If you have no creatures in the yard though, it's absolutely worthless. Its +2 ability basically does nothing at all, and its static ability isn't always relevant either. Lifelink is cute but it doesn't improve the bad matchups at all.
I mean I suppose, but by that logic TiTi, deaths shadow, and gurmag angler are cards that don’t impact the game state and are therefore bad in modern which seems to be clearly not the case. I think playing a creature that swings combat math in your favor counts for something, it just depends on how much mana you have to spend to do so.
I don't think that's a fair comparison. Depending on when it comes down, Thing can be triggered right away and basically end the game on the spot against any creature-based deck. Shadow and Angler are different cases because of Stub backup, rendering them basically indestructible and ready to put the game away in no time.
We can debate whether UR Phoenix and GDS are 'fair' decks, but they're definitely not as fair as The Rock, Abzan or Jund.
To rephrase my original statement, I don't think you want to be playing too fair in Modern right now.
You’re not wrong, but I feel like almost everything in BG meets the criteria of immediately impacting the game state in a meaningful way, no?
Dark Confidant does nothing the turn it comes down. Goyf does nothing. Tracker does something minorly impactful sometimes. Ooze does something impactful sometimes. Kalitas does something impactful sometimes.
The only permanent in this deck that immediately has an impact on the game state is Liliana, and I think the deck would be absolutely unplayable without her.
Any thoughts on this particular list? Seems like the same player has seen success with a jund variant as well. Spawn of Mayhem is certainly interesting
Should probably be in the Abzan thread as it's an Abzan Traverse deck. Certainly interesting I'll admit, but not worth cutting Kalitas for right now.
Wonderful showing for The Rock in Philly yesterday. I think he would have taken the whole thing down if he had just sacrificed the zombie to Kalitas in game 2 and swung for 7 to put him out of double-bolt range. Your thoughts?
Where can we watch? I don't see it in Google or Twitch search results.
Wonderful showing for The Rock in Philly yesterday. I think he would have taken the whole thing down if he had just sacrificed the zombie to Kalitas in game 2 and swung for 7 to put him out of double-bolt range. Your thoughts?
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Abzan Traverse / Traverse Shadow / UR Kiki
Abzan Traverse / Traverse Shadow / UR Kiki
Abzan Traverse / Traverse Shadow / UR Kiki
Abzan Traverse / Traverse Shadow / UR Kiki
I don't think that's a fair comparison. Depending on when it comes down, Thing can be triggered right away and basically end the game on the spot against any creature-based deck. Shadow and Angler are different cases because of Stub backup, rendering them basically indestructible and ready to put the game away in no time.
We can debate whether UR Phoenix and GDS are 'fair' decks, but they're definitely not as fair as The Rock, Abzan or Jund.
To rephrase my original statement, I don't think you want to be playing too fair in Modern right now.
Abzan Traverse / Traverse Shadow / UR Kiki
Dark Confidant does nothing the turn it comes down. Goyf does nothing. Tracker does something minorly impactful sometimes. Ooze does something impactful sometimes. Kalitas does something impactful sometimes.
The only permanent in this deck that immediately has an impact on the game state is Liliana, and I think the deck would be absolutely unplayable without her.
Abzan Traverse / Traverse Shadow / UR Kiki
Abzan Traverse / Traverse Shadow / UR Kiki
Abzan Traverse / Traverse Shadow / UR Kiki
That just looks so much worse than Grim Flayer.
Abzan Traverse / Traverse Shadow / UR Kiki
Should probably be in the Abzan thread as it's an Abzan Traverse deck. Certainly interesting I'll admit, but not worth cutting Kalitas for right now.
Abzan Traverse / Traverse Shadow / UR Kiki
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Abzan Traverse / Traverse Shadow / UR Kiki
Abzan Traverse / Traverse Shadow / UR Kiki