I have seen Rakdos's Return, Epic Experiments and the Sphinx one and i think they are all freakin amazing! but im wondering about the golgari and selesnya ones! i could see the selesnya one being populate x maybe but i have no idea about the golgari one. Any thoughts?
Aside from worldspine wurm, there has been no other spoiled cards that make 5/5 armored wurms (see the tokens in the spoiler), yet there is an art not linked to a card that shows a couple of wurms breaking through a street. Perhaps that is the selesnya mythic X spell.
XXWWGG
X 5/5 wurms with trample?
Private Mod Note
():
Rollback Post to RevisionRollBack
My favorite flavor text: Time of Heroes
Feel free to tell me yours!
Aside from worldspine wurm, there has been no other spoiled cards that make 5/5 armored wurms (see the tokens in the spoiler), yet there is an art not linked to a card that shows a couple of wurms breaking through a street. Perhaps that is the selesnya mythic X spell.
XXWWGG
X 5/5 wurms with trample?
may as well just reprint entreat the angels without miracle...haha
Aside from worldspine wurm, there has been no other spoiled cards that make 5/5 armored wurms (see the tokens in the spoiler), yet there is an art not linked to a card that shows a couple of wurms breaking through a street. Perhaps that is the selesnya mythic X spell.
XXWWGG
X 5/5 wurms with trample?
That would be too good. 22WWGG [8] for two 5/5s? All the populate + token cards have been priced at 2x the token's equivalent cmc cost (based on vanilla creatures).
The current three do: X [A thing] & X [B thing]. Look at life + draw (wu), damage + discard (rb), and reveal + free cast spells (ur).
RB also does the opposite of UW (almost). Ur is probably the odd man out.
So...
GW = Creatures + +X/+X?
BG = Reclaim + -X/-X?
XGW
Put X 1/1 green saprolings into play. Put a +1/+1 counter on up to X target creatures.
XBG
Return up to X permanent cards from your graveyard to your hand. Target creature gets -X/-X until end of turn.
They may sound broken, but the current are certain spells put together at a discount with scaling potential.
That would be too good. 22WWGG [8] for two 5/5s? All the populate + token cards have been priced at 2x the token's equivalent cmc cost (based on vanilla creatures). Probably two X/X tokens for XWWGG. 8 for two 4/4s sounds balanced. The art has only two wurms right?
That would be too good. 22WWGG [8] for two 5/5s? All the populate + token cards have been priced at 2x the token's equivalent cmc cost (based on vanilla creatures).
overpowered? what? let me introduce you to crush of wurms: costs 1 more, produces +1 token at +1p and +1t with flashback. seem way stronger than 8 for 2 5/5s. And that's just an old rare that no one really plays anymore. if it was 4/4s it would be horribad compared to entreat. frankly XXWWGG would be pretty lame for a mythic these days.
It's a cycle wich means all will get it and the namn and number crunch has 2 mytic multicolored spells left so there is a big chance for it to be a cycle.
Golgari already has two mythics. Red has no mythic. There is little chance b/g will get three.
Too powerful. It'll follow the others of the cycle in that it will do two things, one for each color. I'm going to assume something to do with tokens like WSZ and then...idk
It casts instants for free, and casts sorceries for free.
IMHO not every guild is getting in on this cycle in RtR and Gatecrash. The remainder are going to be in "Sinker," Grim Backwoods versus Slayers' Stronghold-style.
I guess OP wants it to be 'keyworded' like "dies" was. What word would you replace ETB with though?
When Aegis Angel is born?
When Huntmaster of the Fells arrives?
When Kitchen Sphinx lands?
When Faerie Imposter busts in?
When Dread Cacodemon pops in?
When Malfegor shows up?
Golgari already has two mythics. Red has no mythic. There is little chance b/g will get three.
Wizards has stated many, many times that planeswalkers don't follow themes or count towards "cycles", etc. The fact that the new walker happens to be in Golgari colors doesn't mean it takes the place in that cycle.
Private Mod Note
():
Rollback Post to RevisionRollBack
Getting into Modern if you have any commons/uncommons you want to unload for cheap (everything before Zendikar needed). My trade list.
Seems like there's 15 mythics: 5 mono colored, 5 guild leaders, and 5 other gold guild-related cards. Because of the number crunch, the Selesnya mythic looks as if it'll fall between Archon of the Trimvirate and Auger Spree in name - I'm guessing it'll be something like Assembly of { }.
Private Mod Note
():
Rollback Post to RevisionRollBack
Proud Member of the "Help Fblthp Get Home in DGM" Society
Not to rain on anyone's parade, but it doesn't look like there's room for a multicolour Golgari mythic on the name and number cruch.
