Ok, i've been working on a Uril deck for a little bit and so far its doing pretty good. I just wanted to know if you guys had any thoughts on my deck or any other card suggestions.
Is it possible to have Ib Halfheart, Goblin Tactician sacrifice two Plains to create two 1/1 black Lizard tokens? Yes. And until you have tried doing so, how can you judge the level of efficiency that doing so holds?
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I think I've already made a bajillion comments on yours but...
You seem to be missing a Path to Exile, and Endless Horizons can be potentially detrimental. I think i've already expressed my views on Wurmweaver Coil and Elephant Guide.
I'd add an Enlightened Tutor and maybe replace Endless Horizons with Greater Auramancy. Maybe Privileged Position too? I think I'd also take out Intimidation bolt for Path to Exile.
Note to Slivortal: While I don't mind the Rabid Wombat suggestion - Uril can't actually be Condemned / Spot Removal'd. He's got the super shroud.
I'd add an Enlightened Tutor and maybe replace Endless Horizons with Greater Auramancy. Maybe Privileged Position too? I think I'd also take out Intimidation bolt for Path to Exile.
Note to Slivortal: While I don't mind the Rabid Wombat suggestion - Uril can't actually be Condemned / Spot Removal'd. He's got the super shroud.
Sorry, I forgot about trollshroud for a second.:stupid: Still, it's good to have extra outs anyways.
Sorry, I forgot about trollshroud for a second.:stupid: Still, it's good to have extra outs anyways.
Rabid Wombat is BAD. He's at least a 2 for one waiting to happen. It's the mere fact that Uril has troll shroud that makes him good and playable. Greater Auramancy is also kinda bad, since it stops you from enchanting Uril with more stuff.
I like all of these suggestions. But i think that some of the cards arent going in. Rabid wombat, i rly dont like becuz even though its like a alternative to Uril, its a lot weaker and can die very easily if im not getting enough enchantments. Greater Auramancy i purposly took out just becuz it makes it so my Uril can't b enchanted more thant once. Battle Mastery is definetely in and so is Privledged Position(Once i find them). I've been meaning to take out my Wurmweaver Coil out once i get an Epic Proportions in my deck. Scourge of the Nobilis is a good card to add and so is Blessing of the Nephilim. And i kept in Endless Horizons because its one of the things that can let me search for a Plateau, Temple Garden, or Savannah to mana fix. And i don't always have to take out like 20 plains, a few would be fine just to ensure i will be getting the lands and dont end up having 2 lands on my 4th turn and then topdecking a meglonoth. And Dragon scales i can take out easily cuz, like somebody said, its effect doesn't trigger much. I'll think about taking out Taste For Mayhem cuz its rly not the greatest. I'll add in a Faith's Fetters when i can. And Basically i just need to know what to take out of my deck. Galvanic Arc/tast for mayhem/Dragon scales i will probably take out. Endless Horizons, im still on the barrirer of wether or not to take it out.
Is it possible to have Ib Halfheart, Goblin Tactician sacrifice two Plains to create two 1/1 black Lizard tokens? Yes. And until you have tried doing so, how can you judge the level of efficiency that doing so holds?
Quote from Deulcalion »
Height: 0.8 m at the sholder (dragons, always insidious, have apparently adopted the metric system)
Is it possible to have Ib Halfheart, Goblin Tactician sacrifice two Plains to create two 1/1 black Lizard tokens? Yes. And until you have tried doing so, how can you judge the level of efficiency that doing so holds?
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Height: 0.8 m at the sholder (dragons, always insidious, have apparently adopted the metric system)
And yet giving your Troll-shrouded general +4/+4 and flying is not terrible in EDH. The Griffin token is just gravy in case he dies or you decide you need to wrath.
I would suggest Argothian Enchantress as another enchantress effect. Even Enchantress' Presence could be good as it is also and enchantment. If you decide to go that route, Gift of Estates could probably be replaced by Land Tax.
Also, cascade seems like a good idea in this deck since you can hit auras onto Uril so easily. Maybe try for Bloodbraid Elf too? He seems like he hits most of your auras on the cascade.
