I've been playing my Karador deck a lot lately and between Cabal Coffers+Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth and Crypt of Agadeem, I find that I have a ton of ways to make black mana but always end up needing W or G mana. I'm looking for ways to efficiently (so, either one for one or X+1 for X, or something to that effect) and repeatedly (so no Chromatic Sphere, or evenMana Cylix) convert black mana to other colors. Does what I'm looking for exist?
if you have a way to make lots of tokens with your black mana, perhaps Phyrexian altar
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Reconfigure your deck to take better advantage of vast amounts of Black mana. Run Pestilence Demon over Massacre Wurm, for example, or Skeletal Vampire over Grave Titan, or Stronghold Overseer over Windborn Muse. Play more cards with three or four Black mana symbols in their casting cost, and less with double White/Green. You can't just ram a single-colour engine into a three-colour deck and expect it to perform to the same standard as a mono-Black deck.
Shimmering Grotto works for turning colorless into colored. Time Spiral storage lands could work, too, especially since they can tap for colorless if you don't need or want to add a storage counter.
Reconfigure your deck to take better advantage of vast amounts of Black mana. Run Pestilence Demon over Massacre Wurm, for example, or Skeletal Vampire over Grave Titan, or Stronghold Overseer over Windborn Muse. Play more cards with three or four Black mana symbols in their casting cost, and less with double White/Green. You can't just ram a single-colour engine into a three-colour deck and expect it to perform to the same standard as a mono-Black deck.
My deck is pretty heavily black/green (for the graveyard play and the various ramp packages), which is normally okay, but sometimes I just want to cast and sac my general three times a turn, which requires a ton of G/W mana. I probably do need to reconfigure my manabase, since I have at least five to ten ways to tutor for Urborg, and I'm not sure if I'm running filters. Garruk Wildspeaker will probably find a slot again, and the Magus could be interesting if I find a slot for him.
Outside of Prismatic Lens effects, there isn't much. Especially not for unlimited amounts.
Your best bet is probably filter lands, they can shift 2 each.
Farrelite Priest could work. Death is typically not an issue for this deck at all. Two to three B->W conversions per turn may be good enough anyway. I'll see if I can't reconfigure the manabase enough so that this guy can find a slot. Aforementioned Gemstone Array looks good - not efficient, but with Coffers, who cares, really?
Mycosynth Lattice is cool but I've avoided putting artifacts in this deck to avoid another avenue of hate. Worse, it makes my lands vulnerable (sac outlets, coffers/urborg, fixing). I think I will avoid this for now. Celestial Dawn would have been nice if it was "Plains in addition to other land types", i.e. Urborg for white. Oh well.
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if you have a way to make lots of tokens with your black mana, perhaps Phyrexian altar
Sek'kuar reanimator
Treva enchantress
Wort the raid mother, Goblin aggro/combo
Arcum Dagsson, the deck you love to hate
Kamahl, fist of Krosa: the token tidal wave
Oros, the hate dragon (WIP, started 12/18/12)
As yet to be determined 7th deck, being debated
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If you're having a similar problem in white, there's Celestial Dawn.
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I am a bit weary of Mycosynth Lattice due to it's interactions with an Akroma's Vengeance or even a Shatterstorm/Creeping Corrosion.
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Farrelite Priest for white. He may die, but you have Karador.
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Outside of Prismatic Lens effects, there isn't much. Especially not for unlimited amounts.
Your best bet is probably filter lands, they can shift 2 each.
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I've also found the filterlands (Twilight Mire, etc.) combined with something that untaps lands (Garruk Wildspeaker, (Magus of the) Candelabra of Tawnos) to be very good at filtering Coffers/Crypt mana.
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My deck is pretty heavily black/green (for the graveyard play and the various ramp packages), which is normally okay, but sometimes I just want to cast and sac my general three times a turn, which requires a ton of G/W mana. I probably do need to reconfigure my manabase, since I have at least five to ten ways to tutor for Urborg, and I'm not sure if I'm running filters. Garruk Wildspeaker will probably find a slot again, and the Magus could be interesting if I find a slot for him.
Farrelite Priest could work. Death is typically not an issue for this deck at all. Two to three B->W conversions per turn may be good enough anyway. I'll see if I can't reconfigure the manabase enough so that this guy can find a slot. Aforementioned Gemstone Array looks good - not efficient, but with Coffers, who cares, really?
Mycosynth Lattice is cool but I've avoided putting artifacts in this deck to avoid another avenue of hate. Worse, it makes my lands vulnerable (sac outlets, coffers/urborg, fixing). I think I will avoid this for now. Celestial Dawn would have been nice if it was "Plains in addition to other land types", i.e. Urborg for white. Oh well.
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There are similar cards as well but have an "activate only once each turn" limitation.pucatrade
big receipts
alpha mox emerald
beta time walk
4 goyfs received
3 liliana of the veil
4 karn liberated
3 force of will
4 grove of the burnwillows
snapcaster mage
3 horizon canopy
2 full art damnation