Okay, I'm making a Karona, False God EDH deck with a major token sub theme, partially to take advantage of the pseudo Overrun effect he (she?) has.
With that said, even though Karona is a pretty janky general, I'm not worried about broken, unfun combos, so don't pull punches. This is for a pretty rough EDH tournament environment, and my EDH playgroup finds brokenness fun.
I need to win quickly with this deck, and my group usually has enough board sweepers to kill my tokens if I'm only making a few a turn. AS it is, I think I have enough kill conditions (Goblin Bombardment, Epic Struggle, etc), but not enough token generators. My only two reliable ones are the Squirrel's Nest combos and Storm Herd, but the last time I tested those they either got countered or Hide//Seeked out of my deck.
So, criteria:
1) Produces 5+ tokens at a time
2) Preferrably repeatable
3) Preferrably below a 3 card combo
Of course any suggestions for a token based deck will be gladly accepted. I don't have a finshed list yet, because it's still in testing and a bunch of the cards are proxied currently, but they should be coming in next week and I'll post something.
First off, i have a token deck myself, though its only g/b...
Might i suggest Muraganda Petroglyphs. It makes all your tokens elephants and it works VERY well in my opinion. Whenever ive played it, i either win or other players all frantically search for an answer.
As for token creators,sprout swarm gets out of hand soooo fast. and its instant speed. Trust me on this one, its a house. I even put it in non token decks just because i think its that good.
Might i suggest Muraganda Petroglyphs. It makes all your tokens elephants and it works VERY well in my opinion. Whenever ive played it, i either win or other players all frantically search for an answer.
Actually it doesn't make Dragon Broodmother's tokens into elephants or any other token with any actual abilities... so while it is a GOOD card, it is hardly the end all be all of token decks. Personally I was considering building a Rith, the Awakener Tokens deck and in it I would prefer to run things like Wilt-Leaf Liege over Muraganda Petroglyphs because the Liege pumps regardless of whether I am using tokens with abilities or not, not to mention it pumps both my tokens and non-token creatures
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The Mutations (Artifact Mutation, Aura Mutation, etc etc) will often give you 5+ tokens a shot and will also provide you with plenty of versatility in dealign with stuff.
For general token creators, i'd just take the time to go through a thorough search.
I've always thought Marrow-Gnawer was a good token producer. Especially if you're running Intruder Alarm. As long as you start out with a couple rats you now can make infinite, and they have fear too (added bonus for when you're attacking and pumped up with Karona, False God).
It does require some previous rats though, so I guess it's only good if you're already running Lab Rats or Plague of Vermin.
I plan on adding Rhys, Sprout Swarm and Hazezon as soon as I can get my grubby little paws on them.
Plague of Vermin has been bouncing in and out of this deck since I made it, but hasn't proven itself. Half the time it works out nicely, the other half of the time it screws me over. For now it's out, but I'm willing to be convinced of its awesomeness.
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With that said, even though Karona is a pretty janky general, I'm not worried about broken, unfun combos, so don't pull punches. This is for a pretty rough EDH tournament environment, and my EDH playgroup finds brokenness fun.
My current problem is that I don't think I have enough mass token producers.
I currently have:
Squirrel Nest + Earthcraft or alternatively Squirrel Nest + Man Lands + Intruder Alarm
Storm Herd
Supply//Demand (but this usually gets used as a tutor)
Martial Coup
and a bunch of piddling stuff like Goblin Assault, Honden of Life's Web, Vhitu Ghazi, The City Tree, and Elspeth, Knight Errant that only make small amounts of tokens.
I need to win quickly with this deck, and my group usually has enough board sweepers to kill my tokens if I'm only making a few a turn. AS it is, I think I have enough kill conditions (Goblin Bombardment, Epic Struggle, etc), but not enough token generators. My only two reliable ones are the Squirrel's Nest combos and Storm Herd, but the last time I tested those they either got countered or Hide//Seeked out of my deck.
So, criteria:
1) Produces 5+ tokens at a time
2) Preferrably repeatable
3) Preferrably below a 3 card combo
Of course any suggestions for a token based deck will be gladly accepted. I don't have a finshed list yet, because it's still in testing and a bunch of the cards are proxied currently, but they should be coming in next week and I'll post something.
Thanks in advance.
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produces 5+ tokens? yes
repeatable? yes
less than 3 cards? well it's only 1, innit?
Might i suggest Muraganda Petroglyphs. It makes all your tokens elephants and it works VERY well in my opinion. Whenever ive played it, i either win or other players all frantically search for an answer.
As for token creators,sprout swarm gets out of hand soooo fast. and its instant speed. Trust me on this one, its a house. I even put it in non token decks just because i think its that good.
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Actually it doesn't make Dragon Broodmother's tokens into elephants or any other token with any actual abilities... so while it is a GOOD card, it is hardly the end all be all of token decks. Personally I was considering building a Rith, the Awakener Tokens deck and in it I would prefer to run things like Wilt-Leaf Liege over Muraganda Petroglyphs because the Liege pumps regardless of whether I am using tokens with abilities or not, not to mention it pumps both my tokens and non-token creatures
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For general token creators, i'd just take the time to go through a thorough search.
http://magiccards.info/query/cards/5673428/1.html
Most of it will be junk, but spend 15 minutes scrolling through and you'll really know nearly every option availible.
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It does require some previous rats though, so I guess it's only good if you're already running Lab Rats or Plague of Vermin.
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I plan on adding Rhys, Sprout Swarm and Hazezon as soon as I can get my grubby little paws on them.
Plague of Vermin has been bouncing in and out of this deck since I made it, but hasn't proven itself. Half the time it works out nicely, the other half of the time it screws me over. For now it's out, but I'm willing to be convinced of its awesomeness.