MTG Salvation

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There is also some level of concern that my current LGS plays on Wednesdays. My wife is a pastor and Wednesdays tend to be a busy day for her so once we do have kids, I might not be able to get away especially on the day they play.

Right now its great in that she is booked already so I would otherwise be sitting at home alone most of the night so me running off to play is no big deal.

Tell her to give up church.

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There is also some level of concern that my current LGS plays on Wednesdays. My wife is a pastor and Wednesdays tend to be a busy day for her so once we do have kids, I might not be able to get away especially on the day they play.

Right now its great in that she is booked already so I would otherwise be sitting at home alone most of the night so me running off to play is no big deal.

You could also make friends there in the meantime and maybe they'd be up for going to your place to play sometime. That's what I did towards the end of my paper run.

Oh yay, another chance to reprint shocklands. Yawn.

There's a pretty good track record for Rav blocks so I'm not too heartbroken about going back. Worst case, we pick up another cycle of generals for the enemy combos (and another Dimir mill general).

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(and another Dimir mill general).

Jivan will be so happy.

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There's a pretty good track record for Rav blocks so I'm not too heartbroken about going back. Worst case, we pick up another cycle of generals for the enemy combos (and another Dimir mill general).

Honestly I found the last return to rav to be underwhelming. They brought back shocks...... and beyond that I would have trouble naming 5 cards worth mentioning. It had a few legends that are ok but ultimately it seemed like a set that was not very noteworthy to me and I played standard through the block.

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Honestly I found the last return to rav to be underwhelming. They brought back shocks...... and beyond that I would have trouble naming 5 cards worth mentioning. It had a few legends that are ok but ultimately it seemed like a set that was not very noteworthy to me and I played standard through the block.

Deathrite Shaman and Abrupt Decay are both format defining cards for other formats and EDH playable. Supreme Verdict, Sphinx's Revelation, Voice of Resurgence, Cyclonic Rift, Vandalblast, Chromatic Lantern, Crypt Ghast, Boros Charm, and Rest in Peace are all very solid EDH cards (if a little meta dependent for some). Aurelia, the Warleader and Prime Speaker Zegana are reasonably common generals and fixtures in the 99 of a lot of decks. There are another 4-6 generals that I still see on a regular basis. There are an easy dozen more cards that see niche play. DGM may have been a pretty bad set outside of Voice unless you're one of the people who likes playing Maze's End, but the block on the whole added a lot to the format.

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Deathrite Shaman and Abrupt Decay are both format defining cards for other formats and EDH playable. Supreme Verdict, Sphinx's Revelation, Voice of Resurgence, Cyclonic Rift, Vandalblast, Chromatic Lantern, Crypt Ghast, Boros Charm, and Rest in Peace are all very solid EDH cards (if a little meta dependent for some). Aurelia, the Warleader and Prime Speaker Zegana are reasonably common generals and fixtures in the 99 of a lot of decks. There are another 4-6 generals that I still see on a regular basis. There are an easy dozen more cards that see niche play. DGM may have been a pretty bad set outside of Voice unless you're one of the people who likes playing Maze's End, but the block on the whole added a lot to the format.

Yea.... I heard Cyclonic Rift / Crypt Ghast out of that.

A few of those cards are playable in commander still but.... ehhhh. There is nothing wrong with Wrath of God but its not particularly great. So if you actually have issues landing wraths Supreme is ok but shy of that.... meh.

Vandalblast - its a good card at what it does, its just a question of if paying 5 mana and giving up a card is worth how narrow it can be at times. Its so powerful but it also asks the question of how often you are getting a heap of artifacts with this card and or that the artifacts are the problem you need to answer. Its powerful, just not flexible.

Chromatic Lantern - this card is almost entirely a budget card. If you have a good landbase its almost always just a bad stone. The worst part of it is that its not that cheap to buy and yet it still is not that good of a card lol.

Boros Charm - I have yet to ever see a deck I have felt this card belongs in for commander. Great modern card I guess though.

Rest in Peace - its a great card, the question is if you have enough draw and are not using the grave enough to worry about this yourself. Too often I find that I use my graveyard or that I don't have enough draw to run it.

Abrupt Decay - it gets better when playing in metas with more combo. Its still a good card, but I actually don't believe I have seen anyone play it in commander to date. It doesn't help that I essentially never play GB.

Deathrite Shaman - it can be good.... but its slow and fragile. In slower battlecruiser decks it feels not great so it seems to fit more into a faster type of commander or in formats that have essentially all banned it.

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Really I think of RTR and its like..... Cyclonic was there...... the end.

