I still think Liliana of the Veil is overrated. A 3 mana verdict is not that big a deal. She's a control card in an aggro meta
She's nuts in modern and legacy. But yeah, she's good in standard, but she may not even be the best planeswalker in standard right now. Relentless is way better than people give it credit for.
Oh please, BTE is NOT overrated. Any deck is in trouble against RDW when they drop 2 BTE's and a Chainwalker on turn 2 while you are staring at only one mana on your side of the board.
I think i lose any game where someone gets a double BTE.
The more Midrange the deck, the less talented the plays.
That depends largely on the cards in the deck. If it's a Thragtusk-resto beatdown deck, then I might agree. But there are some dynamic cards in a midrange deck that lend a lot of lines of play to be had, such as non-combo Pod decks. You have the choice of sac'ing a creature for another, which may or may not be the best move depending on how the game state is, or not with where you want the game to go.
I like midrange-control decks because I feel like I have a lot of choices in my plays, all without being run over by Aggro before I get there
I think Desecration Demon is underrated. With the amount of control black has, and the fact he's a 6/6 with flying that creates a huge board presence that must be answered when he comes down... he seems just awesome.
Also, I think Illness in the Ranks should see/ should've seen more play. Yeah, yeah, I know it only hits tokens, and curse of death's hold hits everything, but a 1cmc enchantment that shuts down Lingering souls and one of UWR's biggest finishers Assmeble the legion seems like it should've found it's self into more SBs.
Armada Wurm is a huge bomb that will start seeing more play in midrange or even control decks. The card is similar to Grave Titan in a few ways and better in others (makes 10 power when it hits the field, spread out across multiple bodies; the 5/5 trampling wurm can be populated for insane value, etc.)
All of these card has the potential to shine more than Edward Cullen in a sunny day. Some of these have seen some play, others non. But I think they can become staples for the new standard post-rotation. Of course, Theros will bring more options and a new meta, and it is possible that some of these cards still being not played. But that's somethign we will now in a few weeks more.
I still think Liliana of the Veil is overrated. A 3 mana verdict is not that big a deal. She's a control card in an aggro meta
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, i nearly dropped out of my seat, when i read that.
liliana is played in modern and legacy because she is overrated? and noone ever said that she is the best planeswalker in standard. so how cam you say she is overrated?
how can a card which was around for 2 years, and found home in legacy and modern and worth over 30$ be overrated?
@TE:
BTE is a very good card and not overrated, sure its not a card you just put in every deck, and it works. but in the right deck she can give you some hillarious fast plays.
how can chandra's phoenix be overrated? he is not played anywhere currently and is worth 20 cents or something?
if he sees play after rotation highly depends on the quality of burns we get there. with the current burn package he is unplayable, but lets see, if we get the right burns for him, he may see standard play again.
@Bac5656: the definition of different decks is, that they play different cards
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I want Junk reanimator back in the meta game. It gave Jund headaches and it forced aggro to be small, streamline and all in.
chandra's pheonix does seem a bit overrated atm.. but I also just think it is great card design and I like it as a card. I should be being knocked down by pillar of flame.
I think I might be a little sick of planeswalkers... I mean they have them properly balanced now at least but they are still really powerful repeatable effects I can't afford... unless they are bad. they really seem either amazing or useless. really binary.
I want Junk reanimator back in the meta game. It gave Jund headaches and it forced aggro to be small, streamline and all in.
chandra's pheonix does seem a bit overrated atm.. but I also just think it is great card design and I like it as a card. I should be being knocked down by pillar of flame.
I think I might be a little sick of planeswalkers... I mean they have them properly balanced now at least but they are still really powerful repeatable effects I can't afford... unless they are bad. they really seem either amazing or useless. really binary.
So you want planeswalkers to be removed from the game, just because you can't afford them... LOL
Far/Away is probably the best removal spell in Standard. Aetherling is pretty overrated. Thragtusk is a necessary evil. Bonfire is garbage. Izzet Charm should see more play.
Fiendslayer Paladin is the ****tiest ****ing paladin I have ever seen... ever
Amen! An opponent played it on me and I had to lol because I realised I could still block the thing because it had no protection from black and red, just hexproof from it.
Tidebinder mage will pick up. There seems to be a minor merfolk theme in Theros so it'll be a good fit if there's lord support.
Far/Away is probably the best removal spell in Standard. Aetherling is pretty overrated. Thragtusk is a necessary evil. Bonfire is garbage. Izzet Charm should see more play.
