So, I'm super giddy about Llanowar Tribe. Tapping for three unconditionally on 3-drop is completely unheard of. Hell, with the exception of Thran Dynamo, you can't tap for three unconditionally on a 4-drop either. If you can cast this card, it is undoubtedly one of the best at ramping period.
Maybe in other formats but i would not run it in EDH. I feel there are so many good green ramp that a 3 drop is just not worth it. Now if you are ramping a three drop for more mana, different story. (like braid of fire a two drop that grants you extra mana every turn, sure only on your upkeep, but you are in red. Cast a comet storm with that extra mana, pay for upkeep costs...)
Hard disagree here. Outside of elf tribal, 3 mana ramp 3 is unheard of efficiency.
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So, I'm super giddy about Llanowar Tribe. Tapping for three unconditionally on 3-drop is completely unheard of. Hell, with the exception of Thran Dynamo, you can't tap for three unconditionally on a 4-drop either. If you can cast this card, it is undoubtedly one of the best at ramping period.
Maybe in other formats but i would not run it in EDH. I feel there are so many good green ramp that a 3 drop is just not worth it. Now if you are ramping a three drop for more mana, different story. (like braid of fire a two drop that grants you extra mana every turn, sure only on your upkeep, but you are in red. Cast a comet storm with that extra mana, pay for upkeep costs...)
Hard disagree here. Outside of elf tribal, 3 mana ramp 3 is unheard of efficiency.
even elf tribal is kind of bleh. If it allowed other elevens to tap for 3 different story. It's GGG to cast not 2G or even 1GG. I just feel it is bad overall in edh. Leave it in limited where it belongs.
Tribute mage is a dramatic scepter's best friend. ALSO, the reveal of a permanent green staple. If you've even run somberwald sage, the tribe is undoubtedly better.
Honestly i'm not too excited about this set. Looks like it give some new toys to already established decks without creating something new.
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How i feel about competitive players and casual players in EDH: The competitive are german tourists, the casual are italian tourists, both in a italian beach. The italians asking themselves "why are the germans here?" make a legitimate question, the answer is because the beach is beautiful, no matter the country you came from. The italians wanting to ban the germans are dumb, because if the germans pay for their stay and follow the rules like everyone else, they have the right to be in the beach. Hovewer, if the germans started to ask themselves "why are the italians here?"... they would be dumb as hell.
But Heliod's hall is real, so that gem is gonna git got.
EDIT: The big boi is real! And I'm quite excited for Tectonic Revelation, too. Maybe this is what Boros gets. You want to be playing Land Tax anyway for draw in those colors, so this helps so much! Also something like Leave // Chance get a boost! Basically it's Reprocess/God-Eternal Bontu, but that's a good thing!
Honestly i'm not too excited about this set. Looks like it give some new toys to already established decks without creating something new.
I don't agree. There's lots of exciting cards and interesting enablers. Giving an Astral Slide deck another Astral Slide is something new because it's hardly established and needing a redundant copy of an important effect is essential for even considering building a deck in the first place.
Do you think he's a good commander, or better off in 99 of something like Sidisi, Brood Tyrant?
Hard to see anything that's just a fat beater being a great commander tbh.
I think my favorite place for him would probably be something like Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord, which can take advantage of his recastability, and get more value from his high power than simply swinging at once person at a time. Having a sac outlet in the CZ also reduces the risk of him getting exiled. Also Sidisi is also probably a reasonable spot since she fuels graves and makes tokens. I just don't see her having as much need of a big fat dummy.
Hard to see anything that's just a fat beater being a great commander tbh.
I think my favorite place for him would probably be something like Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord, which can take advantage of his recastability, and get more value from his high power than simply swinging at once person at a time. Having a sac outlet in the CZ also reduces the risk of him getting exiled. Also Sidisi is also probably a reasonable spot since she fuels graves and makes tokens. I just don't see her having as much need of a big fat dummy.
