This card is obviously strong, but Urza isn't locking anyone out or being annoying (i.e. Erayo, Leovold). Urza just means your artifact deck is strong, kinda like how Rofellos means your forest deck is strong.
You are aware Rofellos is banned? I don't think they really do the same thing, but thats a bad analogy if you mean Urza should not be banned.
Yes, I am aware of Rofellos. I just want to say that unless it locks players out, no commander should be banned. Rofellos still being banned is kinda weird.
Urza is just strong. But any stronger than Thrasios? Thrasios does the same thing but is 4 colors and 2cmc.
The issue then becomes what does a "fair" Urza deck look like. It's obviously an artifact-centric deck, probably with cards that produce artifact tokens like Sai, Master Thopterist, Efficient Construction, Thopter Spy Network, Tezzeret, Artifice Master, Genesis Chamber (extra saucy because you can tap it for mana to turn it off on other player's turns), Thopter Assembly), etc. I think that even this kind of deck has the potential for some really strong shenanigans without being annoying.
I don't know what "fair" means, but you can definitely play without being able to make infinite mana or do infinite loops.
I just realised as well, effects like null rod doesn't affect urza - it's him who makes the mana, not the artifact itself.
There are a few things about urza that makes him really good. i think his etb effect pushes him somewhat even further than before (it immediately gives you U to 'go off').
I think the thing that's limiting is that he's mono blue. In other words, as a general, you won't be able to thopter foundry/sword of the meek combo. I'm sure there are other combos that are playable in mono blue though.
I guess in a month or so, we'll figure out if urza is bannable - someone will inevitably figure out how to break him, but i doubt it'll come down to it.
At this point, one card doesn't receive a ban just because it's good or breakable. Too many cards fit that criteria.
This card is obviously strong, but Urza isn't locking anyone out or being annoying (i.e. Erayo, Leovold). Urza just means your artifact deck is strong, kinda like how Rofellos means your forest deck is strong.
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Yes, I am aware of Rofellos. I just want to say that unless it locks players out, no commander should be banned. Rofellos still being banned is kinda weird.
Urza is just strong. But any stronger than Thrasios? Thrasios does the same thing but is 4 colors and 2cmc.
I don't know what "fair" means, but you can definitely play without being able to make infinite mana or do infinite loops.
This card is obviously strong, but Urza isn't locking anyone out or being annoying (i.e. Erayo, Leovold). Urza just means your artifact deck is strong, kinda like how Rofellos means your forest deck is strong.