P.S: D&D is going to be a super popular set because of its tie in with D&D and that player base. It will probably be one of the best selling sets of all time. Watch.
That was never up for debate considering how much TWD made. When it comes to the D&D set I am more okay with it than TWD and Stranger Things, but I still don't like that the D&D set is happening at all. It isn't needed when they've been slipping in random reference cards for some time, like Bag of Holding, and when it comes to reprinting these cards it's far less likely to happen considering how specific a lot of these monsters/characters/worlds/stories are to D&D rather than fantasy as a whole.
Even at the best of times this UB stuff has glaring issues, unfortunately none of them will be the money they will bring in.
I'm really glad that someone brought up the fact that P3k and Arabian Nights are sets that ALSO fit this break of UB. I'm a fierce advocate of Rule 0 and while I can kinda see someone getting upset about silver-bordered cards at the table, it irks me that people will actively bar people from using these cards. Yeah, I don't give a flip about your semantics of "I'm not saying that they can't play with them I'm just saying that I'm not going to play with someone that plays them." It's still gatekeeping.
But gatekeeping discussion aside, for those naysayers that say that "noone plays cards from Arabian Nights or P3k" I have for you the following list:
Loyal Retainers
This is an interesting argument, if we go by the "near 30 years ago they did this a couple of times" you could use that same argument for giving blueburnagain, land destruction or damage prevention.
The game vastly changed since then and those characters and stories are far more linked to mythology than say a particular story and the fact that they gave up on it in lieu of doing their own stories, lore, and mythology along with not trying it for another 20+ years sort of lends some credence in the "this doesn't work" camp.
Of course nowadays crossovers are all the rage and with that especially WotC is definitely introducing some AAA video game industry stuff into the game the past couple of years, and part of that is crossovers among with many other aspects. Some are getting tired of this, just like with superhero movies, zombie iconography, and others that have plagued media for the last decade. Others of course have seen Magic stay more or less pure for two decades now and this does feel like it's cheapening the brand considerably.
Honestly, all of this is eye rolling. Not even a year into UB and we'll have 2 SLs and a core set removed (yay no reprints!) and we still have a full set and commander deck series changed coming up. What became "we might do it again" is now "get used to it f***os, we're making money and we'll kick this dead horse until you can see the Nike symbol on it. Now let's talk about the Mountain Dew Black Lotus." About five years ago this was "nah, we're not gonna do crossovers, it might cheapen Magic" to "you can fight space gods with squirrels, so this makes perfect sense now buy some Spongebob PWs for your Legacy Deck to have a chance at being a pro!"
Between this and the absolute tsunami of product Magic has pumped out the last two years this looks far more like a gacha game lately than the longest running card game in the world. This week is TWD banner, next week is Stranger Things banner, and stay tuned for the eventual power creep we'll shove in with these units/cards that you'll just have to get to stay competitive.
I'll say this, it's stupid to say you wouldn't play with someone with those cards, just like it's stupid to say you don't like people that don't like UB. It's no different than saying "I won't play against turn 1 infinite combo" or a specific format and you wouldn't judge them for not playing a format, would you?
In the end as the crossovers become money makers it is far more likely that Magic will be an IP licensing vehicle more so than it's own thing. Companies don't stop when they make money and Hasbro/WotC see just how much they can make by pushing this out. They'll push it until something makes them stop either no more money coming in or, much like with loot boxes, regulations get thrown in and I don't see either happening any time soon with this.
Before the whole "that's just doom and gloom, don't worry" argument I'll point to the video game industry for just how bad it got and how bad it still is as my example.
Never watched Stranger Things, don't intend to any time soon, so I couldn't care about this outside of the eye rolling nature of UB, Secret Lairs, and both put together. I will say this, that art of that boy/girl/thing looks like it should be on a Goosebumps cover and not on a Magic card.
Her name is Eleven, she's played by Millie Bobbie Brown, the art is ripped straight from the show, and I'm fairly confident she prefers traditionally female pronouns (she/her).