Hmm, ya maybe Jarad would be better and I agree its a bad commander
I wonder though if a free big dumb beater is fairly desirable in Sidisi . Like if you put him plus Bloodghast, Prized Amalgam, Vengevine, Narcomoeba, Nether Shadow etc, does it become more interesting in the context of a free dredge army?
I don't agree. There's lots of exciting cards and interesting enablers. Giving an Astral Slide deck another Astral Slide is something new because it's hardly established and needing a redundant copy of an important effect is essential for even considering building a deck in the first place.
Meh, why they dind't print a cycling legend then instead of pentacolor sliver #23235755 or a stronger sisay?
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How i feel about competitive players and casual players in EDH: The competitive are german tourists, the casual are italian tourists, both in a italian beach. The italians asking themselves "why are the germans here?" make a legitimate question, the answer is because the beach is beautiful, no matter the country you came from. The italians wanting to ban the germans are dumb, because if the germans pay for their stay and follow the rules like everyone else, they have the right to be in the beach. Hovewer, if the germans started to ask themselves "why are the italians here?"... they would be dumb as hell.
Jeez, Mirrodin Besieged seems like a card people will complain about. Wins out of nowhere. I think it's a cool card though.
Faerie Seer Yuriko gets so much love this set, almost sad I took it apart. This is exactly what that deck wants.
Everdream Nice. Nice nice nice nice. Is it great? Nah. Is it my type of card? You betcha. Into Arixmethes you go.
Marit Lage's Slumber I think it's a really cool card but honestly, I don't think it's good enough to play. I feel like it will scare people too much and in monoblue or Ux where I can afford to run snow lands in abundance there's just better options for card filtering. It might be a decent budget option though, which s always good.
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UG Arixmethes Combo UGR Wanderer UGB Tasigur Control URB Jeleva Storm RW Gisela Control
Marit Lage's Slumber I think it's a really cool card but honestly, I don't think it's good enough to play. I feel like it will scare people too much and in monoblue or Ux where I can afford to run snow lands in abundance there's just better options for card filtering. It might be a decent budget option though, which s always good.
I would run it. If it is good enough to run but not worry about, run it. At the very least it will eat removal. I can even begin to list the amount of times Draco ate removal for me.
Everdream is some spicy, spicy goodness for Phelddagrif. It's gonna take a long time to do the updates for this set. We got new lands, new removal, new counters, new value engines...we've really got it all. Couldn't be happier as far as my hippo master is concerned.
Hard disagree here. Outside of elf tribal, 3 mana ramp 3 is unheard of efficiency.
Tribute Mage is amazing.
(U/B)(U/B)(U/B) JUMP IN THE LINE, ROCK YOUR BODY IN TIME
(R/W)(R/W)(R/W) RISING FROM THE NEON GLOOM, SHINING LIKE A CRAZY MOON
(U/R)(R/G)(G/U) STEALIN' WHEN I SHOULD HAVE BEEN BUYIN'
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BChainer, Dementia Master(Big Mana/Reanimator)
BRRakdos, The Showstopper (Mass Life Loss/Ramp)
BUThe Scarab God (Zombie Tribal/Control)
BWKarlov of the Ghost Council (Life Gain)
BGJarad, Golgari Lich Lord (Stompy/Dredge)
BRGProssh, Skyraider of Kher (Tokens/Non-infinite Combo)
But Heliod's hall is real, so that gem is gonna git got.
EDIT: The big boi is real! And I'm quite excited for Tectonic Revelation, too. Maybe this is what Boros gets. You want to be playing Land Tax anyway for draw in those colors, so this helps so much! Also something like Leave // Chance get a boost! Basically it's Reprocess/God-Eternal Bontu, but that's a good thing!
