MTG Salvation

Just like the "Random Card of the Day" thread, I thought the MTGSalvation Community could evaluate an EDH deck every day. Either by discussing them here, and/or by posting in the linked thread.

A deck will be chosen randomly from the Commander Decklist Database daily.

Only Multiplayer decks will be posted.

Only lists updated within the last year will be posted.

I just thought it would be a good way to generate views and comments on decks, help people, offer your advice from what you have seen/experienced yourself, and who knows, you may even learn something in the process by being part of the discussion!

Today's deck 07/16: exoclipse's Dakkon Blackblade - LINK

Pretty standard mono-green EDH deck that's focused on creatures. I say this as a complement.

Could use more ETB shenanigans.

Not sure if I would be playing so many fogs or crop rotation, and I think the deck could use more ramp.

Well, certainly wasn't expecting myself as #1. :'D

Anyways, the decklist in the thread's rather out of date, but I've cut a few of the less useful creatures and added more ramp. I've consistently run into mana issues, and this thing can be hungry for mana and card draw. But yeah, I'm always looking for cards that I've overlooked and other random feedback! //shameless

I might find room for....

Powder Keg
Natural Affinity
Kamahl
Setessan Tactics
Living Plane
Tabernacle of Pendrell Vale

Alright, today's deck: Ninja Bob's Rasputin Dreamweaver (UW Miracles)

http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/the-game/commander-edh/multiplayer-commander-decklists/511333-rasputin-dreamweaver-uw-miracles

I'm a little worried that entreat is such a big part of its wincon. Not that entreat is a bad card, but a deck with very few win cons could have problems if the wincon gets stripped, countered, etc.

Yeah, I'd run cards like Luminarch Ascension along side. Maybe more walkers, Tamiyo, the Moon Sage and what not.

This thread is a pretty cool idea. ^.^

Unfortunately, UW isn't really my thing.

Maybe Ephara, God of the Polis? You run a ton of flicker effects, and with top deck manipulation, you could set up one of your instant speed Miracles.

My problem with Entreat the Angels is that there is little use in a miracle card that puts creatures into play without haste. You have to depend on other cards like Akroma's Memorial, which is super hard to stick. It's a decent card to run to try to force an answer out but as a primary win condition it feels squishy. I'd rather play draw/go and run White Sun's Zenith.

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My problem with Entreat the Angels is that there is little use in a miracle card that puts creatures into play without haste. You have to depend on other cards like Akroma's Memorial, which is super hard to stick. It's a decent card to run to try to force an answer out but as a primary win condition it feels squishy. I'd rather play draw/go and run White Sun's Zenith.

It's really not hard to trigger EOT though, just need some draw, something as simple as Top.

5/16: Forgotten One's Uril, the Miststalker - http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/the-game/commander-edh/multiplayer-commander-decklists/545811-url-the-miststalker-enchantress

I'll make actual aura suggestions in the thread later tonight when I get home. I built an Uril deck years ago and have the decklist somewhere on the official forums. My deck was fairly similar, but I also ran a bunch of red extra combat cards, as well as a few different auras. And of course this list is missing the best backup Uril ever: Rabid Wombat.

For the Uril deck, I have found that Krond the Dawn-Clad is a fine backup aura-wearer, despite his color-intensive casting cost.

Unquestioned Authority is a fine aura for your team. Sphere of Safety and Fountain Watch for protection?

Prison Term has been a decent bit of temporary removal for me.

Cheers!

Battle Mastery this is the first Uril deck I have ever seen that doesn't have it. It needs it.

Side note will you be PMing who ever you pick for the random deck when you pick it or will I have to keep checking to make sure that I don't miss mine if it comes up.

I wouldn't play exploration without cards like life from the loam or crucible of worlds.

I'd like to try and stick 2-3 more ramp cards.

I'm not sure if I like those couple of cards that are just beaters when Uril is your main beater. I know that you shouldn't centralize too much around Uril, but you can get worldly tutor, eladamri's call, and so on in case Uril gets tucked.

Quote from Englishboi

Battle Mastery this is the first Uril deck I have ever seen that doesn't have it. It needs it.

