This deck needs counters, removal, and win conditions added to it, as well as lots of cuts; any and all suggestions are welcome and greatly appreciated.
Thanks for the suggestions; does anything stick out to you as easily cuttable? I've taken out the worst of the morphs, but some of it is still pretty bad... Also, I failed to include sweepers XD.
Thanks for the suggestions; does anything stick out to you as easily cuttable? I've taken out the worst of the morphs, but some of it is still pretty bad... Also, I failed to include sweepers XD.
Can't believe I forgot to put in Fact or Fiction, I'll try out the top + future sight thing, and most of the cuts look good, my one question is as to whether or not to cut Put Away, my reasoning being that in a singleton format it can be like having another copy of a spell, I could imagine however this would be less relevant in a deck without black for tutors... Thanks for all of the suggestions!
I think that is all the cards from his deck that I saw that weren't face down at the time. He seemed to have a pretty good grasp of the deck. I think you could probably get a lot of benefit from running a Wizard sub theme in this type of deck
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I think that is all the cards from his deck that I saw that weren't face down at the time. He seemed to have a pretty good grasp of the deck. I think you could probably get a lot of benefit from running a Wizard sub theme in this type of deck
Sweet! Thanks for the info and I'll definitely have to try out Patron Wizard and co. I really appreciate the observations:). Just wondering if you think Sigil Tracer, Supreme Inquisitor, or even Aphetto Grifter might be worthwhile?
Sweet! Thanks for the info and I'll definitely have to try out Patron Wizard and co. I really appreciate the observations:). Just wondering if you think Sigil Tracer, Supreme Inquisitor, or even Aphetto Grifter might be worthwhile?
yeah they all seem like good possibilities I would try them all out see which ones you like and don't like.
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It's basically a 3 mana Dream Chisel (plus helps the few non-morph cretures), so I think it's pretty good.
The Helm helps your opponents but the other 2 don't and are very similar to Dream Chisel, basically they cost more but have a better effect. So if you like the Chisel, I'd try and find room for the Gate and the Calender and at least try them out. It would be pretty cool to get enough artifacts out that your morphs cost 0.
The Helm helps your opponents but the other 2 don't and are very similar to Dream Chisel, basically they cost more but have a better effect. So if you like the Chisel, I'd try and find room for the Gate and the Calender and at least try them out. It would be pretty cool to get enough artifacts out that your morphs cost 0.
Agreed:D, thanks for the advice and :Dyeah, thinking harder now I guess symmetrical positive effects for all players are bad when you have more opponents than team members...
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1 Riptide Entrancer
1 Weaver of Lies
1 Aphetto Alchemist
1 Quicksilver Dragon
1 Riptide Survivor
1 Maelstrom Djinn
1 Willbender
1 Vesuvan Shapeshifter
1 Mischievious Quanar
1 Chromeshell Crab
1 Dermoplasm
1 Proteus Machine
1 Timebender
1 Riptide Pilferer
1 Coral Trickster
1 Wall of Deceit
1 Disruptive Pitmage
1 Voidmage Prodigy
1 Mistform Seaswift
1 Fledgling Mawcor
1 Fathom Seer
1 Ascending Aven
1 Shaper Parasite
1 Riptide Biologist
1 Echo Tracer
1 Aquamorph Entity
1 Unblinking Bleb
1 Master of the Veil
1 Voidmage Apprentice
1 Mistform Shrieker
1 Slipstream Serpent
1 Brine Elemental
1 Counterspell
1 Put Away
1 Rewind
1 Fervent Denial
1 Faerie Trickery
1 Spell Burst
1 Forbid
1 Hinder
1 Dismiss
1 Careful Consideration
1 Compulsive Research
1 Foresee
1 Aphetto Runecaster
1 Fact or Fiction
1 Future Sight
1 Spin into Myth
1 Wipe Away
1 Nevinyral's Disk
1 Oblivion Stone
1 Evacuation
1 Sensei's Divining Top
1 Relic of Progenitus
1 Kira, Great Glass Spinner
1 Vedalken AEthermage
1 Levitation
1 Mistblade Shinobi
1 Ninja of the Deep Hours
1 Backslide
1 Crafty Pathmage
1 Drift of Phantasms
1 Ixidron
1 Akroma’s Memorial
1 Propaganda
1 Sword of the Paruns
1 Wonder
1 Memnarch
1 Mindslaver
1 Dream Chisel
1 Coldsteel Heart
1 Lonely Sandbar
1 Tolaria West
1 Quicksand
1 Zoetic Cavern
1 Scrying Sheets
1 Mouth of Ronom
1 Academy Ruins
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Removal: Oblivion Stone, Nevinyrral's Disk, Tradewind Rider
Win Conditions: Mindslaver+Academy Ruins, Memnarch, Tidespout Tyrant
Thanks for the suggestions; does anything stick out to you as easily cuttable? I've taken out the worst of the morphs, but some of it is still pretty bad... Also, I failed to include sweepers XD.
Edit: First post updated with suggestions.
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I'd take out Put Away, Controvert, Condescend, Discombobulate, Chronatog Totem, Writ of Passage & Brainstorm for starters. You should also consider adding in Sensei's Divining Top & Future Sight as they are great on their own and amazing together. Also don't see Fact or Fiction on you list.
Can't believe I forgot to put in Fact or Fiction, I'll try out the top + future sight thing, and most of the cuts look good, my one question is as to whether or not to cut Put Away, my reasoning being that in a singleton format it can be like having another copy of a spell, I could imagine however this would be less relevant in a deck without black for tutors... Thanks for all of the suggestions!
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In the 'random' section as it itself isn't a morph creature;).
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ok kewl now i know where to find it
Patron Wizard
Disruptive Student
Riptide Survivor
Spell burst
Fervant Denial
Voidmage Prodigy
Fathom Seer
Vesuvan Shapeshifter
Dissipate
Hinder
Weaver of Lies
Fledgling Mawcor
Master of the Veil
I think that is all the cards from his deck that I saw that weren't face down at the time. He seemed to have a pretty good grasp of the deck. I think you could probably get a lot of benefit from running a Wizard sub theme in this type of deck
Sweet! Thanks for the info and I'll definitely have to try out Patron Wizard and co. I really appreciate the observations:). Just wondering if you think Sigil Tracer, Supreme Inquisitor, or even Aphetto Grifter might be worthwhile?
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yeah they all seem like good possibilities I would try them all out see which ones you like and don't like.
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How much do you like Cloud Key so far?
It's basically a 3 mana Dream Chisel (plus helps the few non-morph cretures), so I think it's pretty good.
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The Helm helps your opponents but the other 2 don't and are very similar to Dream Chisel, basically they cost more but have a better effect. So if you like the Chisel, I'd try and find room for the Gate and the Calender and at least try them out. It would be pretty cool to get enough artifacts out that your morphs cost 0.
Agreed:D, thanks for the advice and :Dyeah, thinking harder now I guess symmetrical positive effects for all players are bad when you have more opponents than team members...
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