The Golgari mythic probably is Vraska, unless they get some sort of artifact a la Plague Boiler.
The only unspoiled multicolour cards are what is probably the Selesnyan Wurm generator and a card that should have 'Rakdos' in the title.
Private Mod Note
():
Rollback Post to RevisionRollBack
Creator of Nyxathid Goes To Town, the M:tG blog responsible for the most LoLs
Golgari already has two mythics. Red has no mythic. There is little chance b/g will get three.
Mythics are rarely ever evenly balanced. Of course, red has a long history of getting screwed in the mythic count department dating back to the beginning of mythics. (they tried to rectify that in the last year by printing the token big, dumb intro pack dragon at mythic, though)
Also, guild colored X spell is obviously a cycle. It would be a whole lot weirder when Gatecrash comes out and 9/10 guilds have one and Golgari has a planeswalker. Esper also got more mythics than the other shards in the last gold block. (every shard got 3, but Esper got Sphinx of the Steel Wind and Ethersworn Adjudicator. You could also say 4 each if you count the walkers sort of aligned with each shard or you could just count Nicol Bolas for Grixis)
if there is a golgari one it will be something like
XGB reveal the top X cards, put one creature into play, the rest into the GY.
Fits the theme of golgari this set real well
Private Mod Note
():
Rollback Post to RevisionRollBack
Xterra06 on MTGO
Decks Im Playing:
Standard:
Ghost ride the whipRWB
Modern:
Creatureless loamRGBW
TronU
Enduring RenewalW
BurnR
Wizards has stated many, many times that planeswalkers don't follow themes or count towards "cycles", etc. The fact that the new walker happens to be in Golgari colors doesn't mean it takes the place in that cycle.
Planeswalkers don't count towards cycles, but we're talking about color balance of cards in Return to Ravnica. If the Guild X Mythic Spell is indeed a cycle, we won't see it until Sinker, but that's fine by me. I'd rather have Vraska early than some large hopefully-playable X. Though they DO look good sofar...
Seems like there's 15 mythics: 5 mono colored, 5 guild leaders, and 5 other gold guild-related cards. Because of the number crunch, the Selesnya mythic looks as if it'll fall between Archon of the Trimvirate and Auger Spree in name - I'm guessing it'll be something like Assembly of { }.
One mythic left to be spoiled, and it's gotta be Selesnya. With that art, I'm hoping it's a large Wurm Token Generator. Maybe something along the lines of 'Assault from Below'?
Effects, by color:
W - Gain Life
U - Draw Cards
U - Cast Instants from Deck
R - Cast Sorceries from Deck
R - Deal Damage
B - Discard Cards
G - Creature Tokens?
W - Populate?
XXGGWW - X 5/5 wurm tokens with trample, then populate x times?
Planeswalkers don't count towards cycles, but we're talking about color balance of cards in Return to Ravnica. If the Guild X Mythic Spell is indeed a cycle, we won't see it until Sinker, but that's fine by me. I'd rather have Vraska early than some large hopefully-playable X. Though they DO look good sofar...
One mythic left to be spoiled, and it's gotta be Selesnya. With that art, I'm hoping it's a large Wurm Token Generator. Maybe something along the lines of 'Assault from Below'?
Effects, by color:
W - Gain Life
U - Draw Cards
U - Cast Instants from Deck
R - Cast Sorceries from Deck
R - Deal Damage
B - Discard Cards
G - Creature Tokens?
W - Populate?
XXGGWW - X 5/5 wurm tokens with trample, then populate x times?
XXWWGG
X 5/5 wurms with trample?
Feel free to tell me yours!
may as well just reprint entreat the angels without miracle...haha
That would be too good. 22WWGG [8] for two 5/5s? All the populate + token cards have been priced at 2x the token's equivalent cmc cost (based on vanilla creatures).
The current three do: X [A thing] & X [B thing]. Look at life + draw (wu), damage + discard (rb), and reveal + free cast spells (ur).
RB also does the opposite of UW (almost). Ur is probably the odd man out.
So...
GW = Creatures + +X/+X?
BG = Reclaim + -X/-X?
XGW
Put X 1/1 green saprolings into play. Put a +1/+1 counter on up to X target creatures.
XBG
Return up to X permanent cards from your graveyard to your hand. Target creature gets -X/-X until end of turn.
They may sound broken, but the current are certain spells put together at a discount with scaling potential.
can somebody post a link to this art please?
That would suck and be awful
Also golgari doesn't get one, they have a planeswalker. The other mythic is only red
if golgari doesn't get one im gonna cry
overpowered? what? let me introduce you to crush of wurms: costs 1 more, produces +1 token at +1p and +1t with flashback. seem way stronger than 8 for 2 5/5s. And that's just an old rare that no one really plays anymore. if it was 4/4s it would be horribad compared to entreat. frankly XXWWGG would be pretty lame for a mythic these days.
