The old precons are bad entry points to standard,and you think Commander is better? Don't make me laugh.
Damn you can't even debate. Your narrative that old precons were a nice entry points for standard gets challenged and what you do? You strawman some weird opinion on me instead of defending your position. Because you can't defend that. It's a *****ty opinion.
Commander decks are no entry point for standard, but at least are an entry point for commander.
Old precons were entry point for just wasting money.
It's people like you is why I went from being indifferent to Commander to outright hating it. Commander this, Commander that. You think 4 60-card base rules precons is more than enough? I bet you haven't been in a situation where you are the minority, and you got nothing, while the majority got everything.
Ahahahah, tried to be a commander player before 2011? That's how it went.
Commander players got what they deserved not by salty crying on the internet but by buying products and making communities.
All I ask for is to consistently, every year, to have 10 of them, spread out throught the year, rather than having just the one release. I don't care if there are 100 Commander decks released in one year so long as I get 10 60-card base rules precons. 2021 is OK. What about 2022, 2023?
Have you tried writing a letter to santa?
You don't even understanding how selling products work. It's not a matter of how many commander precons VS how many 60-cards precons. It's not a matter of doing 10 60-cards precons and then printing 100,200, 300 commander precons because we need to keep commander players happy. It's a matter that they won't make those 10 *****ty precons no matter what because they know they won't sell. Printing more commander precons still won't help selling this *****. Printing less commander precons still won't help selling this *****. Get a reality check.
Everything in the world revolving around me? How is asking for something aimed at casual 60-card players as something that revolves around me? I already got over that the Planeswalker Decks are gone. I just want some sort of precon aimed at 60-card casual players. Is that so hard to ask? It doesn't have to be Standard legal, although it would be great if it was.
Yep, it's asking too much. Wotc won't make a product knowing that you will be the only one buying. Deal with it.
How i feel about competitive players and casual players in EDH: The competitive are german tourists, the casual are italian tourists, both in a italian beach. The italians asking themselves "why are the germans here?" make a legitimate question, the answer is because the beach is beautiful, no matter the country you came from. The italians wanting to ban the germans are dumb, because if the germans pay for their stay and follow the rules like everyone else, they have the right to be in the beach. Hovewer, if the germans started to ask themselves "why are the italians here?"... they would be dumb as hell.
He's upset like many older players that Commander completely just bumrushed "classic" 60-card casual Magic and it just wasn't even kind of subtle. Commander just TOOK OVER (good, bad, whatever..it's HAPPENING!!)
All the 'casual' precons are now Commander precons. 60-card casual isn't really a thing they even talk about anymore and that's a little sad. People have been playing that way since Alpha. Our format had regular internet content & articles each week. We had metas. We had staples. We had entire articles devoted to game 'casual' game theory. Yep, just like Commander. 20 years worth of it. It really wasn't a bunch of blathering drooling idiots sitting around their kitchen tables "just playing whatever crap we had lying around" like everyone seems to think.
"60 cards casual" was always a *****ty format. It was so *****ty that it doesn't even have a proper name. It was played by people because they didn't know better. As soon as they did, they moved from that failed "format". When a new casual emerged, people started to play that in bulk. Because commander was an improvement.
You may personally disagree, but the vast majority of customers spoke loudly.
Wrong. WOTC could have easily charged you $25 for the Innistrad ones, but guess what. those ones are the $50 variety, according to preorder on most stores I visited. WOTC will never charge $25 for Commander decks ever again. I could be wrong though, maybe the Kamigawa one will be the $25 kind.
Sounds like the problem is you buying from *****ty sites. I can get them for the same prices as the Kaldheim ones.
Speaking of entry points for standard, those Commander decks are entry points for standard? Most of the deck isn't even standard legal. Do you know what this means? People who learn through Commander will stick with Commander, not like they are going to play Standard anyway considering how it sucks right now.
And you think that old precons were entry points for standard? Planeswalker decks were entry point for standards? Are you that delusional?
You know what happened when someone wanted to play standard with the old precon system? They tossed away their precon and started building a new. Nowadays we just eliminated a passage.
If every single 60-card base rules precons are failures, it's because WOTC sucked at making them good. First few Duel Decks, good. The last few ones, horrible, well according to most other people anyway. This also tells me another thing, which I said in my initial rant a few months ago. WOTC has no confidence in the 60-card base rules game, which is why we get Commander and more Commander now. What's to say that WOTC does something like, "Commander is printing us money, Standard isn't. Why are we even trying with Standard anymore?"