(U/B)(U/B)(U/B) JUMP IN THE LINE, ROCK YOUR BODY IN TIME
(R/W)(R/W)(R/W) RISING FROM THE NEON GLOOM, SHINING LIKE A CRAZY MOON
(U/R)(R/G)(G/U) STEALIN' WHEN I SHOULD HAVE BEEN BUYIN'
EDIT:Hall of Heliod's Generosity makes me consider rebuilding my Enduring Ideal deck
UGR Wanderer
UGB Tasigur Control
URB Jeleva Storm
RW Gisela Control
Of course it won't matter much since he'll usually be cast from the grave unless he gets exiled somehow.
EDH Primers
Phelddagrif - Zirilan
EDH
Thrasios+Bruse - Pang - Sasaya - Wydwen - Feather - Rona - Toshiro - Sylvia+Khorvath - Geth - QMarchesa - Firesong - Athreos - Arixmethes - Isperia - Etali - Silas+Sidar - Saskia - Virtus+Gorm - Kynaios - Naban - Aryel - Mizzix - Kazuul - Tymna+Kraum - Sidar+Tymna - Ayli - Gwendlyn - Phelddagrif 4 - Liliana - Kaervek - Phelddagrif 3 - Mairsil - Scarab - Child - Phenax - Shirei - Thada - Depala - Circu - Kytheon - GrenzoHR - Phelddagrif - Reyhan+Kraum - Toshiro - Varolz - Nin - Ojutai - Tasigur - Zedruu - Uril - Edric - Wort - Zurgo - Nahiri - Grenzo - Kozilek - Yisan - Ink-Treader - Yisan - Brago - Sidisi - Toshiro - Alexi - Sygg - Brimaz - Sek'Kuar - Marchesa - Vish Kal - Iroas - Phelddagrif - Ephara - Derevi - Glissa - Wanderer - Saffi - Melek - Xiahou Dun - Lazav - Lin Sivvi - Zirilan - Glissa
PDH - Drake - Graverobber - Izzet GM - Tallowisp - Symbiote Brawl - Feather - Ugin - Jace - Scarab - Angrath - Vraska - Kumena Oathbreaker - Wrenn&6
BChainer, Dementia Master(Big Mana/Reanimator)
BRRakdos, The Showstopper (Mass Life Loss/Ramp)
BUThe Scarab God (Zombie Tribal/Control)
BWKarlov of the Ghost Council (Life Gain)
BGJarad, Golgari Lich Lord (Stompy/Dredge)
BRGProssh, Skyraider of Kher (Tokens/Non-infinite Combo)
I don't agree. There's lots of exciting cards and interesting enablers. Giving an Astral Slide deck another Astral Slide is something new because it's hardly established and needing a redundant copy of an important effect is essential for even considering building a deck in the first place.
He's a very weak commander since he's just a beater and not even faster than Ghalta.
I think my favorite place for him would probably be something like Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord, which can take advantage of his recastability, and get more value from his high power than simply swinging at once person at a time. Having a sac outlet in the CZ also reduces the risk of him getting exiled. Also Sidisi is also probably a reasonable spot since she fuels graves and makes tokens. I just don't see her having as much need of a big fat dummy.
EDH Primers
Phelddagrif - Zirilan
EDH
Thrasios+Bruse - Pang - Sasaya - Wydwen - Feather - Rona - Toshiro - Sylvia+Khorvath - Geth - QMarchesa - Firesong - Athreos - Arixmethes - Isperia - Etali - Silas+Sidar - Saskia - Virtus+Gorm - Kynaios - Naban - Aryel - Mizzix - Kazuul - Tymna+Kraum - Sidar+Tymna - Ayli - Gwendlyn - Phelddagrif 4 - Liliana - Kaervek - Phelddagrif 3 - Mairsil - Scarab - Child - Phenax - Shirei - Thada - Depala - Circu - Kytheon - GrenzoHR - Phelddagrif - Reyhan+Kraum - Toshiro - Varolz - Nin - Ojutai - Tasigur - Zedruu - Uril - Edric - Wort - Zurgo - Nahiri - Grenzo - Kozilek - Yisan - Ink-Treader - Yisan - Brago - Sidisi - Toshiro - Alexi - Sygg - Brimaz - Sek'Kuar - Marchesa - Vish Kal - Iroas - Phelddagrif - Ephara - Derevi - Glissa - Wanderer - Saffi - Melek - Xiahou Dun - Lazav - Lin Sivvi - Zirilan - Glissa
PDH - Drake - Graverobber - Izzet GM - Tallowisp - Symbiote Brawl - Feather - Ugin - Jace - Scarab - Angrath - Vraska - Kumena Oathbreaker - Wrenn&6
I wonder though if a free big dumb beater is fairly desirable in Sidisi . Like if you put him plus Bloodghast, Prized Amalgam, Vengevine, Narcomoeba, Nether Shadow etc, does it become more interesting in the context of a free dredge army?
