The passive effects weren't horribly oppressive and you had good incentive to actually risk casting these cards to the field.
And that's just like your opinion. Many find Edgar Markov and Inalla oppressive. To me Inalla is the worst offender, going either from turn 2 combo win without never ever casting the general to slow garbage deck with no middle ground.
you really can't compare giant growthing a cat each combat step to draining everyone with Tendrils of Agony in a number of turns that one could count with one hand.
You can't really compare giant growing a cat each turn to giving a creature +1/+2 then.
The comparison is valid only when you compare the worst eminence card with the best storm card, but not when you do it with the worst storm card?
Your hypotethical haste card is broken, but not because of haste, because of the broken tap ability.
And Tendrils of agony is also a really tame effect. Draining 2 for 4 is kinda weak. Except when you add storm, then you broke it.
That's how you measure a failed mechanic. They are either too strong or absolute garbage with almost no middle ground.
Same for eminence.
No please we got so many pentacolor legends this year...
I hope populate will be bant or naya. Ooooh, print a legendary godsire please!
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How i feel about competitive players and casual players in EDH: The competitive are german tourists, the casual are italian tourists, both in a italian beach. The italians asking themselves "why are the germans here?" make a legitimate question, the answer is because the beach is beautiful, no matter the country you came from. The italians wanting to ban the germans are dumb, because if the germans pay for their stay and follow the rules like everyone else, they have the right to be in the beach. Hovewer, if the germans started to ask themselves "why are the italians here?"... they would be dumb as hell.
The eminence abilities we have now are nothing to really complain about and kinda surprised to see them get so much hate now. I mean, I get it feels psychologically annoying that an opponent has an advantage that you can only remove by taking control of it from the battlefield or bouncing it (Or resorting to Mind-slaving and exiling their commander) but like, it's for the most narrow and casual of things.
Ur-Dragon and Arahbo are for meme tribes that will never, ever be taken seriously. (Cries into my Ur-Dragon playmat)
Inalla and Edgar are the most pushed but still far from the most annoying thing even in casual.
M'Odo doesn't count he's your typical stupid fan designed card that one person actually happens to physically own.
Honestly though I'd rather see something new rather than Eminence, but I don't hate it or outright consider it a blight to the format. We've seen how pushed something made for commander can be and none of the current eminence bearers are close to it.
greater mossdog is a crappy card, so dredge is a totally fair ability astral steel is a crappy card, so storm is a totally fair ability
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How i feel about competitive players and casual players in EDH: The competitive are german tourists, the casual are italian tourists, both in a italian beach. The italians asking themselves "why are the germans here?" make a legitimate question, the answer is because the beach is beautiful, no matter the country you came from. The italians wanting to ban the germans are dumb, because if the germans pay for their stay and follow the rules like everyone else, they have the right to be in the beach. Hovewer, if the germans started to ask themselves "why are the italians here?"... they would be dumb as hell.
Maybe they could print eminence and eminence hate. Something like Torpor Orb but it shuts down eminence abilities.
Please wizard do it as an emblem or eminence ability
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How i feel about competitive players and casual players in EDH: The competitive are german tourists, the casual are italian tourists, both in a italian beach. The italians asking themselves "why are the germans here?" make a legitimate question, the answer is because the beach is beautiful, no matter the country you came from. The italians wanting to ban the germans are dumb, because if the germans pay for their stay and follow the rules like everyone else, they have the right to be in the beach. Hovewer, if the germans started to ask themselves "why are the italians here?"... they would be dumb as hell.
I really don't get how people can like eminence. Don't you want to, you know, actually play the game? Cast the cards? Use them? How can you be happy with a card that does everything just by being there?
If there was a general with "eminence: when you are tired of the game and want to win, you win the game" would you play it?
Thank god m20 gave us some interesting legends...
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How i feel about competitive players and casual players in EDH: The competitive are german tourists, the casual are italian tourists, both in a italian beach. The italians asking themselves "why are the germans here?" make a legitimate question, the answer is because the beach is beautiful, no matter the country you came from. The italians wanting to ban the germans are dumb, because if the germans pay for their stay and follow the rules like everyone else, they have the right to be in the beach. Hovewer, if the germans started to ask themselves "why are the italians here?"... they would be dumb as hell.
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And that's just like your opinion. Many find Edgar Markov and Inalla oppressive. To me Inalla is the worst offender, going either from turn 2 combo win without never ever casting the general to slow garbage deck with no middle ground.
You can't really compare giant growing a cat each turn to giving a creature +1/+2 then.
The comparison is valid only when you compare the worst eminence card with the best storm card, but not when you do it with the worst storm card?
Your hypotethical haste card is broken, but not because of haste, because of the broken tap ability.
And Tendrils of agony is also a really tame effect. Draining 2 for 4 is kinda weak. Except when you add storm, then you broke it.
That's how you measure a failed mechanic. They are either too strong or absolute garbage with almost no middle ground.
Same for eminence.
No please we got so many pentacolor legends this year...
I hope populate will be bant or naya. Ooooh, print a legendary godsire please!
greater mossdog is a crappy card, so dredge is a totally fair ability
astral steel is a crappy card, so storm is a totally fair ability
Please wizard do it as an emblem or eminence ability
If there was a general with "eminence: when you are tired of the game and want to win, you win the game" would you play it?
Thank god m20 gave us some interesting legends...