Edit: I'm still kind of curious how the people that are fine with the DJ art would react to a card art featuring a weapon that is, in terms of outward appearance, a real-world glock, but shoots little fireballs instead of bullets ... and its user is wearing some big pauldron fantasy armor.
I look forward to seeing people argument for the Taylor Swift Legendary Creature card in a suit dual wielding glocks while driving a Tesla is in fact very Magic lol
I think it's pretty much all some form of extravagant decoration.
But we see the exoskeleton is on the turntable, so it's doing.....something, but it's super unclear as to why which at that point just makes this a case of "just throw some tech in the art, who cares?"
The worst bit is the rope work holding it together... That just screams somebody said "It's high tech, but still samurai look!" at a board meeting. It's so dumb. Seriously some of the worst/dumbest art I've seen in Magic ever.
But it's just one card, and they do make tons of other amazing looking cards.
I have explained it a few times, but the gist of it is, I think this is way to "modern sci fi" compared to Kaladesh and old brothers war stuff because tis visually looks too "modern" compared to what we've seen in magic.
Even the old high tech stuff was still very much rooted in "fantasy" art direction. Kinda like how something like steampunk styles has stuff like air balloons and fairly high tech stuff (Like the old robot armies and Kaladesh vehicles etc), but again, it was all rooted in "fantasy" style. There's this tech threshold that they never go past.
The biker mice from mars I could kinda accept, because of vehhicles we've seen previously (even though the artwork here again looks very modern sci fi, and yes, even compared to the old stuff and fleetwheel cruisers and ***** like that) The whole art direction of the modern aspects are way too modern. I like what we've seen of the ancient stuff though, and the full art lands depicting old Kamigawa are some of my favourite lands they have ever made.
The DJ in particular is an absolutely terrible piece of artwork that doesn't blend the old and new meeting. It's a ******* dj standing with exo skeleton stuff on his body with ******* rope tying the fingers and plates together because "oh this will totally look like a nod to old school samurais" while he's ******* spinning hologram vinyl with pyro shooting out of his shoulders. In a club.
The rope between the exo skeleton fingers is the worst part of the whole thing to me. It just looks so dumb and lazy. So they have giant skyskraper cities holograms, electricity everywere and all types of *****, but you need rope for the fingers??? It's so dumb. I can't get over how bad that image is really. Looks like some loading screen for a fan made dota 2 skin or something. Terrible terrible terrible piece of art to showcase Magic.
I love sci fi stuff in general way more than fantasy stuff, but Magic to me is fantasy game and not futuristic and modern.
It's all highly subjective though, so I'm not saying other people can't like it or disagree, I just find the futuristic stuff way too modern (again, yes, even compared to old brothers war stuff. Very much so)
Again, fair enough, and I can even understand that the DJ art can be quite jarring (I would still argue that this is for me at least something conceivable for a cyberpunk setting on a world where samurai did and are factoring in, basically a style this DJ is using, but again, this is clearly all subjective).
What I still don't get is these arbitrary lines that some people draw when it comes to technology and modern day cultural influences appearing in fantasy. Fantasy is not defined as 'swords and arrows and absolute monarchies stuck in medieval eras where the fastest way to travel is via horses'. Kamigawa hasn't been replaced with 'cyberpunk japan' - world, it has developed like our world did as well, but still in its own way, caused by the fact that magic exists, that Kamis exist etc. It is still very much fantasy, just with modern (and fantastic) technology. There are countless worlds in the multiverse, and at least some HAVE to go through some kind of technological evolution over time. Kaladesh is in fact worse than Kamigawa in that regard, it might look a bit more fantastic because of the swirling patterns and aether being a fantastic resource, but ultimately it is in a quite extreme industrial revolution and its fantastic elements are so surpressed that natural mages were practically looked down upon by and removed from society until very recently. Kamigawa now looks a bit more similar to our world through cyberpunk trappings, but it has way more fantastic elements in it than Kaladesh in my opinion. So my question is still why this specifically is so fundamentally unpalatable for some people?
There's very much a line for me with a ******* dj spinning hologram vinyl in Magic (a game set in fantasy. Yes, even the old stuff and Kaladesh), but I doubt we'll ever agree on this. I'm not trying to sound snarky by the way, art is subjective so who cares either way nobody is right or wrong with this stuff, I just hope future sets don't get as high tech as this.
I have explained it a few times, but the gist of it is, I think this is way to "modern sci fi" compared to Kaladesh and old brothers war stuff because tis visually looks too "modern" compared to what we've seen in magic.