Ur rong

Eleven out of EDHREC's top 100 cards (which I think is tied to % inclusion in decks in the card's colors) came from RTR block - Cyclonic Rift (2), Supreme Verdict (18), Merciless Eviction (20), Boros Charm (32), Vandalblast (52), Chromatic Lantern (53), Deathrite Shaman (59), Prime Speaker Zegana (83), Aurelia, the Warleader (84), Rakdos Charm (88), and Assemble the Legion (90). I don't really want to count every card there to confirm, but a quick skim through looks like the only block with more cards on that list is the original RAV block, thanks in large part to the Signets. You may not like them personally, possibly because you play a lot of monocolor decks and Ravnica is a terrible setting for those, but the sets objectively had an outsized impact on EDH.

Also you should definitely try out Boros Charm if you're ever in the colors. It's usually one of the first cards I slot into RWx lists and almost always serves a use when I draw it.

Ravnica is cool, most probably they'll **** it somewhere in the middle of the second set. I admit that I am salty for getting just one set for Dominaria. SO SALTY.

Maybe I'm crazy, but I suspect shocklands won't be reprinted in the upcoming Ravnica sets. Their market prices are still very reasonable (making shocklands a great speculative reprint further down the road, perhaps for some future Masters set), and the shocks were already reprinted the last time we visited Ravnica. Instead, I think Wizards is going to take this opportunity to print some new cycle of dual lands. Doing so would excite the playerbase (no shocks in Ravnica? Outrageous!) whereas I think the response to another reprint of shocks would be muted.

In order to keep Modern alive, you need to keep shocks and fetches cheap. I would think Wizards will want them to stay in the $10-15 range.

I am alright with returning to Ravnica (again), but not extremely excited. I feel like we have just been there and have plenty of cool cards in the guild colors already. If we are getting a multicolor block with a returning world, I would have celebrated a return to Alara and its shards a lot more.

It has been around 5 years in between RTR and this new Ravnica.

By comparison it was six years in between Mirrodin and Scars and only three and a half years between Innistrad and Shadows.

I think this amount of time is reasonable. I do know that this is the only return set where the players from the RTR boom were present for both sets, so therefore it may "feel" like it is too soon for some.

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Vandalblast - its a good card at what it does, its just a question of if paying 5 mana and giving up a card is worth how narrow it can be at times. Its so powerful but it also asks the question of how often you are getting a heap of artifacts with this card and or that the artifacts are the problem you need to answer. Its powerful, just not flexible.

I feel like you're forgetting that this can be cast for 1 mana to blow up an artifact if you don't need to nuke the board.

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I feel like you're forgetting that this can be cast for 1 mana to blow up an artifact if you don't need to nuke the board.

Sort of like people always forget Cyclonic Rift doesn't actually cost 7 mana.


I don't care what anyone says about RtRtR block. I'm going to enjoy an entire year of sitting on my porch and complaining about everything.

I just don't find Ravnica to be all that compelling of a block either. We just got Dominaria and it was really cool and when I compare what we got in that one set to what we got from 3 sets of RTR I find myself wishing we were not going to spend so much time going back to ravnica.

As a random side note I finally brought myself to buying some new stuffs for my computer. I am finally getting a mousepad (I have not had one the past 3 years) and I sprung for a XXXL pad to see how having room and a pad feels. It has been several years now but I bought a gaming keypad as I want to see how it might work on a FPS game. Wayyyy back I used a gaming keypad back when I used to play wow and it was very useful for giving me access and less fumbling about than I have on a keyboard.

I attached a picture of the one I bought for reference (and for those who don't know what I am talking about).

i'd just like them to reprint some of the fetches.....

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i'd just like them to reprint some of the fetches.....

Finish the slow fetch cycle, dammit.

TNN is a head scratching reprint in Battlebond.

Me: I name Opponent A. <attacks opponent team>
Opponent B: I block TNN with my creature.
Me: This did not work out as planned.

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TNN is a head scratching reprint in Battlebond.

Me: I name Opponent A. <attacks opponent team>
Opponent B: I block TNN with my creature.
Me: This did not work out as planned.

Yea.....................................

Seems purely like a money grab. This is not the product for that card.

It's a blatant cash grab. I'll be buying a box.

well, it should drive down the price same with the land tax reprint..dat art....

This seems like a great product for TNN. It's too good for 1v1 limited formats and not good enough for/unfun in free for all multiplayer formats. 2HG means it's powerful without being unbeatable. The worst thing I can say about its inclusion is that it might have been safe at rare.