The "boy/girl/thing" is not knowing the character nor the actor that plays them, which should have been clear when I said I have never watched it. Pulled from the show or not that art looks low quality. TWD art wasn't all that great either.
Never watched Stranger Things, don't intend to any time soon, so I couldn't care about this outside of the eye rolling nature of UB, Secret Lairs, and both put together. I will say this, that art of that boy/girl/thing looks like it should be on a Goosebumps cover and not on a Magic card.
These cards will be part of future The list sets as well so you can get them from set packs, why would you buy the secret lair then? Also they said that they're directly for commander only.
We'll see how "commander only" they'll be as time goes on. Eventually they'll screw up and put a Vintage/Legacy card that will break things.
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That was never up for debate considering how much TWD made. When it comes to the D&D set I am more okay with it than TWD and Stranger Things, but I still don't like that the D&D set is happening at all. It isn't needed when they've been slipping in random reference cards for some time, like Bag of Holding, and when it comes to reprinting these cards it's far less likely to happen considering how specific a lot of these monsters/characters/worlds/stories are to D&D rather than fantasy as a whole.
Even at the best of times this UB stuff has glaring issues, unfortunately none of them will be the money they will bring in.
This is an interesting argument, if we go by the "near 30 years ago they did this a couple of times" you could use that same argument for giving blue burn again, land destruction or damage prevention.
The game vastly changed since then and those characters and stories are far more linked to mythology than say a particular story and the fact that they gave up on it in lieu of doing their own stories, lore, and mythology along with not trying it for another 20+ years sort of lends some credence in the "this doesn't work" camp.
Of course nowadays crossovers are all the rage and with that especially WotC is definitely introducing some AAA video game industry stuff into the game the past couple of years, and part of that is crossovers among with many other aspects. Some are getting tired of this, just like with superhero movies, zombie iconography, and others that have plagued media for the last decade. Others of course have seen Magic stay more or less pure for two decades now and this does feel like it's cheapening the brand considerably.
Honestly, all of this is eye rolling. Not even a year into UB and we'll have 2 SLs and a core set removed (yay no reprints!) and we still have a full set and commander deck series changed coming up. What became "we might do it again" is now "get used to it f***os, we're making money and we'll kick this dead horse until you can see the Nike symbol on it. Now let's talk about the Mountain Dew Black Lotus." About five years ago this was "nah, we're not gonna do crossovers, it might cheapen Magic" to "you can fight space gods with squirrels, so this makes perfect sense now buy some Spongebob PWs for your Legacy Deck to have a chance at being a pro!"
Between this and the absolute tsunami of product Magic has pumped out the last two years this looks far more like a gacha game lately than the longest running card game in the world. This week is TWD banner, next week is Stranger Things banner, and stay tuned for the eventual power creep we'll shove in with these units/cards that you'll just have to get to stay competitive.
I'll say this, it's stupid to say you wouldn't play with someone with those cards, just like it's stupid to say you don't like people that don't like UB. It's no different than saying "I won't play against turn 1 infinite combo" or a specific format and you wouldn't judge them for not playing a format, would you?
In the end as the crossovers become money makers it is far more likely that Magic will be an IP licensing vehicle more so than it's own thing. Companies don't stop when they make money and Hasbro/WotC see just how much they can make by pushing this out. They'll push it until something makes them stop either no more money coming in or, much like with loot boxes, regulations get thrown in and I don't see either happening any time soon with this.
Before the whole "that's just doom and gloom, don't worry" argument I'll point to the video game industry for just how bad it got and how bad it still is as my example.
Folks doing what they wish in their own free time is definitely not the same as this.
The "boy/girl/thing" is not knowing the character nor the actor that plays them, which should have been clear when I said I have never watched it. Pulled from the show or not that art looks low quality. TWD art wasn't all that great either.
We'll see how "commander only" they'll be as time goes on. Eventually they'll screw up and put a Vintage/Legacy card that will break things.