Commander is aimed at the majority of players that don't engage with LGSs or organized play. That's who the banlist is set up for.
We are misaligned on what target audience means here. Yes the RC has a strong focus on kitchen-table style games, but they know those people can regulate themselves if there is an issue. The ban list is the best starting point for those groups, and the best place for people who don't belong to such a group to focus on.
People playing at a shop or GP with random folks have a place to build from. Of course a rule 0 discussion could be had, but the ban list preempts that unless purposely engaged. I meant 'target audience' as those who get the most from it. You mean who the RC builds rules for.
So what would change in the ban list, for your ideal state, if the target audience was LGS players?
If people are sick of reading about stuff just stop taking part. You have 100% control over what you read. Simic Ascendancy isn't going to get banned just because you didn't tell someone to shut up on the internet.
So the intended audience has the banlist suited for them, but they're the ones who need it least. Whereas LGS players are not the target audience of the banlist, but they're the ones that have to play with it whether they want it or not.
I actually believe LGS and GP people are the 'target audience' for the ban list. If you look at the rest of what you said, it seems to slide right into place.
If people are sick of reading about stuff just stop taking part. You have 100% control over what you read. Simic Ascendancy isn't going to get banned just because you didn't tell someone to shut up on the internet.
Really I'm going to just assume that sheldon was recently destroyed by some engine deck, got hosed by iona, and was trapped in a conversation by someone that wanted him to unban painter and he was too beta to do anything otherwise. That or he stockpiled painters and is using his role to get some cash.
These sorts of comments are exactly why the RC should never listen to people on the internet.
People love EDH while virtually spitting in the face of the people who brought it to us. It's sad, and predictable
If people are sick of reading about stuff just stop taking part. You have 100% control over what you read. Simic Ascendancy isn't going to get banned just because you didn't tell someone to shut up on the internet.
Iona, on the other hand, is very up front about what she does. Even the Timmiest Timmy runs her to kick the mono colored decks in the groin. It's also not like Armageddon; land destruction is often followed by "now what?" Iona's "now what?" is beats.
Of course there's a lot of people who justifiably don't want to worry about Iona showing up at the table. I don't blame them. But it's not a trap, it's not an accident, and treating it as such masks what it does. It's a hard control option on a stick, not a mythical Timmy-tricking boogeyman.
I dont think this is true. Many people play multicolors, and big costly angels seem cool and fun. Maybe after it ruins a few games people come around, but I can see for sure why new folks think it looks cool.
If people are sick of reading about stuff just stop taking part. You have 100% control over what you read. Simic Ascendancy isn't going to get banned just because you didn't tell someone to shut up on the internet.
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We are misaligned on what target audience means here. Yes the RC has a strong focus on kitchen-table style games, but they know those people can regulate themselves if there is an issue. The ban list is the best starting point for those groups, and the best place for people who don't belong to such a group to focus on.
People playing at a shop or GP with random folks have a place to build from. Of course a rule 0 discussion could be had, but the ban list preempts that unless purposely engaged. I meant 'target audience' as those who get the most from it. You mean who the RC builds rules for.
So what would change in the ban list, for your ideal state, if the target audience was LGS players?
People love EDH while virtually spitting in the face of the people who brought it to us. It's sad, and predictable
I dont think this is true. Many people play multicolors, and big costly angels seem cool and fun. Maybe after it ruins a few games people come around, but I can see for sure why new folks think it looks cool.