“Why couldn't they just create some $15 60-card base rules precons that are upgradable? Why are they so incompetent in making such a product?”
“It's as if WOTC is so incompetent at making $15 60-card base rules precons that they gave up.”
The answer is simple: because Wizards understands that the secondary market exists and no product can be competitive at the $15 price tag. $30-$40 precon decks seem to be the sweet spot. They can put in ~$50-$60 worth of value, include 1-of’s, maybe 2-of’s of the pricey cards, and while you may not have a tournament winner, at least you won’t die on turn 3 while having a miserable experience. A $15 deck would need so many upgrades there wouldn’t be anything left of the $15 deck by the time you shuffle up, therefore there is no market for such a product.
Wizards isn’t incompetent for not making $15 decks, but you likely are for thinking they can and should.
most of it doesn't even appeal to me because its universes beyond. this all right after we were supposed to be hyped for upcoming innistrad previews, which were hot on the heels of idk whatever the last set was that just came out, forgotten realms? they're getting difficult to track now too.
its just too much. they answered complaints about product flood with a deluge.
i should be hyped for a brothers war set. i loved the book, i've read the things every single year since it was first published. i loved all of that stuff. i've wanted a proper set for it for decades now... and yet... i don't give a ****. it'll just be more of the same turn offs. all the value at mythic, too many variant borders and arts, no time to actually digest and play with the set before we're on to the next thing.
cool?
i'm sure the pioneer decks will be turds that are a mediocre entry point to the format... and has that format even gained traction anywhere? does anyone even care? i'm sure there'll be 1 hot card just to make the kit sell.
then theres universes beyond, thats just too much. way too much. i hate this idea. i'm not alone. now we get it jammed down our throats like... well use whatever metaphor you prefer but regardless, its not cool.
i didn't like the forgotten realms setting, a lot of people didn't, so here's some baldur's gate about it but now its mixed with your commander cards so you commander players are forced into it. oh you bought so much! you love the setting! universes beyond is a hit! -its manipulative bull***** right here.
it wouldn't be so bad except that these are also game pieces. these are also game pieces that are generally pushed. these are also game pieces that are generally pushed to sell product, so if you want to stay relevant and not get absolutely steam rolled by whoever at whatever event, you're sure as ***** buying into it. that's just not fair any more.
frankly, as hyped as i should be for some of these products, i give zero ****s and this has gone a long way toward turning me off completely. right now i'd rather spend my money on literally any other game that doesn't bombard me with new crap every single month. that doesn't exploit fomo. that doesn't push new cards and force me into them to stay relevant.
this kind of pace and pigheadedness will be the thing that destroys magic on a long enough timeline. i'm not a sky is falling type person, haven't been in 27 years of playing... but thats how i feel after this past year and seeing what the next one will be like.
rather than pissing and moaning about the Pioneer decklists, why not follow the link instead of making ignorant guesses?
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“It's as if WOTC is so incompetent at making $15 60-card base rules precons that they gave up.”
The answer is simple: because Wizards understands that the secondary market exists and no product can be competitive at the $15 price tag. $30-$40 precon decks seem to be the sweet spot. They can put in ~$50-$60 worth of value, include 1-of’s, maybe 2-of’s of the pricey cards, and while you may not have a tournament winner, at least you won’t die on turn 3 while having a miserable experience. A $15 deck would need so many upgrades there wouldn’t be anything left of the $15 deck by the time you shuffle up, therefore there is no market for such a product.
Wizards isn’t incompetent for not making $15 decks, but you likely are for thinking they can and should.
rather than pissing and moaning about the Pioneer decklists, why not follow the link instead of making ignorant guesses?