MTG Salvation

I've going to vote against the Night Whispers. It's handy to have as many Sign in Blood variants as possibly, but it's time to cut cards and this one is not vital to the strategy. it's good to get the Necro/Bargain out asap, but we need to trim. voting out four.
also voting out 2 Cabal Therapy. Flashback is great, but we don't have much outside Rector to sacrifice.

also, what's up with the budget breaking landbase? Savannah & Bayou could easily be Sandsteppe Citadel or Tainted Wood.

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also, what's up with the budget breaking landbase? Savannah & Bayou could easily be Sandsteppe Citadel or Tainted Wood.

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no budget go wild.

Why not run good lands?

I dislike "three-of's". So, because of symmetry, i'm voting down all 3-of's. Also, we need to finish this GMaD.


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I'm going to vote down all copies of cabal therapy. Without regularly peering into their hand it's an inconsistent crap shoot card

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I'm going to vote down all copies of cabal therapy. Without regularly peering into their hand it's an inconsistent crap shoot card

It gives you information and fulfills three roles.

1) You name a card you would lose to if they had it, thus getting said card out of their hand.
2) You get to see if the way is clear before playing a key spell. Even if you miss you now know what they have in hand and can play around it.
3) You get to sacrifice Academy Rector for free.

I'm going to vote out all Priest of Gix. I'm not sure how this helps our game plan. I guess it filters mana into black, but this shouldn't be an issue. 3rd vote, cut.

I took a break from MTGS and yet we are still on this deck. Crazy. Anyways I'm going to vote down Claws of Gix because in my experience the mana payment always ends up being more of a toll than you initially think. I'm also going to vote to cut all 4 Cabal Therapy and combine the votes. I just don't think it's any good in a deck with so few creatures even if we do want to put a lot of them in the graveyard.

Ok, this needs to move along.

I'll vote against the remaining Cabal Therapies. It's a strong card, but there are few creatures for it and it gets worse below 4 copies (since you want to play this on turn 1 and it gets stronger in multiples). If down to 2, it might as well be 0.

I'll vote against 1 Greaves. 3 seems like a lot. The deck has a lot of draw power and tutors, and this card is awful in multiples.

I'll vote against 1 Ghostly Prison. There are tutors to find it if it's really necessary. This deck seems better as combo than prison, and there isn't room for both enablers and redundant protection.

I'll vote against all Ghost Councils. There are now much better sacrifice outlets for Academy Rector and much better win conditions. What does this really do for the game plan? I think the other vote against it was from me previously, so I am changing the vote from 1 @ -1 to 1 @ - 2. If I'm wrong, please correct it.




I'll vote against 1 Grim Backwoods and for +1 High Market. I doubt we'll often have 5 lands to spare when we want a quick sacrifice outlet.

PS - How did we forget the best non-P9 card in Magic Sol Ring?

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I'll vote against 1 Greaves. 3 seems like a lot. The deck has a lot of draw power and tutors, and this card is awful in multiples.

I'll vote against all Ghost Councils. There are now much better sacrifice outlets for Academy Rector and much better win conditions. What does this really do for the game plan? I think the other vote against it was from me previously, so I am changing the vote from 1 @ -1 to 1 @ - 2. If I'm wrong, please correct it.

I agree with both of these points and will also vote against both cards. This is the third vote against the 3rd copy of greaves so one is cut.

edit: notation is wrong on the Ghost Councils. It was already at 1 @ -1, 1 @ -2. I'm voting 1 @ -2, so I'm going to combine the votes cut one, and leave a vote of 2 @ -1 (2 people want to get rid of the last copy).

Why are we running Dimir House Guard? Were their more 4 drops at some point. I don't think this card is strong enough to warrant a spot so I'm voting down all 4.

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Why are we running Dimir House Guard? Were their more 4 drops at some point.

Short answer - Because we forgot Vampiric Tutor and Imperial Seal and it's too late to add them.

Long answer - It tutors for many important cards in the deck. It can find a setup card like Academy Rector (to find Bargain or Defense) or Defense of the Heart (to put Angel out). It can find a win condition. It curves out well as a 3-mana play to set up a 4-mana play next turn, a poor man's Grim Tutor.

I'm going to vote for removing one dimir house guard combining votes and leaving it at 1 at negative 2. If this is wrong I'm sure someone will fix it. This is due to it being a tutor for tutors which seems redundant.

I'm also going to vote against two nights whisper. The card draw is good but we need the room in the deck

Sandsteppe Citadel is good for the pie

did anyone suggest murmuring bosk?
it lets you adjust your lifetotal somewhat.