First of all I'd like to mention that I am an ultra casual player. I had the same decks for half a year and only play a few times each month. However, I'd like to ramp up things a bit. Until now I only played straight forward creature based decks, for example a mono red goblin deck spawning goblins multiplying with krenko, mob boss or a mono green deck based around Avenger of Zendikar with a few heavy guys such as primeval titan. I now want to try something different and assembled the following deck. The idea is to have the opponent discard his hand as quickly as possible, remove, kill or sacrifice potentially dangerous creatures and finish up with strong creatures and assembled a first deck:
I know that there are cards which I will most likely not be able to get my hands on (i.e. afford), such as badlands, chains of mephistopheles or Demonic Tutor. I would nevertheless like to know how to improve this deck, where you guys see potential problems and how I could replace the expensive cards.
You are missing some very powerful cards for a deck like yours.
First and foremost...Burning Inquiry...this card is sick in a multiplayer discard deck and it will help your game a lot...it allows you to make them discard even if their hand is empty.
Liliana's Caress and Waste Not should be your focus...even good old Megrim is playable...you dont need Demigod of Revenge or Nyxathid to win the game...going creatureless and focusing your deck entirely on the discard theme will be much more effective.
Your Basilisk Collar are useless without your Goblin Sharpshooter, the sharpshooter will end up being the only creatures in your deck if you use enchantments for damage output and your opponent's creature removal will take out your goblins if needed. Remove the collar and the goblins and run a playset of Smallpox instead....it deals with creature and makes your opponents discard
Demonic Tutor is restricted...confirm with your playgroup before playing more than 1
Chains of Mephistopheles is just too expensive (800$ US each)...if you are ready to put that much money in the game, dont waste it on a mean discard deck that your friends will hate. Also, should you consider building a tournament deck...Chains is only legal in legacy and vintage and it would cost you way more money to be competitive in these formats.
You dont need the Badlands to fix your colors...your deck is only RB anyway.
If anyone can help I know there was a deck I saw listed as a list in a thread it’s black red had rakdos and rotting rats I remember it was for casual multiplayer please help
If anyone can help I know there was a deck I saw listed as a list in a thread it’s black red had rakdos and rotting rats I remember it was for casual multiplayer please help
Please don't hijack threads to ask about something mostly unrelated to the thread. Actually, please don't hijack threads in general. Making a new thread is not complicated and you get answers specific to your topic because you get to state that topic in the thread's title.
As for your actual question, you are way too vague still. A B/R multiplayer deck using Rakdos (which Rakdos? Rakdos the Defiler or Rakdos, Lord of Riots?) and Rotting Rats. While a useful hint, that's not nearly enough. What is the deck trying to do, what specifc gimicks does it use? When did you see it and was it new at that time? Did you see it here on MTGS?
First of all I'd like to mention that I am an ultra casual player. I had the same decks for half a year and only play a few times each month. However, I'd like to ramp up things a bit. Until now I only played straight forward creature based decks, for example a mono red goblin deck spawning goblins multiplying with krenko, mob boss or a mono green deck based around Avenger of Zendikar with a few heavy guys such as primeval titan. I now want to try something different and assembled the following deck. The idea is to have the opponent discard his hand as quickly as possible, remove, kill or sacrifice potentially dangerous creatures and finish up with strong creatures and assembled a first deck:
2 Megrim
1 Underworld Dreams
2 Bloodchief Ascension
4 Liliana's Caress
4 Waste Not
Land
2 Blood Crypt
2 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
2 Graven Cairns
4 Blackcleave Cliffs
2 Geier Reach Sanitarium
3 Swamp
2 Mountain
2 Mikokoro, Center of the Sea
2 Dark Ritual
2 Go for the Throat
2 Geth's Verdict
2 Tragic Slip
Sorcery
2 Demonic Tutor
4 Hymn to Tourach
4 Smallpox
4 Thoughtseize
2 Blightning
4 Burning Inquiry
1 Demigod of Revenge
1 Chains of Mephistopheles
1 Shrieking Affliction
1 Dream Salvage
1 Wheel of Fortune
1 Syphon Mind
1 Dark Deal
I know that there are cards which I will most likely not be able to get my hands on (i.e. afford), such as badlands, chains of mephistopheles or Demonic Tutor. I would nevertheless like to know how to improve this deck, where you guys see potential problems and how I could replace the expensive cards.
Some explanation
Goblin Sharpshooter + Basilisk Collar - Remove threads
Demigod of Revenge and Nyxathid - Finisher
Thanks for your feedback!
First and foremost...Burning Inquiry...this card is sick in a multiplayer discard deck and it will help your game a lot...it allows you to make them discard even if their hand is empty.
Liliana's Caress and Waste Not should be your focus...even good old Megrim is playable...you dont need Demigod of Revenge or Nyxathid to win the game...going creatureless and focusing your deck entirely on the discard theme will be much more effective.
Playing The rack when you have so many stronger options doesnt make any sense. If Liliana's Caress and friends dont do enough damage...you can consider Shrieking affliction (affects all your opponents instead of just 1) but I would play Bloodchief Ascension before the affliction if you really need extra damage sources but between Megrim, Liliana's Caress and Underworld Dreams you should do plenty of damage.
Your Basilisk Collar are useless without your Goblin Sharpshooter, the sharpshooter will end up being the only creatures in your deck if you use enchantments for damage output and your opponent's creature removal will take out your goblins if needed. Remove the collar and the goblins and run a playset of Smallpox instead....it deals with creature and makes your opponents discard
Demonic Tutor is restricted...confirm with your playgroup before playing more than 1
Sol Ring is an improvement in almost any deck
Anvil of Bogardan, Syphon Mind, Mikokoro, Center of the Sea, Geier Reach Sanitarium could be interesting
Chains of Mephistopheles is just too expensive (800$ US each)...if you are ready to put that much money in the game, dont waste it on a mean discard deck that your friends will hate. Also, should you consider building a tournament deck...Chains is only legal in legacy and vintage and it would cost you way more money to be competitive in these formats.
You dont need the Badlands to fix your colors...your deck is only RB anyway.
Dream salvage could be very strong
Please don't hijack threads to ask about something mostly unrelated to the thread. Actually, please don't hijack threads in general. Making a new thread is not complicated and you get answers specific to your topic because you get to state that topic in the thread's title.
As for your actual question, you are way too vague still. A B/R multiplayer deck using Rakdos (which Rakdos? Rakdos the Defiler or Rakdos, Lord of Riots?) and Rotting Rats. While a useful hint, that's not nearly enough. What is the deck trying to do, what specifc gimicks does it use? When did you see it and was it new at that time? Did you see it here on MTGS?
Right now, the only advice I can give you is to look through the actual multiplayer section of this forum:
https://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/the-game/casual-multiplayer-formats/multiplayer
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