Side note will you be PMing who ever you pick for the random deck when you pick it or will I have to keep checking to make sure that I don't miss mine if it comes up.

I make a post in the thread that has been chosen saying that it has and offering my advice

I'd slip an Abundance into this deck, both for it's digging power, and it's broken interaction with Sylvan Library. I also love Unquestioned Authority in aura-based enchantress decks, card advantage + evasion.

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5/16: Forgotten One's Uril, the Miststalker - http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/the-game/commander-edh/multiplayer-commander-decklists/545811-url-the-miststalker-enchantress

Thanks!

Quote from cryogen

I'll make actual aura suggestions in the thread later tonight when I get home. I built an Uril deck years ago and have the decklist somewhere on the official forums. My deck was fairly similar, but I also ran a bunch of red extra combat cards, as well as a few different auras. And of course this list is missing the best backup Uril ever: Rabid Wombat.

Rabid Wombat was the 2nd card put into the deck when I first made it, but I cut it after running the deck a few times and getting blown out by spot removal. I feel that in order to properly run Wombat, you need more auras that grant hexproof or allow for regeneration. I figured that it was easier to run cards like Sigarda, Host of Herons, Thrun, the Last Troll, and Troll Ascetic that had hexproof built-in and then run auras that had abilities that I wanted.

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For the Uril deck, I have found that Krond the Dawn-Clad is a fine backup aura-wearer, despite his color-intensive casting cost.

Unquestioned Authority is a fine aura for your team. Sphere of Safety and Fountain Watch for protection?

Prison Term has been a decent bit of temporary removal for me.

Cheers!

Krond seems like a great idea that will never pan out in practice. I tried to also keep 6-drops out of the picture, with Mana reflection and Eldrazi conscription being the only exceptions.

Unquestioned Authority seems like a very good idea. Sphere of Safety is a fine card, but this deck doesn't really want that kind of effect. I had Fountain Watch in the deck, but it came out for Asceticism when I realized that I needed creature protection over enchantment protection. Prison Term seems like a straight upgrade to Arrest, so I may make that swap. Great suggestions!

Quote from Englishboi

Battle Mastery this is the first Uril deck I have ever seen that doesn't have it. It needs it.

Side note will you be PMing who ever you pick for the random deck when you pick it or will I have to keep checking to make sure that I don't miss mine if it comes up.

This is why I asked because I KNOW I was missing some good auras. I will find room for this.

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I wouldn't play exploration without cards like life from the loam or crucible of worlds.

I'd like to try and stick 2-3 more ramp cards.

I'm not sure if I like those couple of cards that are just beaters when Uril is your main beater. I know that you shouldn't centralize too much around Uril, but you can get worldly tutor, eladamri's call, and so on in case Uril gets tucked.

Exploration is one of those cards that performs very well in a deck like this. It triggers all my Enchantresses and allows me to play out all the lands I draw off of those Enchantresses. When I played Legacy Enchantress, it was one of the best cards in the deck.

I'd love to play more ramp as well, but I found that just cutting almost everything 6 mana and up has led to better results. The Exploration, Utopia Sprawl, and Wild Growth are also acceleration, so I'm already running 8 (including the Sakura-Tribe Elder, Farseek, Rampant Growth, Cultivate and Kodama's Reach). I'd love to include a Solemn Simulacrum, Oracle of Mul Daya or Skyshroud Claim, but the deck just doesn't have space.

I guess I could swap out the trolls for creature tutors, but in general I'm not a fan of doing that.

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I'd slip an Abundance into this deck, both for it's digging power, and it's broken interaction with Sylvan Library. I also love Unquestioned Authority in aura-based enchantress decks, card advantage + evasion.

I like Abundance so I may have to try that (it may have just been cut for space). Someone else also suggested Unquestioned Authority, so I'll definitely have to find room.

So the one card that definitely needs to go in is Eidolon of Blossoms as another Enchantress effect. The other Constellation card that I've gotta try is Forgeborn Oreads; dealing damage for every Aura I play is exactly the kind of card this deck needs.

