I argue that your posting was game throwing more than the policy lynch would ever be.
You can argue all you want, but at the end of the day more people agreed that your posting was insuferrable and that you deserves to be lynched for it.
You also can't ban policy lynches. It's a concept with undefined borders. Couple that with the fact that my vote started as a policy vote yet I also started to scum read you for your dumb posting.
I've also seen this argument time and time again from people who got policy lynched. Change your behaviour instead of trying to change others.
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Policy lynching require half the players to agree that the game would be better without the lynchee. It stops being the voters fault and becomes the fault of the one getting voted. We also told you to stop. I also don't like policy lynching, but when that's the only option, you use it.
I also don't agree with the mod intervening. You didn't break any mafia rule. It was just that you were so annoying that I'd rather waste a lynch so I know you stop posting than actually keep seeing your posts.
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Damn. Good job shadow. I really don't know how to play these situatioms and I just tried to help.you as much as I could. I'm proud that I managed to change your mind.
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From my point of view DV's hammer was either accidental or intentionally seeming accidental. Both of those don't require communication and produce the same effect. Pre-game chat is a must regardless of the king mechanic so I'd imagine they had at least a message.
Even so it's also possible that osie simply thought that it's cool to troll and dv went along with it.
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While I have you, if you were osie’s Buddy, how would you have responded to his gimmick differently than how you did in your first post?
Probably not as hard as I started. I'm not really in the business of policy lynching my buddy especially when I'll get nearly no cred for it. You modded prison block mafia. You should know how I bus my buddies given than my bus kept terry alive till LyLo.
Also the recently ended secret agent where I bussed GJ just for form.
I mean, I'd care a lot less about how annoying something is if it's done by my buddy. That's also why I thought hr was scum.
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Also I can't call out a scummiest post. All my posts are scummy usually regardless of alignment. I make scummy posts as town cause I don't really put a filter on my thoughts.
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Osie is osie and I'm not sure what to make of the gimmick. It's just a bit +scum as I feel osie isn't confident with his scum ability and trying to make it harder for the town to read him.
Vez, talk to me about this, why do you think Osie isn’t confident with his scum ability?
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Shadow would you classify your scum as exact or more in the moment?
DV, what were you hoping to get/did you get out of this question?
I was in the team with osie during team mafia where he was scum. I'm not sure if he said he liked town more than scum in the private thread explicitly, but he certainly implied that. It's also not enough for a serious read on osie as he can play both well, but it's just another reason.
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That being said if you ******* hammer me I'm going to lord this loss over you and how you could have won this for us, because I've played incredibly townie this game.
Quality content right here.
Your whole plan was WIFOM and its working.
I hate you right now.
It's not my plan, it's yours and it's not working.
It's a game where both me and you have perfect information. Shadow knows this. Saying scum's plan was WIFOM is something almost universally true, but in this situation it's the only reason why scun would kill Bur instead of shadow.
It's also appeal to emotion in a game where you should be pretty distant from the thread, because you already know everything and the decision is not under your control.
Hate is also much too strong a word to use in this context. I haven't done anything immoral that could warrant hate even if I was scum.
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That being said if you ******* hammer me I'm going to lord this loss over you and how you could have won this for us, because I've played incredibly townie this game.
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@Vez: after you voted Osie you said you didn’t plan to keep your vote parked their, but he got hammered, and your vote never moved. If you had moved it, what would you have done at the time?
@DV:Osie had you as town for “reads”, what are your thoughts on that?
Not sure. I was still waiting for hr to post more and my grapefruit scum read was increasing, but I hated osie's starting gimmick that I didn't feel the need to move my vote.
I will also point to every town thing I'm doing like answering the questions first before seeing DV's answers.
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Also I already said what I would've done last night. Shoot you and try to convince Bur to lynch dv. I'm much more confident that I can fool Bur than you.
I also thought shooting Bur is -EV as scum and didn't expect this.
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I haven’t pushed you, only threatened to lynch you to get you to do things, different.
Your inability to see that, and calling me scum for it is making me more likely to push you though.
Sincerely Shadow.Vez, that’s a pretty weak sauce response to pressure. What do you think of the people who think you’re scum?