EDH Primers
Phelddagrif - Zirilan
EDH
Thrasios+Bruse - Pang - Sasaya - Wydwen - Feather - Rona - Toshiro - Sylvia+Khorvath - Geth - QMarchesa - Firesong - Athreos - Arixmethes - Isperia - Etali - Silas+Sidar - Saskia - Virtus+Gorm - Kynaios - Naban - Aryel - Mizzix - Kazuul - Tymna+Kraum - Sidar+Tymna - Ayli - Gwendlyn - Phelddagrif 4 - Liliana - Kaervek - Phelddagrif 3 - Mairsil - Scarab - Child - Phenax - Shirei - Thada - Depala - Circu - Kytheon - GrenzoHR - Phelddagrif - Reyhan+Kraum - Toshiro - Varolz - Nin - Ojutai - Tasigur - Zedruu - Uril - Edric - Wort - Zurgo - Nahiri - Grenzo - Kozilek - Yisan - Ink-Treader - Yisan - Brago - Sidisi - Toshiro - Alexi - Sygg - Brimaz - Sek'Kuar - Marchesa - Vish Kal - Iroas - Phelddagrif - Ephara - Derevi - Glissa - Wanderer - Saffi - Melek - Xiahou Dun - Lazav - Lin Sivvi - Zirilan - Glissa
PDH - Drake - Graverobber - Izzet GM - Tallowisp - Symbiote Brawl - Feather - Ugin - Jace - Scarab - Angrath - Vraska - Kumena Oathbreaker - Wrenn&6
Golgari already has two mythics. Red has no mythic. There is little chance b/g will get three.
To solid?
to weak?
Too powerful. It'll follow the others of the cycle in that it will do two things, one for each color. I'm going to assume something to do with tokens like WSZ and then...idk
Instants and sorceries. Shrug.
Feel free to tell me yours!
It casts instants for free, and casts sorceries for free.
IMHO not every guild is getting in on this cycle in RtR and Gatecrash. The remainder are going to be in "Sinker," Grim Backwoods versus Slayers' Stronghold-style.
I̟̥͍̠ͅn̩͉̣͍̬͚ͅ ̬̬͖t̯̹̞̺͖͓̯̤h̘͍̬e͙̯͈̖̼̮ ̭̬f̺̲̲̪i͙͉̟̩̰r̪̝͚͈̝̥͍̝̲s̼̻͇̘̳͔ͅt̲̺̳̗̜̪̙ ̳̺̥̻͚̗ͅm̜̜̟̰͈͓͎͇o̝̖̮̝͇m̯̻̞̼̫̗͓̤e̩̯̬̮̩n͎̱̪̲̹͖t͇̖s̰̮ͅ,̤̲͙̻̭̻̯̹̰ ̖t̫̙̺̯͖͚̯ͅh͙̯̦̳̗̰̟e͖̪͉̼̯ ̪͕g̞̣͔a̗̦t̬̬͓͙̫̖̭̻e̩̻̯ ̜̖̦̖̤̭͙̬t̞̹̥̪͎͉ͅo͕͚͍͇̲͇͓̺ ̭̬͙͈̣̻t͈͍͙͓̫̖͙̩h̪̬̖̙e̗͈ ̗̬̟̞̺̤͉̯ͅa̦̯͚̙̜̮f͉͙̲̣̞̼t̪̤̞̣͚e̲͉̳̥r͇̪̙͚͓l̥̞̞͎̹̯̹ͅi͓̬f̮̥̬̞͈ͅe͎ ̟̩̤̳̠̯̩̯o̮̘̲p̟͚̣̞͉͓e͍̩̣n͔̼͕͚̜e̬̱d̼̘͎̖̹͍̮̠,͖̺̭̱̮ ̣̲͖̬̪̭̥a̪͚n̟̲̝̤̤̞̗d̘̱̗͇̮͕̳͕͔ ͖̞͉͎t̹̙͎h̰̱͉̗e̪̞̱̝̹̩ͅ ̠̱̩̭̦p̯̙e͓o̳͚̰̯̺̱̰͔̘p̬͎̱̣̼̩͇l̗̟̖͚̠e̱͉͔̱̦̬̟̙ ̖͚̪͔̼̦w̺̖̤̱e͖̗̻̦͓̖̘̜r̭̥e͔̹̫̱͕̦̰͕ ̗͔̠p̠̗͍͍̱̳̠r̰͔͎̰o͉̥͓̰͚̥s̟͚̹̱͔̣t͉̙̳̖͖̪̮r̥̘̥͙̹a͉̟̫̟̳̠̟̭t͈̜̰͈͎e̞̣̭̲̬ ͚̗̯̟͙i͍͖̰̘̦͖͉ṇ̮̻̯̦̲̩͍ ̦̮͚̫̤t͉͖̫͕ͅͅh͙̮̻̘̣̮̼e͕̺ ͙l͕̠͎̰̥i̲͓͉̲g̫̳̟͈͇̖h̠̦̖t͓̯͎̗ ̳̪̘̟̙̩̦o̫̲f̙͔̰̙̠ ̹̪̗͇̯t͖̼̼͉͖̬h̹͇̩e͚̖̺̤͉̹͕̪ ͚͓̭̝̺G͎̗̯̩o̫̯̮̟̮̳̘d̜̲͙̠-̩̳̯̲̗̜P̹̘̥͉̝h͍͈̗̖̝ͅa͍̗̮̼̗r̜̖͇̙̺a̭̺͔̞̳͈o̪̣͓̯̬͙̯̰̗h̖̦͈̥̯͔.͇̣̙̝
Blue is instants, red is sorceries, on many cards.
