Since you count cantrips as a quarter of a mana source, I suppose you are referring to the recent article of Frank Karsten. I see that point, alongside with the issue of Dredge and Phoenix I think it is a wise decision to choose Terminus as the primary sweeper in the list, hence I went up a Jace and down a Teferi. Similarly I adjusted the mana base a little bit, accommodating more G sources for T2 Growth Spiral and consequently going down a couple of basics, the 3 Islands and 2 Plains were a relic from when I attempted to run Cryptics and the sorcery speed wrath package.
I thought about Radical Idea but simply forgot, hence I included it in the recent list as a 1-of. As far as EE is concerned, I am not sure if it is material for the main if there is no way of finding it via Gifts due to the Lack of the Loam/Ruins engine. It is a little durdly for sure, but does its job in grindy matchups. In this particular list however, it just is a 1-of with no chance of recurring contrary to the spot removal spells and Snapcaster Mage.
The list from the above post has been updated accordingly, so you might want to have a look again.
I am not quite sure where this belongs to, so I'll just try posting the list here. It is not entirely Bant but UGWb and not entirely Draw-Go as a strategy, but the overlap between card choices is probably the biggest within this archetype.
I could eventually see cutting the Wrath effects, going up to 3 JtMS and running Terminus as the main sweeper in this build, however with Growth Spiral I do feel that we should be fast enough, neglecting recurring threats like Phoenix for which Terminus is the best answer still. Another flex slot is probably Lingering Souls, it is a canonical inclusion with Gifts Ungiven but it might be better to run more counters and/or spot removal in this list, discard is out of reach regarding the mana. As always, feel free to comment.
Edit: Slightly adjusted the deck list, see comments in the posts below.
I also posted about growth spiral in the 4c gifts thread. But people in that thread are stuck on trying to play lilianas. Trying to craft a more instant speed version, didn't really impress me just by looking at the list, as I think the mana is slightly too bad. And I also got a recent reminder why deathrite is still banned.
Indeed, but this is because I feel that LotV is one of the major components of the deck, doing multiple things 4C Gifts needs at the same time. Maybe if one drops the heavy requirement on B and skips on the turn 1 discard one could make Growth Spiral kinda work. Instead I would lean towards more counter magic (that is, counter magic at all) in Logic Knot and possibly Negate/Mana Leak. Together with Gifts and the package one would however need another discard outlet, such as Radical Idea which makes a decent impression in a Gifts Pile as well. But all that strictly belongs to another thread...
The last list that was posted here kinda drew my attention, Thopter/Sword together with Glittering Wish, Gifts Ungiven and most of the UW package indeed looks pretty nice on paper, definitely something I will try in the future. A Wish toolbox for Wargate into another toolbox however is something I do not quite see working in a broad field. Unfortunately, Wheel of Sun and Moon as a wish target also does not make the cut when it comes to GY hate, I tried running it in some matches with Gifts decks and it keeps being too slow, not exiling what's already in the GY really is an issue generally.
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I thought about Radical Idea but simply forgot, hence I included it in the recent list as a 1-of. As far as EE is concerned, I am not sure if it is material for the main if there is no way of finding it via Gifts due to the Lack of the Loam/Ruins engine. It is a little durdly for sure, but does its job in grindy matchups. In this particular list however, it just is a 1-of with no chance of recurring contrary to the spot removal spells and Snapcaster Mage.
The list from the above post has been updated accordingly, so you might want to have a look again.
2 Snapcaster Mage
1 Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite
1 Thragtusk
1 Iona, Shield of Emeria
Land
1 Overgrown Tomb
1 Watery Grave
2 Breeding Pool
1 Swamp
2 Hallowed Fountain
1 Forest
2 Marsh Flats
2 Misty Rainforest
1 Plains
1 Godless Shrine
1 Celestial Colonnade
4 Flooded Strand
2 Polluted Delta
2 Island
3 Gifts Ungiven
2 Spell Snare
2 Logic Knot
3 Path to Exile
1 Spell Pierce
1 Abrupt Decay
1 Pulse of Murasa
3 Opt
1 Assassin's Trophy
4 Growth Spiral
1 Radical Idea
Sorcery
1 Unburial Rites
2 Lingering Souls
4 Terminus
Planeswalker
3 Jace, the Mind Sculptor
1 Teferi, Hero of Dominaria
1 Faerie Macabre
3 Wheel of Sun and Moon
2 Stony Silence
1 Engineered Explosives
2 Damping Sphere
2 Celestial Purge
1 Pulse of Murasa
1 Wrath of God
2 Timely Reinforcements
I could eventually see cutting the Wrath effects, going up to 3 JtMS and running Terminus as the main sweeper in this build, however with Growth Spiral I do feel that we should be fast enough, neglecting recurring threats like Phoenix for which Terminus is the best answer still. Another flex slot is probably Lingering Souls, it is a canonical inclusion with Gifts Ungiven but it might be better to run more counters and/or spot removal in this list, discard is out of reach regarding the mana. As always, feel free to comment.
Edit: Slightly adjusted the deck list, see comments in the posts below.
Indeed, but this is because I feel that LotV is one of the major components of the deck, doing multiple things 4C Gifts needs at the same time. Maybe if one drops the heavy requirement on B and skips on the turn 1 discard one could make Growth Spiral kinda work. Instead I would lean towards more counter magic (that is, counter magic at all) in Logic Knot and possibly Negate/Mana Leak. Together with Gifts and the package one would however need another discard outlet, such as Radical Idea which makes a decent impression in a Gifts Pile as well. But all that strictly belongs to another thread...
The last list that was posted here kinda drew my attention, Thopter/Sword together with Glittering Wish, Gifts Ungiven and most of the UW package indeed looks pretty nice on paper, definitely something I will try in the future. A Wish toolbox for Wargate into another toolbox however is something I do not quite see working in a broad field. Unfortunately, Wheel of Sun and Moon as a wish target also does not make the cut when it comes to GY hate, I tried running it in some matches with Gifts decks and it keeps being too slow, not exiling what's already in the GY really is an issue generally.