How is aetherling overrated? Everytime i see him come down, the game is pretty much over.
Just because WUR midrange and Jund midrange run different cards doesn't make them different decks.
But Delver was different from WRR, which was different from control. Those were much more interesting standards, in my opinion.
She's nuts in modern and legacy. But yeah, she's good in standard, but she may not even be the best planeswalker in standard right now. Relentless is way better than people give it credit for.
I think i lose any game where someone gets a double BTE.
That depends largely on the cards in the deck. If it's a Thragtusk-resto beatdown deck, then I might agree. But there are some dynamic cards in a midrange deck that lend a lot of lines of play to be had, such as non-combo Pod decks. You have the choice of sac'ing a creature for another, which may or may not be the best move depending on how the game state is, or not with where you want the game to go.
I like midrange-control decks because I feel like I have a lot of choices in my plays, all without being run over by Aggro before I get there
Also, I think Illness in the Ranks should see/ should've seen more play. Yeah, yeah, I know it only hits tokens, and curse of death's hold hits everything, but a 1cmc enchantment that shuts down Lingering souls and one of UWR's biggest finishers Assmeble the legion seems like it should've found it's self into more SBs.
Merciless Eviction
Boros Charm
Tidebinder Mage
Desecration Demon
AEtherling
Quicken
Divination
Dimir Charm
Cyclonic Rift
Dramatic Rescue
Exava, Blood Witch
Hellhole Flailer
Boros Elite
Frontline Medic
All of these card has the potential to shine more than Edward Cullen in a sunny day. Some of these have seen some play, others non. But I think they can become staples for the new standard post-rotation. Of course, Theros will bring more options and a new meta, and it is possible that some of these cards still being not played. But that's somethign we will now in a few weeks more.
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Modern
WU Thopter Party WU
EDH
UB Tasigur, the Golden Fang UB
CRUEL ULTIMATUM IST KRIEG!
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, i nearly dropped out of my seat, when i read that.
liliana is played in modern and legacy because she is overrated? and noone ever said that she is the best planeswalker in standard. so how cam you say she is overrated?
how can a card which was around for 2 years, and found home in legacy and modern and worth over 30$ be overrated?
@TE:
BTE is a very good card and not overrated, sure its not a card you just put in every deck, and it works. but in the right deck she can give you some hillarious fast plays.
how can chandra's phoenix be overrated? he is not played anywhere currently and is worth 20 cents or something?
if he sees play after rotation highly depends on the quality of burns we get there. with the current burn package he is unplayable, but lets see, if we get the right burns for him, he may see standard play again.
@Bac5656: the definition of different decks is, that they play different cards
chandra's pheonix does seem a bit overrated atm.. but I also just think it is great card design and I like it as a card. I should be being knocked down by pillar of flame.
I think I might be a little sick of planeswalkers... I mean they have them properly balanced now at least but they are still really powerful repeatable effects I can't afford... unless they are bad. they really seem either amazing or useless. really binary.
Pioneer:UR Pheonix
Modern:U Mono U Tron
EDH
GB Glissa, the traitor: Army of Cans
UW Dragonlord Ojutai: Dragonlord NOjutai
UWGDerevi, Empyrial Tactician "you cannot fight the storm"
R Zirilan of the claw. The solution to every problem is dragons
UB Etrata, the Silencer Cloning assassination
Peasant cube: Cards I own
So you want planeswalkers to be removed from the game, just because you can't afford them... LOL
Dega midrange 1-0
Modern: Jund Legacy: RUG Delver EDH: Captain Sisay
Amen! An opponent played it on me and I had to lol because I realised I could still block the thing because it had no protection from black and red, just hexproof from it.
Tidebinder mage will pick up. There seems to be a minor merfolk theme in Theros so it'll be a good fit if there's lord support.
I collect foil Stab Wound! Or as I like to call them, foil "Walk of shame."
There is nothing like dropping one on someone's Vampire Nighthawk.
Also if someone doesn't use their own removal (and 2/1's themselves) to kill a severely weakened creature, then they bleed out fast.
How is aetherling overrated? Everytime i see him come down, the game is pretty much over.
EDH:
UBGThe MimeoplasmUBG
wotc pls
Liliana is much more than a three mana verdict
BUG Reanimator
BWG Nic-Fit
BGR Punishing Nic-Fit