Wizards has stated many, many times that planeswalkers don't follow themes or count towards "cycles", etc. The fact that the new walker happens to be in Golgari colors doesn't mean it takes the place in that cycle.
To me, it just looks like 2 mirrored cards, Azorius vs Rakdos in Guardian of the Guildpact / Enemy of the Guildpact style, and then a cool version of Genesis Wave that seemed izzet in flavor...
Seems like there's 15 mythics: 5 mono colored, 5 guild leaders, and 5 other gold guild-related cards. Because of the number crunch, the Selesnya mythic looks as if it'll fall between Archon of the Trimvirate and Auger Spree in name - I'm guessing it'll be something like Assembly of { }.
Proud Member of the "Help Fblthp Get Home in DGM" Society
The Golgari mythic probably is Vraska, unless they get some sort of artifact a la Plague Boiler.
The only unspoiled multicolour cards are what is probably the Selesnyan Wurm generator and a card that should have 'Rakdos' in the title.
Creator of Nyxathid Goes To Town, the M:tG blog responsible for the most LoLs
http://nyxathidgoestotown.wordpress.com/
If you like what you see, please comment and subscribe!
Mythics are rarely ever evenly balanced. Of course, red has a long history of getting screwed in the mythic count department dating back to the beginning of mythics. (they tried to rectify that in the last year by printing the token big, dumb intro pack dragon at mythic, though)
Also, guild colored X spell is obviously a cycle. It would be a whole lot weirder when Gatecrash comes out and 9/10 guilds have one and Golgari has a planeswalker. Esper also got more mythics than the other shards in the last gold block. (every shard got 3, but Esper got Sphinx of the Steel Wind and Ethersworn Adjudicator. You could also say 4 each if you count the walkers sort of aligned with each shard or you could just count Nicol Bolas for Grixis)
XGB reveal the top X cards, put one creature into play, the rest into the GY.
Fits the theme of golgari this set real well
Decks Im Playing:
Ghost ride the whipRWB
Modern:
Creatureless loamRGBW
TronU
Enduring RenewalW
BurnR
Legacy:
PoxB
Nic-fit GWB
Junk GWB
BurnR
Planeswalkers don't count towards cycles, but we're talking about color balance of cards in Return to Ravnica. If the Guild X Mythic Spell is indeed a cycle, we won't see it until Sinker, but that's fine by me. I'd rather have Vraska early than some large hopefully-playable X. Though they DO look good sofar...
One mythic left to be spoiled, and it's gotta be Selesnya. With that art, I'm hoping it's a large Wurm Token Generator. Maybe something along the lines of 'Assault from Below'?
Effects, by color:
W - Gain Life
U - Draw Cards
U - Cast Instants from Deck
R - Cast Sorceries from Deck
R - Deal Damage
B - Discard Cards
G - Creature Tokens?
W - Populate?
XXGGWW - X 5/5 wurm tokens with trample, then populate x times?
Minimum:
6 = 2 5/5 wurms w/ trample
8 = 4 5/5 wurms w/ trample
10 = 6 5/5 wurms w/ trample
OR
6 = 1 5/5 wurms w/ trample + 1 largest token copied
8 = 2 5/5 wurms w/ trample + 1 largest token copied
10 = 3 5/5 wurms w/ trample + 1 largest token copied
On Liliana of the Veil:
Speculation that it is:
Armada Wurm
2GGWW
Trample
When ~ ETB put a 5/5 Trample Wurm Token on the battlefield
5/5
or whatever the correct templating of that would be.
Standard
W.I.P.
EDH
WNorn Tokens