So they failed making a product almost all the time but they should continue trying?
While commander precons are always successfull, they should stop making them?
Maybe if "60 cards casual" products failed so much, it's because they have no reason to exists in the first place.
You aren't even coherent. You talk about standard, then duel decks, then standard again. Duel decks were never standard legal. They were an entry point for nothing. They weren't useful in any 60-cards format.
I already mentioned the pioneer decks. When I initially ranted about that, and that was when we got Commander decks in the D&D set instead of Planeswalker decks, it is because those who like to play 60-card base rules precons get relegated to just 4 choices for 2021.
Be happy about that instead of ranting. 4 decks is still more than what you deserved.
WOTC cares about money now. They don't care about the game. Magic is dying. Yup, I said it. Magic is dying, well at least the ruleset in which the game is founded upon is dying, at least on Paper. WOTC can just half-ass their Standard sets, because they know Commander will print them money. If 60-card base rules wasn't dying, then WOTC would be confident in printing more 60-card base rules precons.
Ahahahahah, how can you be so short-sighted? Stop thinking that everything in the world revolves around you. They stopped printing products that you personally like. They welcomed and are entertaining tons of new players with commander. Mtg is nowhere near close to dying and when it will start to decline, it won't be because of commander.
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How i feel about competitive players and casual players in EDH: The competitive are german tourists, the casual are italian tourists, both in a italian beach. The italians asking themselves "why are the germans here?" make a legitimate question, the answer is because the beach is beautiful, no matter the country you came from. The italians wanting to ban the germans are dumb, because if the germans pay for their stay and follow the rules like everyone else, they have the right to be in the beach. Hovewer, if the germans started to ask themselves "why are the italians here?"... they would be dumb as hell.
Ok, so everybody likes Commander, and that whoever prefers 60-card base rules deserve nothing. Not only that, everybody wants precons to cost $50 and not $15.
You are irrational it's not even fun. There are expensive commander precons and cheap commander precons. Zendikar Rising, Kaldheim and Commander Legends all had cheap precons. Nowhere they said they would remove cheap precons. In fact Innistrad ones won't cost as much as Strixhaven/Forgotten Realms ones.
Also a 15$ commander precons is worth more than a 5$ old precons, because you don't have to discard that as soon as you learn how to play. You talk about entry products for standard, but old precons were absolutely worthless for playing standard.
The only time I care and rant about it is if WOTC would rather release more Commander decks while releasing even less 60-card base rules precons, y'know, Theme Deck, Intro Pack, Planeswalker deck, Duel Deck, Event Deck, Clash Pack, Arena Starter Kits, Challenger decks etc. If WOTC can only limit themselves to a certain number of precons per year, and they would rather have almost all of them be Commander decks, while leaving close to nothing for 60-card base rules precons, I will rant about it.
I wonder why they would keep releasing successfull products and stop releasing failed ones.... it's a mystery, really...
2022 will project to have up to 20 Commander decks
Wow i wonder why. Oh yeah because they know they will sell them.
You are actually gonna get a 60 card precon this year. The pioneer decks. So why are you ranting?
Oh yeah, you are already saying they will fail. Eheheh, i really wonder why wotc doesn't print more of those...
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How i feel about competitive players and casual players in EDH: The competitive are german tourists, the casual are italian tourists, both in a italian beach. The italians asking themselves "why are the germans here?" make a legitimate question, the answer is because the beach is beautiful, no matter the country you came from. The italians wanting to ban the germans are dumb, because if the germans pay for their stay and follow the rules like everyone else, they have the right to be in the beach. Hovewer, if the germans started to ask themselves "why are the italians here?"... they would be dumb as hell.
I'm pretty sure I already read this rant with the almost exact same words somewhere else multiple times. If you're so much upset of how the game is today, maybe is better for you to not play it at all anymore and let the other people enjoy it.
Ah yes the good ol' "if you don't like it leave" logic, because you can't not like things in something you enjoy, because if you do then it means you hate it.