I would cut Where Ancients Tread. It doesn't seem to be triggered by too many cards in your deck. Uril is such a monster that you are likely to kill people with general damage before that 5 damage really matters, and he's just plain bigger than most creatures you'd want to worry about.
Good Luck. This deck looks like so much fun I think I'm inspired to try Uril.
And yet giving your Troll-shrouded general +4/+4 and flying is not terrible in EDH. The Griffin token is just gravy in case he dies or you decide you need to wrath.
Idk, I just feel as if there are better evasion cards out there such as Asha's Favor and Shield of the Oversoul. I mean it's not bad, but I wouldn't cut much in favor of it (cept maybe Armored Ascension).
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yeah, i've been meaning to find an argothian enchantress but my local card shop is all out of em so i can't buy one. I'll stumble upon one soon i hope. (i might just proxy for a while lol). And griffin guide is a useful card and armored ascension can be cut. And ill try and find a Land Tax so i can add that in. And A bloodbraid elf won't b hard to find since most of the ppl at my card shop horde them lol. And just to say, Im looking for Epic porportions and Mythic Porportions cuz they can rly do some dmg if i have enough mana. (plus i think it will b fun to play my Auratouched Mage and search for Mythic Porportions lol. Check out my 11/11 with trample for 6.) Thanks for all the suggestions. Im still open for some though.
Is it possible to have Ib Halfheart, Goblin Tactician sacrifice two Plains to create two 1/1 black Lizard tokens? Yes. And until you have tried doing so, how can you judge the level of efficiency that doing so holds?
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Why not consider 'Shrike? He's like Uril with less colour intensive/overall manacost, flying and a reanimation thingy in exchange for troll-shroud and +3/+3.
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if shrike is evershrike then he is white and black. we are not allowed to play hybrid not matching general in my shop. but i play him a lot and love it in any white black deck. rancor or spirit loop it for 3 (6/4 flying trample) or 4 mana (4/4 flying s-link) after a wraith type effect. spirit loop should replace the link also. darksteel ingot could replace Obelisk of Naya right.
you play a lot of enchantments and enchantress what aboot femeref enchantress any grave from play draw 1.
i was thinking about that enchantress but idk if im planning on having a lot of my enchants go to grave. But it might be useful. i have a spirit loop and ill switch it out with the link. The ignot is a good addition and there is no point in keeping and obelisk in just becuz ignot is so much better. Any more suggestiosn are encouraged!
Is it possible to have Ib Halfheart, Goblin Tactician sacrifice two Plains to create two 1/1 black Lizard tokens? Yes. And until you have tried doing so, how can you judge the level of efficiency that doing so holds?
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Height: 0.8 m at the sholder (dragons, always insidious, have apparently adopted the metric system)
i was thinking about that enchantress but idk if im planning on having a lot of my enchants go to grave. But it might be useful. i have a spirit loop and ill switch it out with the link. The ignot is a good addition and there is no point in keeping and obelisk in just becuz ignot is so much better. Any more suggestiosn are encouraged!
Wrath effect work with femeref? Cuz if it does, epic draw winrar.
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it will if i have a lot of things pumped on my Uril cuz when he goes to grave, all enchants do too so it might b useful. but idk which would come first. He dieing or the card draw unless im able to pick which order by guys go to the grave in.
Is it possible to have Ib Halfheart, Goblin Tactician sacrifice two Plains to create two 1/1 black Lizard tokens? Yes. And until you have tried doing so, how can you judge the level of efficiency that doing so holds?