BChainer, Dementia Master(Big Mana/Reanimator)
BRRakdos, The Showstopper (Mass Life Loss/Ramp)
BUThe Scarab God (Zombie Tribal/Control)
BWKarlov of the Ghost Council (Life Gain)
BGJarad, Golgari Lich Lord (Stompy/Dredge)
BRGProssh, Skyraider of Kher (Tokens/Non-infinite Combo)
Finally, something for Erebos!
[Primer] Erebos, God of the Dead
HONK HONK
Meh, why they dind't print a cycling legend then instead of pentacolor sliver #23235755 or a stronger sisay?
now I really want to build a persistent petitioners deck....Never mind..I really should read the card more carefully...but it's still gonna be bonkers...
Faerie Seer Yuriko gets so much love this set, almost sad I took it apart. This is exactly what that deck wants.
Everdream Nice. Nice nice nice nice. Is it great? Nah. Is it my type of card? You betcha. Into Arixmethes you go.
Marit Lage's Slumber I think it's a really cool card but honestly, I don't think it's good enough to play. I feel like it will scare people too much and in monoblue or Ux where I can afford to run snow lands in abundance there's just better options for card filtering. It might be a decent budget option though, which s always good.
UGR Wanderer
UGB Tasigur Control
URB Jeleva Storm
RW Gisela Control
I would run it. If it is good enough to run but not worry about, run it. At the very least it will eat removal. I can even begin to list the amount of times Draco ate removal for me.
EDH Primers
Phelddagrif - Zirilan
EDH
Thrasios+Bruse - Pang - Sasaya - Wydwen - Feather - Rona - Toshiro - Sylvia+Khorvath - Geth - QMarchesa - Firesong - Athreos - Arixmethes - Isperia - Etali - Silas+Sidar - Saskia - Virtus+Gorm - Kynaios - Naban - Aryel - Mizzix - Kazuul - Tymna+Kraum - Sidar+Tymna - Ayli - Gwendlyn - Phelddagrif 4 - Liliana - Kaervek - Phelddagrif 3 - Mairsil - Scarab - Child - Phenax - Shirei - Thada - Depala - Circu - Kytheon - GrenzoHR - Phelddagrif - Reyhan+Kraum - Toshiro - Varolz - Nin - Ojutai - Tasigur - Zedruu - Uril - Edric - Wort - Zurgo - Nahiri - Grenzo - Kozilek - Yisan - Ink-Treader - Yisan - Brago - Sidisi - Toshiro - Alexi - Sygg - Brimaz - Sek'Kuar - Marchesa - Vish Kal - Iroas - Phelddagrif - Ephara - Derevi - Glissa - Wanderer - Saffi - Melek - Xiahou Dun - Lazav - Lin Sivvi - Zirilan - Glissa
PDH - Drake - Graverobber - Izzet GM - Tallowisp - Symbiote Brawl - Feather - Ugin - Jace - Scarab - Angrath - Vraska - Kumena Oathbreaker - Wrenn&6
I'm looking forward to adding it to my Niv-Mizzet Reborn deck, which has ETB & blink as subthemes.
Trap your friends in an endless game with this 23-card combo!
In most ways, yes, but the Closet allows you to turn temporary theft effects into permanent theft.