Actually that's the argument held by signofzeta. Since he likes and wants old precons, we must have old precons. No matter if old precons were faulty products useful almost to no one. No matter if the majority of people like commander precons more. No matter if wotc sells more commander precon. Everyone must discard commander precons and accept old precons because signofzeta said so. His multiple and long rants are worth more than the opinion of everyone else.
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How i feel about competitive players and casual players in EDH: The competitive are german tourists, the casual are italian tourists, both in a italian beach. The italians asking themselves "why are the germans here?" make a legitimate question, the answer is because the beach is beautiful, no matter the country you came from. The italians wanting to ban the germans are dumb, because if the germans pay for their stay and follow the rules like everyone else, they have the right to be in the beach. Hovewer, if the germans started to ask themselves "why are the italians here?"... they would be dumb as hell.
You really want to reach that there are zero possible answers, but that’s more about your lack of imagination as opposed to any reasonable stance. *shrugs* It’s moot though.
That tends to happen after 10+ years of establishing canon. You can't just wash it away with a single stroke.
If by lack of imagination you mean that i don't accept "look! New gods!" bull***** (hardly a reasonable stance), so be it and i'm glad that is like that.
You are just a storyline-ignorant who doesn't care about any pre-established canon and would be happy to gobble any retcon wotc attempt.
Not moot until you present a workable reason to completely re-establish the rules of the plane with the most established lore/canon. Which yet you didn't.
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Ahahah nice, the plane with the biggest history of the whole multiverse suddenly has "new gods", deal with it! And you think that's a good solution? Speaks plenty about your lore competence.
Arbitrary = bad. You can't wash away 10 years of history and lore and pretend people to blindly accept it. I mean you'll gladly do it apparently, but others won't.
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I know that the satanic panic was real, i'm just saying it wasn't the main reason we didn't get gods in old Dominaria. They didn't put them in sets or storyline because everything being false gods and having planeswalkers do stuff instead were major lore points. Otherwise we would have got them along demons, instead of waiting Theros.
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How i feel about competitive players and casual players in EDH: The competitive are german tourists, the casual are italian tourists, both in a italian beach. The italians asking themselves "why are the germans here?" make a legitimate question, the answer is because the beach is beautiful, no matter the country you came from. The italians wanting to ban the germans are dumb, because if the germans pay for their stay and follow the rules like everyone else, they have the right to be in the beach. Hovewer, if the germans started to ask themselves "why are the italians here?"... they would be dumb as hell.
Yes, implying you have standards while anyone who disagrees with you does not is a good way to prove your point. You’re also jumping to a bunch of conclusions.
And you have posted baseless ***** for like 2 pages, your point was just "i don't care about old canon and retcons, so no one else should". Try to post some facts if you can.
If you have any old story where the dominarian gods act like the Theros/Amonkhet/Kaldheim ones, post it and shut me up.
If you have any decent reason for gods on Dominaria to show up after centuries of inactivity, post it and shut me up.
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Nope, it was because they were worried making creatures the type "God" might offend religious people (like how they stopped printing demons for many years, or removed pentagrams from art).
Yet demons appeared in the first sets and reappered way before Theros, while gods didn't? Weird.
Demons and evil creatures, embodiment of black mana always appeared in earlier stories, while gods didn't and it was always a big deal that the god was false and was actually just a planeswaker/avatar/elemental/something else? Weird.
All that means is there would need to be an explanation for why they didn’t do anything. Seriously, mountains out of molehills.
Good luck with that. I'm pretty sure there are plenty of reasonable explainations to why Svyelun didn't intervene while merfolks were genocided by ice age/homarid/phyrexians or why Gaea watched Yawgmoth becoming a death cloud, corrupting and reanimating the very soil of Dominaria, while they will show up to help Jace defeat a dimished version of the old Phyrexia they ignored.
But let's not lie, you will be happy with any half-assed explaination they will bring out for this, only the unfortunate people who have standards regargind storylines will have a problem with this.
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The problem isn't with printing dominarian cards with the subtype "god". It's having gods showing up and doing stuff in a storyline set. Because dominarian gods don't do that and have never done that.
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There is no story implications because being a God does not inherently mean something. You keep saying that there is some big, huge travesty, but in the end you haven’t given any reasonable answer for it.
"hey god please, there are thousands of people/worshippers dying in this catasthrophe, the whole plane is actually risking to get destroyed or completely changed, can you come and help us?"