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Height: 0.8 m at the sholder (dragons, always insidious, have apparently adopted the metric system)
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1x Uril, the Miststalker
CREATURES
1x Verduran Enchantress
1x Mycoid Shepherd
1x Yavimayay Enchantress
1x Jareth, Leonine Titan
1x Knotvine Mystic
1x Druid of the Anima
1x Krosan Tusker
1x Maglonoth
1x Mesa Enchantress
1x Eternal Witness
1x Megeta The Lion
1x Enlisted Wurm
1x Valor
1x Brawn
1x Auratouched Mage
AURAS
1x Dragon Fangs
1x Daybreak Coronet
1x Flickerform
1x Shield of the Oversoul
1x Battle Mastery
1x Pattern of Rebirth
1x Spirit Link
1x Empyrial Armor
1x Pariah
1x Blessing of the Nephilim
1x Rancor
1x Armored Ascension
1x Instill Energy
1x Wurmweaver Coil
1x Armadillo Cloak
1x Scourge of the Nobilis
1x Runes of the Deus
1x Arcane Teachings
1x Gaea's Embrace
1x Elephant Guide
1x Gratuitous Violence
1x Where Ancients Tread
1x Sigil of the Empty Throne
1x Endless Horizons
1x Sterling Grove
1x Privleged Position
SORCERIES
1x Hallowed Burial
1x Replenish
1x Retether
1x Three Dreams
1x Gift of Estates
1x Resurrection
1x Decimate
1x Soul's Majesty
1x Winds of Rath
1x Kodama's reach
1x Idyllic Tutor
1x Explosive Vegetation
INSTANTS
1x Condemn
1x Wing Shards
1x Path to Exile
1x Swords to Plowshares
1x Worldly Tutor
ARTIFACTS
1x Firewild Borderpost
1x Wildfield Borderpost
1x Obelisk of Naya
1x Boros Signet
1x Selesnya Signet
1x Jungle Shrine
1x Naya Panorama
1x Fungal Reaches
1x Temple Garden
1x WOoded Bastion
1x Rupture Spire
1x Sunhome, Fortress of the Legion
1x Fire-Lit Thicket
1x Karplusan FOrest
1x Vivid Crag
1x Contested Cliffs
1x Pleatu
1x Terramorphic Expanse
1x Savannah
1x New Banalia
8x Forest
7x Plains
6x Moutain
Ok, so tell me what you think.
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You seem to be missing a Path to Exile, and Endless Horizons can be potentially detrimental. I think i've already expressed my views on Wurmweaver Coil and Elephant Guide.
Taste for Mayhem is kinda underwhelming. 1 mana for 4/2 isn't as good as 1 mana for 5/5 in Blessing of the Nephilim. Galvanic Arc is also weak and underwhelming. I'd cut that for Asha's Favor which does so much more, or Battle Mastery.
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Note to Slivortal: While I don't mind the Rabid Wombat suggestion - Uril can't actually be Condemned / Spot Removal'd. He's got the super shroud.
To U for U
Sorry, I forgot about trollshroud for a second.:stupid: Still, it's good to have extra outs anyways.
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Rabid Wombat is BAD. He's at least a 2 for one waiting to happen. It's the mere fact that Uril has troll shroud that makes him good and playable.
Greater Auramancy is also kinda bad, since it stops you from enchanting Uril with more stuff.
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-Intimidation Bolt
-Blanchwood Armor
-Taste of Mayhem
-Dragon Scales
-1 plains
-Galvanic Arc
+Battle Mastery
+Auratouched Mage
+Blessing of the Nephilim
+Privileged Position
+Path to Exile
+Scourge of the Nobilis
So tell me what you think. I would still like to add others but don't know what to take out. More Suggestions would b very helpful.
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2/2 is a terrible beater in EDH.
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I would suggest Argothian Enchantress as another enchantress effect. Even Enchantress' Presence could be good as it is also and enchantment. If you decide to go that route, Gift of Estates could probably be replaced by Land Tax.
Also, cascade seems like a good idea in this deck since you can hit auras onto Uril so easily. Maybe try for Bloodbraid Elf too? He seems like he hits most of your auras on the cascade.
I would cut Where Ancients Tread. It doesn't seem to be triggered by too many cards in your deck. Uril is such a monster that you are likely to kill people with general damage before that 5 damage really matters, and he's just plain bigger than most creatures you'd want to worry about.
Good Luck. This deck looks like so much fun I think I'm inspired to try Uril.
Idk, I just feel as if there are better evasion cards out there such as Asha's Favor and Shield of the Oversoul. I mean it's not bad, but I wouldn't cut much in favor of it (cept maybe Armored Ascension).
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spirit loop should replace the link also.
darksteel ingot could replace Obelisk of Naya right.
you play a lot of enchantments and enchantress what aboot femeref enchantress any grave from play draw 1.
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RIb Halfheart, Goblin TacticianR
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Wrath effect work with femeref? Cuz if it does, epic draw winrar.
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