Oh, sorry. Maybe I was sloppy with my words. What I meant was that commanders with death triggers aren't really a good combination since you obviously can't trigger their ability if you put them back in the command zone.
Only really a problem if you're not in black. Black can stuff in enough reanimation that it's not an issue.
And what is up with the creature types in Simic?!?!? PSV is an Elf Ooze Wizard, Hydroid Krasis is a Jellyfish Hydra Beast, and Growth-Chamber Guardian is an Elf Crab Warrior.... it's like they were playing the Impossible Creature Type game, or using a dart board to choose creature types
New Teysa is definitely the card that I want to build around the most for a new deck, but Vannifar is just nuts; she'll definitely go into my Toolbox Jenara, "Search my Deck Tribal" list.
while Rakdos, the Showstopper is not a S tier card i do think you guys are underrating him a little bit
first off this is certainly the closet we have come to demon tribal without the use of Kaalia of the Vast and certainly much more useful than Rakdos the Defiler since you dont need to sac anything per attack
secondly the boardwipe is useful since demon tribal is focused on sacrfice and stuff dying and can get death trigger stuff and also you can actually kill cards like Porgentius and true-name nemesis if your the chosen player since it doesnt target with the board wipe
and also Krark's Thumb pretty much 3/4 chance you can manipulate of what dies or not
while Rakdos, the Showstopper is not a S tier card i do think you guys are underrating him a little bit
first off this is certainly the closet we have come to demon tribal without the use of Kaalia of the Vast and certainly much more useful than Rakdos the Defiler since you dont need to sac anything per attack
secondly the boardwipe is useful since demon tribal is focused on sacrfice and stuff dying and can get death trigger stuff and also you can actually kill cards like Porgentius and true-name nemesis if your the chosen player since it doesnt target with the board wipe
and also Krark's Thumb pretty much 3/4 chance you can manipulate of what dies or not
Good point on killing things otherwise untouchable by Rakdos, protection and hexproof could save those creatures. A demon/devil/imp deck with Burning Sands will be fun.
It hasn't been 24 hours since the preview and I managed to make myself already sick of Vannifar combined with Lightning Greaves and Intruder Alarm just by thinking about it (and with the fast mana we have it's T2 possible in christmasland, so hasty Blightsteel with a dozen ETB and/or death triggers T2 is now a possible reality.)
I'm a whole lot more excited about Wilderness Reclamation than most, I may have found a linchpin that would assist Freyalise greatly ever since I've decided to adopt stax to both assist the deck's tokens and fill the deck quality, all because I decided it can't have creature cards at all (which also meant no Seedborn Muse).
Smothering Tithe is pretty sweet, and it is really cool to see WotC look at in-color-pie out-of-the-box ways to help white decks keep up in Commander.
Guardian Project is also pretty cool, giving green decks even more ways to generate card advantage that is also in-flavor with what green is all about.
I’m digging this set more and more, even with the less than inspiring mechanics. The individual cards that they have made are really good and open up some good options.
Smothering Tithe is a fantastic card, not only for mono W decks. Also Wilderness Reclamation will go to any G based deck since it only has one colored mana symbol.
Most importantly, I want to make a demon Deck with Rakdos, the Partypooper with demons and all the rakdos random stuff yelling ENTERTAIN ME each turn.
Smothering Tithe might go well together with Mind's Eye, whenever an opponent draws a card and don't pay 2, you get the mana needed for a card yourself.
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I was loving this set until vannifar, now I'm just going to jam pithing needle and its equivalents for the next 3 months because herp-derp, the things birthing pod really needed were to be legendary and without an real activation cost.
Hey, I'm fine with Cedh players getting their due, but this is puuuuuuuuuuuushed. The only consolation is that Vannifar will have about the same weaknesses as a Yisan deck (albeit with countermagic). Gross.
Now that you say it, that card really breaks symmetries in decks that gives everyone cards, it can go more crazy with wheel effects like Windfall and Magus of the Wheel
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A lot of interesting EDH cards in this set as a whole except, disappointingly for me, that dragon. I guess it's law that most dragons need to be standard finishers now?
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I like Rakdos, the Showstopper. He's less powerful and interesting than Rakdos, Lord of Riots but significantly better and more fun for Demon Tribal than Rakdos, the Defiler.
Otherwise today we've gotten a lot of mythics that don't feel mythic.