"STFU i'm a god, i have no implications and i'm not required to do anything. I'll just sit back and do nothing. Now excuse me while i'm showing up centuries later for the first time to partecipate in this minor event with my new friends the neowalkers"
***** storytelling is ***** storytelling. You can gobble on that or not understand it but it will still be ***** storytelling.
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Let's go retcons!
If you can't understand the story implications of having gods on Dominaria and how it doesn't make sense it's not my fault.
Can't wait to see Gaea not showing up for the phyrexian invasion but showing up because Jace asked pretty please.
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Or, they felt like having God as a type would be unwise. The logic you’re using also suggests Dominaria had no Humans back then. Also likewise suggests no Phyrexians ever showed up there too.
Human was the default type so they felt no need to spell it out. When they updated the creature types, they added humans on Dominaria. They added no gods.
Phyrexian is basically a nationality and not real type, since you can have phyrexian dragons, phyrexian horrors and so on. Same as humans for the update.
You may be right about the controversy regarding a "god" type IF false gods weren't such a big deal in the old stories. Which they were.
Change the rules and standards 25 years later, let's go retcons!
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Considering we've only had one Dominaria set released after the God type was introduced, I don't think we can say "it never worked like that" (it may very well have worked like that if the God type had existed at the time).
I wonder why the god type didn't exist back then and was introduced only in Theros.
Oh yeah because there were no real gods on Dominaria.
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Ilharg, the Raze-Boar is a God, despite being (from what I can tell, anyway) just a big boar. It seems to be a God just because the Gruul worship it as such. So if we do get Dominarian Gods, it could be because they're worshipped as gods, regardless of whatever they truly are?
Never worked like that on Dominaria, the whole character of Karona is based on things not working this way.
Ilharg isn't just a random boar, it is one of the forgotten old gods that became dormant after the guildpact.
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Damn you can't even debate. Your narrative that old precons were a nice entry points for standard gets challenged and what you do? You strawman some weird opinion on me instead of defending your position. Because you can't defend that. It's a *****ty opinion.
Commander decks are no entry point for standard, but at least are an entry point for commander.
Old precons were entry point for just wasting money.
Ahahahah, tried to be a commander player before 2011? That's how it went.
Commander players got what they deserved not by salty crying on the internet but by buying products and making communities.
Have you tried writing a letter to santa?
You don't even understanding how selling products work. It's not a matter of how many commander precons VS how many 60-cards precons. It's not a matter of doing 10 60-cards precons and then printing 100,200, 300 commander precons because we need to keep commander players happy. It's a matter that they won't make those 10 *****ty precons no matter what because they know they won't sell. Printing more commander precons still won't help selling this *****. Printing less commander precons still won't help selling this *****. Get a reality check.
Yep, it's asking too much. Wotc won't make a product knowing that you will be the only one buying. Deal with it.
"60 cards casual" was always a *****ty format. It was so *****ty that it doesn't even have a proper name. It was played by people because they didn't know better. As soon as they did, they moved from that failed "format". When a new casual emerged, people started to play that in bulk. Because commander was an improvement.
You may personally disagree, but the vast majority of customers spoke loudly.
Sounds like the problem is you buying from *****ty sites. I can get them for the same prices as the Kaldheim ones.
And you think that old precons were entry points for standard? Planeswalker decks were entry point for standards? Are you that delusional?
You know what happened when someone wanted to play standard with the old precon system? They tossed away their precon and started building a new. Nowadays we just eliminated a passage.
So they failed making a product almost all the time but they should continue trying?
While commander precons are always successfull, they should stop making them?
Maybe if "60 cards casual" products failed so much, it's because they have no reason to exists in the first place.
You aren't even coherent. You talk about standard, then duel decks, then standard again. Duel decks were never standard legal. They were an entry point for nothing. They weren't useful in any 60-cards format.
Be happy about that instead of ranting. 4 decks is still more than what you deserved.
Ahahahahah, how can you be so short-sighted? Stop thinking that everything in the world revolves around you. They stopped printing products that you personally like. They welcomed and are entertaining tons of new players with commander. Mtg is nowhere near close to dying and when it will start to decline, it won't be because of commander.
You are irrational it's not even fun. There are expensive commander precons and cheap commander precons. Zendikar Rising, Kaldheim and Commander Legends all had cheap precons. Nowhere they said they would remove cheap precons. In fact Innistrad ones won't cost as much as Strixhaven/Forgotten Realms ones.
