I'm not advocating for a mass claim today. That said I am going to claim before the end of the day. You can agree or disagree with my reasons when I do it. Before that, I will finish looking at the ZDS Wagon, and then I'll be done.
Will this info affect the lynch today? Your claim will be a bit more telling than you think (due to my role), so if you are bent on claiming today that's your call, but there might be a bit more discussion based on it depending on your claim.
I'm really very uninterested in dragging this day out. If anyone has objections to condemning CC now is the time to make them because if not we should move forward to avoid dragging this out and demotivating people.
Okay wait, new theory: The mafia have a redirector(I mean it's pretty much confirmed by the rules that there is a redirector in the game).
Humor me for a second.
We're currently 7-3. Silver lies about not getting my message so I get bopped and we're 6-3. Silver's hope here is too draw a vig kill at night which will get redirected to a townie and give the mafia an extra kill and we're 4-3 starting Day 3. Silver gets bopped, there's another night kill and it's 3-2.
One for one is bad for scum. One for two is better and forces us into lyol.
I don't have any idea how likely a vig is in this game or if the mafia would expect there to be one. Also I have no idea how likely Silver is to pull a gambit like this. So it's a stretch, but I'm just trying to make some kind of sense of this. It's just so obviously a trap and we're about to walk right into it. Someone make this make sense for me.
So where did your Townfirm go if it was redirected?
3)"Instead of saying "this is why I think Silver's post was forced, here are my reasons" he says "this could be interpreted as forcing". This tells me that he doesn't actually believe that Silver's push was forced - he's trying to convince himself that it is."
-Ok, so it looks like your main issue is the word "interpreted" and you said I sounded like I was "trying to convince himself that it is". I wasn't trying to convince myself, I just was talking it out and seeing if it makes sense. It was very early in the game.
"tldr - I think that town Terry would play this game with more nuance and be a bit more interrogative. In this game he just joined the large CropCircles bandwagon and had pressure on Vaimes that sort of went nowhere."
-See 1) regarding my meta. I did a bit more than join the bandwagon on CC, so I think that's a misuse of terms. You also seem to forget that I was pretty vocal about ZDS not being scum (despite having to vote him at the end of the day to save myself (#1 Town, 100%)). So... I felt that my involvement in everything throughout Day 1 was more than most, so why are you signaling me out for "cruising" as you imply? I'd find it hard for anyone to read my ISO and come up with that conclusion.