DV is just climbing the town ladder even though he is attacking me. Osie is osie and I'm not sure what to make of the gimmick. It's just a bit +scum as I feel osie isn't confident with his scum ability and trying to make it harder for the town to read him.
Grape is gut scum, but I'm waiting for more.
You (shadow) are still pretty much null cause you're shadow and HR is MIA.
This is the only post I could find that I probably wouldn't have made as mafia just cause I only have dv as a townread. I usually try to fake at least two town reads as scum for wifom, but with how the game was going it's not impossible to come from scum me.
Also putting you to null after calling you slight scum is not really my scum MO. I just try to escalate my early reads instead of changing them at a whim.
Even so I wouldn't even townfirm myself if I was reading this game without knowing my alignment.
Also I'm the king vulture or eagle. Forgot exactly what.
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Shadow I hope you realise I'm not masochistic and I would've shot you with no regrets and let Bur figure us out. Shooting Bur is the worst way I could go about it.
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So shadow, how do you think we should do this? I'll try to reread DV to see if I can find anything that might make it obvious he is scum, but I doubt that I will find anything so clear cut. DV played well all game. It's just that the accidental hammer was probably not accidental.
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You can argue all you want, but at the end of the day more people agreed that your posting was insuferrable and that you deserves to be lynched for it.
You also can't ban policy lynches. It's a concept with undefined borders. Couple that with the fact that my vote started as a policy vote yet I also started to scum read you for your dumb posting.
I've also seen this argument time and time again from people who got policy lynched. Change your behaviour instead of trying to change others.
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I also don't agree with the mod intervening. You didn't break any mafia rule. It was just that you were so annoying that I'd rather waste a lynch so I know you stop posting than actually keep seeing your posts.
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Is it really relevant?
From my point of view DV's hammer was either accidental or intentionally seeming accidental. Both of those don't require communication and produce the same effect. Pre-game chat is a must regardless of the king mechanic so I'd imagine they had at least a message.
Even so it's also possible that osie simply thought that it's cool to troll and dv went along with it.
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Probably not as hard as I started. I'm not really in the business of policy lynching my buddy especially when I'll get nearly no cred for it. You modded prison block mafia. You should know how I bus my buddies given than my bus kept terry alive till LyLo.
Also the recently ended secret agent where I bussed GJ just for form.
I mean, I'd care a lot less about how annoying something is if it's done by my buddy. That's also why I thought hr was scum.
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I was in the team with osie during team mafia where he was scum. I'm not sure if he said he liked town more than scum in the private thread explicitly, but he certainly implied that. It's also not enough for a serious read on osie as he can play both well, but it's just another reason.
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It's not my plan, it's yours and it's not working.
It's a game where both me and you have perfect information. Shadow knows this. Saying scum's plan was WIFOM is something almost universally true, but in this situation it's the only reason why scun would kill Bur instead of shadow.
It's also appeal to emotion in a game where you should be pretty distant from the thread, because you already know everything and the decision is not under your control.
Hate is also much too strong a word to use in this context. I haven't done anything immoral that could warrant hate even if I was scum.
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Not sure. I was still waiting for hr to post more and my grapefruit scum read was increasing, but I hated osie's starting gimmick that I didn't feel the need to move my vote.
I will also point to every town thing I'm doing like answering the questions first before seeing DV's answers.
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I also thought shooting Bur is -EV as scum and didn't expect this.
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This is the only post I could find that I probably wouldn't have made as mafia just cause I only have dv as a townread. I usually try to fake at least two town reads as scum for wifom, but with how the game was going it's not impossible to come from scum me.
Also putting you to null after calling you slight scum is not really my scum MO. I just try to escalate my early reads instead of changing them at a whim.
Even so I wouldn't even townfirm myself if I was reading this game without knowing my alignment.
Also I'm the king vulture or eagle. Forgot exactly what.
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Shadow I hope you realise I'm not masochistic and I would've shot you with no regrets and let Bur figure us out. Shooting Bur is the worst way I could go about it.
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So shadow, how do you think we should do this? I'll try to reread DV to see if I can find anything that might make it obvious he is scum, but I doubt that I will find anything so clear cut. DV played well all game. It's just that the accidental hammer was probably not accidental.
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