RCRDaretti: Superfriends Forever RCR
WGBDoran: Ent-mootWBG
GGGMultani: Group Bear HugGGG
GB(B/G)The Gitrog Monster: Dredgefall DurdleGB(B/G)
RGWGahiji, the Honored Group Hug MonsterRGW
UB(U/B)Yuriko, Ninja Trinket AggroUB(U/B)
WUBRGAtogatog: Assembling a OHKOWUBRG
(U/B)(U/B)(U/B) JUMP IN THE LINE, ROCK YOUR BODY IN TIME
(R/W)(R/W)(R/W) RISING FROM THE NEON GLOOM, SHINING LIKE A CRAZY MOON
(U/R)(R/G)(G/U) STEALIN' WHEN I SHOULD HAVE BEEN BUYIN'
And what is up with the creature types in Simic?!?!? PSV is an Elf Ooze Wizard, Hydroid Krasis is a Jellyfish Hydra Beast, and Growth-Chamber Guardian is an Elf Crab Warrior.... it's like they were playing the Impossible Creature Type game, or using a dart board to choose creature types
Jalira, Master Polymorphist | Endrek Sahr, Master Breeder | Bosh, Iron Golem | Ezuri, Renegade Leader
Brago, King Eternal | Oona, Queen of the Fae | Wort, Boggart Auntie | Wort, the Raidmother
Captain Sisay | Rhys, the Redeemed | Trostani, Selesnya's Voice | Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight | Obzedat, Ghost Council | Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind | Vorel of the Hull Clade
Uril, the Miststalker | Prossh, Skyraider of Kher | Nicol Bolas | Progenitus
Ghave, Guru of Spores | Zedruu the Greathearted | Damia, Sage of Stone | Riku of Two Reflections
Teysa is also great.
EDH:
G[cEDH] Selvala, Heart of the StormG
URW[cEDH] Narset, the Last AirmericanURW
GWUSt. Jenara, the ArchangelGWU
UBGrimgrin, Chaos MarineUB
GOmnath, Mana BaronG
URWNarset, Justice League AmericaURW
GWUBAtraxa, Countess of CountersGWUB
GWUEstrid, Enbantress PrimeGWU
Shu Yun, the Silent Tempest WUR Voltron Control
Temmet, Vizier of Naktamun WU Unblockable Mirror Trickery
Ra's al Ghul (Sidar Kondo) and Face-Down Ninjas
Brudiclad, Token Engineer
Vaevictis (VV2) the Dire Lantern
Rona, Disciple of Gix
Tiana the Auror
Hallar
Ulrich the Politician
Zur the Rebel
Scorpion, Locust, Scarab, Egyptian Gods
O-Kagachi, Mathas, Mairsil
"Non-Tribal" Tribal Generals, Eggs
High Alert seems perfect for Arcades, the Strategist Defender Tribal decks as some additional redundancy to Arcades and Assault Formation or Rolling Stones.
Pestilent Spirit seems perfect for Zurgo Helmsmasher Mass-Burn decks as a way to clear the path for Zurgo without having to pay too much on your Earthquake spells.
Jalira, Master Polymorphist | Endrek Sahr, Master Breeder | Bosh, Iron Golem | Ezuri, Renegade Leader
Brago, King Eternal | Oona, Queen of the Fae | Wort, Boggart Auntie | Wort, the Raidmother
Captain Sisay | Rhys, the Redeemed | Trostani, Selesnya's Voice | Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight | Obzedat, Ghost Council | Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind | Vorel of the Hull Clade
Uril, the Miststalker | Prossh, Skyraider of Kher | Nicol Bolas | Progenitus
Ghave, Guru of Spores | Zedruu the Greathearted | Damia, Sage of Stone | Riku of Two Reflections
first off this is certainly the closet we have come to demon tribal without the use of Kaalia of the Vast and certainly much more useful than Rakdos the Defiler since you dont need to sac anything per attack
secondly the boardwipe is useful since demon tribal is focused on sacrfice and stuff dying and can get death trigger stuff and also you can actually kill cards like Porgentius and true-name nemesis if your the chosen player since it doesnt target with the board wipe
and also Krark's Thumb pretty much 3/4 chance you can manipulate of what dies or not
Good point on killing things otherwise untouchable by Rakdos, protection and hexproof could save those creatures. A demon/devil/imp deck with Burning Sands will be fun.