Also a 15$ commander precons is worth more than a 5$ old precons, because you don't have to discard that as soon as you learn how to play. You talk about entry products for standard, but old precons were absolutely worthless for playing standard.
I wonder why they would keep releasing successfull products and stop releasing failed ones.... it's a mystery, really...
Wow i wonder why. Oh yeah because they know they will sell them.
You are actually gonna get a 60 card precon this year. The pioneer decks. So why are you ranting?
Oh yeah, you are already saying they will fail. Eheheh, i really wonder why wotc doesn't print more of those...
Actually that's the argument held by signofzeta. Since he likes and wants old precons, we must have old precons. No matter if old precons were faulty products useful almost to no one. No matter if the majority of people like commander precons more. No matter if wotc sells more commander precon. Everyone must discard commander precons and accept old precons because signofzeta said so. His multiple and long rants are worth more than the opinion of everyone else.
That tends to happen after 10+ years of establishing canon. You can't just wash it away with a single stroke.
If by lack of imagination you mean that i don't accept "look! New gods!" bull***** (hardly a reasonable stance), so be it and i'm glad that is like that.
You are just a storyline-ignorant who doesn't care about any pre-established canon and would be happy to gobble any retcon wotc attempt.
Not moot until you present a workable reason to completely re-establish the rules of the plane with the most established lore/canon. Which yet you didn't.
Retcons tend to be like that
Retcon that doesn't make sense
Ahahah nice, the plane with the biggest history of the whole multiverse suddenly has "new gods", deal with it! And you think that's a good solution? Speaks plenty about your lore competence.
Arbitrary = bad. You can't wash away 10 years of history and lore and pretend people to blindly accept it. I mean you'll gladly do it apparently, but others won't.
And you have posted baseless ***** for like 2 pages, your point was just "i don't care about old canon and retcons, so no one else should". Try to post some facts if you can.
If you have any old story where the dominarian gods act like the Theros/Amonkhet/Kaldheim ones, post it and shut me up.
If you have any decent reason for gods on Dominaria to show up after centuries of inactivity, post it and shut me up.
Yet demons appeared in the first sets and reappered way before Theros, while gods didn't? Weird.
Demons and evil creatures, embodiment of black mana always appeared in earlier stories, while gods didn't and it was always a big deal that the god was false and was actually just a planeswaker/avatar/elemental/something else? Weird.
Good luck with that. I'm pretty sure there are plenty of reasonable explainations to why Svyelun didn't intervene while merfolks were genocided by ice age/homarid/phyrexians or why Gaea watched Yawgmoth becoming a death cloud, corrupting and reanimating the very soil of Dominaria, while they will show up to help Jace defeat a dimished version of the old Phyrexia they ignored.
But let's not lie, you will be happy with any half-assed explaination they will bring out for this, only the unfortunate people who have standards regargind storylines will have a problem with this.
"hey god please, there are thousands of people/worshippers dying in this catasthrophe, the whole plane is actually risking to get destroyed or completely changed, can you come and help us?"
"STFU i'm a god, i have no implications and i'm not required to do anything. I'll just sit back and do nothing. Now excuse me while i'm showing up centuries later for the first time to partecipate in this minor event with my new friends the neowalkers"
***** storytelling is ***** storytelling. You can gobble on that or not understand it but it will still be ***** storytelling.
Let's go retcons!
If you can't understand the story implications of having gods on Dominaria and how it doesn't make sense it's not my fault.
Can't wait to see Gaea not showing up for the phyrexian invasion but showing up because Jace asked pretty please.
Human was the default type so they felt no need to spell it out. When they updated the creature types, they added humans on Dominaria. They added no gods.
Phyrexian is basically a nationality and not real type, since you can have phyrexian dragons, phyrexian horrors and so on. Same as humans for the update.
You may be right about the controversy regarding a "god" type IF false gods weren't such a big deal in the old stories. Which they were.
Change the rules and standards 25 years later, let's go retcons!
I wonder why the god type didn't exist back then and was introduced only in Theros.
Oh yeah because there were no real gods on Dominaria.
Never worked like that on Dominaria, the whole character of Karona is based on things not working this way.
Ilharg isn't just a random boar, it is one of the forgotten old gods that became dormant after the guildpact.