Thanks for all the suggestions everyone. I appreciate the input.

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I'd love to play more ramp as well, but I found that just cutting almost everything 6 mana and up has led to better results. The Exploration, Utopia Sprawl, and Wild Growth are also acceleration, so I'm already running 8 (including the Sakura-Tribe Elder, Farseek, Rampant Growth, Cultivate and Kodama's Reach). I'd love to include a Solemn Simulacrum, Oracle of Mul Daya or Skyshroud Claim, but the deck just doesn't have space.

I'd run Nature's Lore over Rampant Growth. I'd also try to find room for Three Visits (I'd probably cut Farseek). They get untapped dual lands.

The deck is missing Unquestioned Authority or Spirit Mantle. Unquestioned Authority on Uril makes one player immediately go on a three-turn clock. Indestructibility would also be nice, just to survive a Wrath.

Ok, so now that I'm home from work I had a chance to find my deck list. This is from two years ago, so it's slightly out of date, but here it is.

Creatures I'd add: Umbra Mystic, Fountain Watch
Auras I'd add: Spirit Mantle (already mentioned), Bestial Fury, Unquestioned Authority (already mentioned), Gift of Immortality
Other good enchantments: Sylvan Library, Khalni Heart Expedition, Enchantress's Presence, Aggravated Assault, Karmic Justice
Other spells: Seize the Day, Retether, Waves of Aggression

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I'd run Nature's Lore over Rampant Growth. I'd also try to find room for Three Visits (I'd probably cut Farseek). They get untapped dual lands.

They need to reprint Three Visits in the next Commander product release so that I can own one... Nature's Lore is a card that I forget even exists. I would make both of these changes for sure.

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The deck is missing Unquestioned Authority or Spirit Mantle. Unquestioned Authority on Uril makes one player immediately go on a three-turn clock. Indestructibility would also be nice, just to survive a Wrath.

Ok, I get it. Add Unquestioned Authority... done. I've never seen Spirit Mantle before. I might actually have one of those....

Quote from cryogen

Ok, so now that I'm home from work I had a chance to find my deck list. This is from two years ago, so it's slightly out of date, but here it is.

I'll definitely check out your list. Thanks for the link.

Creatures I'd add: Umbra Mystic, Fountain Watch
Auras I'd add: Spirit Mantle (already mentioned), Bestial Fury, Unquestioned Authority (already mentioned), Gift of Immortality

Umbra Mystic - I like this one. Totem Armor is pretty boss. I'll try it out.
Fountain Watch - Like I said, I've had this in the deck before. It was always just okay and never really that spectacular.
Bestial Fury - Not good enough in my opinion. The fact that it cantrips is nice, but I don't like that the effect only happens when its blocked.
Gift of Immortality - This one is a possibility.

I guess for Auras, it all depends really on how many you are really want to pack into the deck. The deck you posted runs 16 where I have 14.

Other good enchantments: Sylvan Library, Khalni Heart Expedition, Enchantress's Presence, Aggravated Assault, Karmic Justice
Other spells: Seize the Day, Retether, Waves of Aggression

I'm already running Sylvan Library and Enchantress's Presence. I never leave home without those...

Khalni Heart Expedition is a good idea, but I'm wondering if it is better than Cultivate or Kodama's Reach. I'm also currently only running 4 Fetches, so I'd have to rework the mana a little bit.

Aggravated Assault just seems really expensive to get the effect. How does his card perform IRL?

Karmic Justice is pretty awesome. I need to add that to my Obzedat deck... if I have room here, it seems like something worth including.

Bestial Fury: D you want to take the full blunt of my giant commander, or block and boost him even more and STILL take damage?
Aggravated Assault: Meh on its own, broken with Bear Umbra.

Quote from cryogen

Bestial Fury: D you want to take the full blunt of my giant commander, or block and boost him even more and STILL take damage?

Card seems worse than Vow of Wildness - you'd rather have Vow if they don't block, and if they do block it's pretty much the same, plus Vow has the random usage of enchanting someone else's creature.

EDIT: When I wrote this post, I wasn't paying attn to the fact the Fury draws you a card.