Even the old high tech stuff was still very much rooted in "fantasy" art direction. Kinda like how something like steampunk styles has stuff like air balloons and fairly high tech stuff (Like the old robot armies and Kaladesh vehicles etc), but again, it was all rooted in "fantasy" style. There's this tech threshold that they never go past.
The biker mice from mars I could kinda accept, because of vehhicles we've seen previously (even though the artwork here again looks very modern sci fi, and yes, even compared to the old stuff and fleetwheel cruisers and ***** like that) The whole art direction of the modern aspects are way too modern. I like what we've seen of the ancient stuff though, and the full art lands depicting old Kamigawa are some of my favourite lands they have ever made.
The DJ in particular is an absolutely terrible piece of artwork that doesn't blend the old and new meeting. It's a ******* dj standing with exo skeleton stuff on his body with ******* rope tying the fingers and plates together because "oh this will totally look like a nod to old school samurais" while he's ******* spinning hologram vinyl with pyro shooting out of his shoulders. In a club.
The rope between the exo skeleton fingers is the worst part of the whole thing to me. It just looks so dumb and lazy. So they have giant skyskraper cities holograms, electricity everywere and all types of *****, but you need rope for the fingers??? It's so dumb. I can't get over how bad that image is really. Looks like some loading screen for a fan made dota 2 skin or something. Terrible terrible terrible piece of art to showcase Magic.
I love sci fi stuff in general way more than fantasy stuff, but Magic to me is fantasy game and not futuristic and modern.
It's all highly subjective though, so I'm not saying other people can't like it or disagree, I just find the futuristic stuff way too modern (again, yes, even compared to old brothers war stuff. Very much so)
a DJ playing some music isn't even showing the height of Kamigawan technology in this era. If you don't like futuristic technology in your fantasy stories then Magic hasn't been up your alley since pretty much its beginning (see the Thran's satellite launches and all the robots of the Brother's War for example).
I disagree and I have explained a few times why the futuristic art style in this is way too sci fi, and that's coming from somebody who's favourite plane in terms of art direction is Kaladesh (the most "high tech" plane we've previously seen).
The DJ ***** is just too much for me. It looks ******* ridiculous to me.
I look forward to seeing people argument for the Taylor Swift Legendary Creature card in a suit dual wielding glocks while driving a Tesla is in fact very Magic lol
Yes
The worst bit is the rope work holding it together... That just screams somebody said "It's high tech, but still samurai look!" at a board meeting. It's so dumb. Seriously some of the worst/dumbest art I've seen in Magic ever.
But it's just one card, and they do make tons of other amazing looking cards.
There's very much a line for me with a ******* dj spinning hologram vinyl in Magic (a game set in fantasy. Yes, even the old stuff and Kaladesh), but I doubt we'll ever agree on this. I'm not trying to sound snarky by the way, art is subjective so who cares either way
Even the old high tech stuff was still very much rooted in "fantasy" art direction. Kinda like how something like steampunk styles has stuff like air balloons and fairly high tech stuff (Like the old robot armies and Kaladesh vehicles etc), but again, it was all rooted in "fantasy" style. There's this tech threshold that they never go past.
The biker mice from mars I could kinda accept, because of vehhicles we've seen previously (even though the artwork here again looks very modern sci fi, and yes, even compared to the old stuff and fleetwheel cruisers and ***** like that) The whole art direction of the modern aspects are way too modern. I like what we've seen of the ancient stuff though, and the full art lands depicting old Kamigawa are some of my favourite lands they have ever made.
The DJ in particular is an absolutely terrible piece of artwork that doesn't blend the old and new meeting. It's a ******* dj standing with exo skeleton stuff on his body with ******* rope tying the fingers and plates together because "oh this will totally look like a nod to old school samurais" while he's ******* spinning hologram vinyl with pyro shooting out of his shoulders. In a club.
The rope between the exo skeleton fingers is the worst part of the whole thing to me. It just looks so dumb and lazy. So they have giant skyskraper cities holograms, electricity everywere and all types of *****, but you need rope for the fingers??? It's so dumb. I can't get over how bad that image is really. Looks like some loading screen for a fan made dota 2 skin or something. Terrible terrible terrible piece of art to showcase Magic.
I love sci fi stuff in general way more than fantasy stuff, but Magic to me is fantasy game and not futuristic and modern.
It's all highly subjective though, so I'm not saying other people can't like it or disagree, I just find the futuristic stuff way too modern (again, yes, even compared to old brothers war stuff. Very much so)
I disagree and I have explained a few times why the futuristic art style in this is way too sci fi, and that's coming from somebody who's favourite plane in terms of art direction is Kaladesh (the most "high tech" plane we've previously seen).
The DJ ***** is just too much for me. It looks ******* ridiculous to me.
Lol what the **** is this ***** man