trigger, doubling your Fork, which you use to copy the Fork still on the stack, resulting in infinite copies and Ral triggers.
That does work! Thanks for explaining it. So both Howl of the Horde & Doublecast plus any Fork get the job done, or any combination of a spell plus two Forks.
How does this work, exactly?
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Before las rotation, I got tje idea in my head of exploiting the infinite cast potential of greenbelt rampager, sonI was determined to make the jank run rampant and built a dck with the following combo, this is very bad:
Rampager in hand
Rishkar, Spontaneous Artist, Either Rhonas or Kefnet Monument and the enchantment tbat makes creatures explore on ETB.
So, cast Rampager, explore, and if you got a +1/+1 counter, you spent one eneegy to give it haste and add G. As you didn't have the two energies, it bounced back.
I got it to work on the fourth match I played with Kefnet as wincon.
Tangleroot is a solid upgrade to other foemats. with it and spontaneous artist you get the infinite casts.
I saw it in an Ayli, Eternal Pilgrim deck inspired by the BLAME! manga that did a lot of search-opponent-library-exile to make sure opponents were stripped of ways to recycle their libraries to 'survive' those many turns. The thread has since been deleted, though.
Edit: Also, it used stuff like Grand Abolisher instead of Krosan Grip.
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Thanks for the clarification!
Focused:
BGU [Primer] Sidisi's Zombie Horde and Shenanigans BGU | BG [Primer] Mazirek and How to Abuse the Stack BG | G [Primer] Polukranos: "Feed...! Me...! More...!" G
RWB Zurgo Friendshipsmasher RWB | R Zada: Cantrips and Tokens [Extremely Budget <$40] R | BRGW Saskia's Wheeling Humans Reanimator BRGW
Under Construction:
UBRG Kydele + Vial Smasher Wheel Like No Tomorrow! UBRG | GW Karametra's Vehicle Harvest GW | GUWB Kydele & Ravos Cycling Through Theros GUWB |
BR Grusilda - a serious reanimator BR
Projects:
Anti-Standard - homebrew format | Boss & Miniboss - homebrew format | Global Effects Conspiracy Cube - 720 Cube
Your opponents can wait for Krogan Grip to resolve before activating it to the same value that you did, and if they all do that then the game goes back to normal.
Please put the colors of your suggestion in mana symbols prior to your suggestion in color-wheel order. To do this, put any of W, U, B, R, G, and/or C, whatever is applicable, with the word 'mana' inside [square bracets] before and the word '/mana' inside [square bracets] after the mana.
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How does this work? You cast Doublecast, then go to cast whatever instant or sorcery. Doublecast's delayed trigger triggers & copies it. Now what?
I believe you need two proper Forks (Expansion works, of course) or Fury Storm after having cast your commander at least once.
Edit: See correction below.
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EDIT: Howl of the Horde would be another Doublecast effect to run for the sake of redundancy.
That does work! Thanks for explaining it. So both Howl of the Horde & Doublecast plus any Fork get the job done, or any combination of a spell plus two Forks.