Shu Yun, the Silent Tempest WUR Voltron Control
Temmet, Vizier of Naktamun WU Unblockable Mirror Trickery
Ra's al Ghul (Sidar Kondo) and Face-Down Ninjas
Brudiclad, Token Engineer
Vaevictis (VV2) the Dire Lantern
Rona, Disciple of Gix
Tiana the Auror
Hallar
Ulrich the Politician
Zur the Rebel
Scorpion, Locust, Scarab, Egyptian Gods
O-Kagachi, Mathas, Mairsil
"Non-Tribal" Tribal Generals, Eggs
Pioneer:UR Pheonix
Modern:U Mono U Tron
EDH
GB Glissa, the traitor: Army of Cans
UW Dragonlord Ojutai: Dragonlord NOjutai
UWGDerevi, Empyrial Tactician "you cannot fight the storm"
R Zirilan of the claw. The solution to every problem is dragons
UB Etrata, the Silencer Cloning assassination
Peasant cube: Cards I own
I'm a whole lot more excited about Wilderness Reclamation than most, I may have found a linchpin that would assist Freyalise greatly ever since I've decided to adopt stax to both assist the deck's tokens and fill the deck quality, all because I decided it can't have creature cards at all (which also meant no Seedborn Muse).
The Unidentified Fantastic Flying Girl.
EDH
Xenagos, the God of Stompy
The Gitrog Monster: Oppressive Value.
Marchesa, Marionette Master - Undying Robots
Yuriko, the Hydra Omnivore
I make dolls as a hobby.
I knew if WotC is willing, they could easily create cards of any kind of advantage without breaking color pie.
Now add Blinkmoth Urn for even more mana.
Shu Yun, the Silent Tempest WUR Voltron Control
Temmet, Vizier of Naktamun WU Unblockable Mirror Trickery
Ra's al Ghul (Sidar Kondo) and Face-Down Ninjas
Brudiclad, Token Engineer
Vaevictis (VV2) the Dire Lantern
Rona, Disciple of Gix
Tiana the Auror
Hallar
Ulrich the Politician
Zur the Rebel
Scorpion, Locust, Scarab, Egyptian Gods
O-Kagachi, Mathas, Mairsil
"Non-Tribal" Tribal Generals, Eggs
Guardian Project is also pretty cool, giving green decks even more ways to generate card advantage that is also in-flavor with what green is all about.
I’m digging this set more and more, even with the less than inspiring mechanics. The individual cards that they have made are really good and open up some good options.
Jalira, Master Polymorphist | Endrek Sahr, Master Breeder | Bosh, Iron Golem | Ezuri, Renegade Leader
Brago, King Eternal | Oona, Queen of the Fae | Wort, Boggart Auntie | Wort, the Raidmother
Captain Sisay | Rhys, the Redeemed | Trostani, Selesnya's Voice | Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight | Obzedat, Ghost Council | Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind | Vorel of the Hull Clade
Uril, the Miststalker | Prossh, Skyraider of Kher | Nicol Bolas | Progenitus
Ghave, Guru of Spores | Zedruu the Greathearted | Damia, Sage of Stone | Riku of Two Reflections
Most importantly, I want to make a demon Deck with Rakdos, the Partypooper with demons and all the rakdos random stuff yelling ENTERTAIN ME each turn.
Marath, Will of the Wild
Friendly Kess Twin Combo
Tatyova - Sir Bounce A Lot
Gonti's Luxury Pie
Prime (Eldrazi) Speaker Zegana (Retired)
BGU Sidisi, Brood Tyrant - Lurking Zombies.
GBG Sapling of Colfenor - Forest Growth and Destruction.
RWU Zedruu the Greathearted - Blinking and trading.
GWB Teneb the Harvester - Enchantments, you lose life I gain life.
RRR Neheb the Eternal - Ping people for mana burn.
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Hey, I'm fine with Cedh players getting their due, but this is puuuuuuuuuuuushed. The only consolation is that Vannifar will have about the same weaknesses as a Yisan deck (albeit with countermagic). Gross.
She basically takes your Mono-W Teshar, Ancestor's Apostle deck and adds a bunch of redundancy in finding cards and then doubles Scrap Trawler & friends in the deck alongside allowing for cheap other wincons like Disciple of the Vault and Blood Artist and friends.
Excited (I have made UW-Raff and WG-Saffi versions very interested to see how this works)
Now that you say it, that card really breaks symmetries in decks that gives everyone cards, it can go more crazy with wheel effects like Windfall and Magus of the Wheel
BGU Sidisi, Brood Tyrant - Lurking Zombies.
GBG Sapling of Colfenor - Forest Growth and Destruction.
RWU Zedruu the Greathearted - Blinking and trading.
GWB Teneb the Harvester - Enchantments, you lose life I gain life.
RRR Neheb the Eternal - Ping people for mana burn.