I'm with RE, their version of events is consistent, believable, and natural, while Rumanshi's is anything but. I don't see any particular need to drag this out, ready to hammer if you guys are good with that
What, no. I am wild no matter what. Consistency does not = Town.
When it comes to claims, consistency is absolutely necessary.
@013livion
Hammer away
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Hmm, I hadn't realized Slave's vote put me at L-1 range.
@Shattiel @Slave
Am I your top suspect right now?
I asked this because unless there was actually intent to hammer me, I didn't want to claim since it would mean I automatically die at night and lose a chance at catching scum or clearing someone.
WINE territory. it's totally likely for all the scenarios ur saying wouldn't be done if u weren't gunsmith would be something to do as u were under suspicion. Everything you did can be from either power role, a vanilla or scum. Justthe reasoning changes.
No, it doesn't. A vanilla wastes a lynch that way. Scum draws unnecessary attention towards themselves.
And if you really suspected me, you would have pushed me for the claim. Otherwise you're admitting you checked me while well aware that the check might have been wasted had I been successful in eating this night kill.
I mean, really, it should be obvious that you are scum in this situation. I claimed first. I claimed the check on the person I said I would check. That person was someone I had been suspecting well before night began. Your claim is convenient for yourself and has nothing to back it up.
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HHinting ggunsmit is hinting vig. It's a matter of protection. I assumed u were hunting gunsmith to take the night shot.
No? I hinted at it because I was put at L-1 like twice. I asked people if I was their top suspect to make sure they would take responsibility for outing me. Ideally I wouldn't have had to hint at it, but it was better than wasting the vig shot when I could have been confirmed easily.
It's not the same, especially since there was some agreement over shooting me at night. I wouldn't have requested to not be shot if I had control over the shot.
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If it's actually going to be a problem, anyone reading your iso knows you don't check me. You defended me at one point. You asked to be checked yourself.
I also heavily hinted at being the gunsmith yesterday. It wasn't ideal, but that's what it came to. And I definitely stated clearly you were my preferred target for the check.
Even if I were scum, my claim means I risked checking someone who wasn't the gunsmith which would instantly frame myself as scum. So.
I lie ***** tonne. Anyone who knows e would know RE is who check. you hinted a power role = Scum is a power role. Dont fall for this guys trap
I didn't just hint power role. I hinted specifically gunsmith. Hence me asking not to be shot. You not realizing this or not caring at the time = you not gunsmith.
No trap. You didn't even have an original scumread yesterday, let alone a scumread on me. I caught you first, and now your only way of escaping a lynch is by counter claiming me.
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If it's actually going to be a problem, anyone reading your iso knows you don't check me. You defended me at one point. You asked to be checked yourself.
I also heavily hinted at being the gunsmith yesterday. It wasn't ideal, but that's what it came to. And I definitely stated clearly you were my preferred target for the check.
Even if I were scum, my claim means I risked checking someone who wasn't the gunsmith which would instantly frame myself as scum. So.
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Since I'm bored, I'm going to explain my thought process this game.
My vote on Iso wasn't purely RVS. His "fellow town" post pinged me, and I may have been a bit reluctant to lose that vote.
Lots of things pinged me, to be fair. Riku's first post, for example. His comment on Iso was purely objective. He was stating something that could have been the case regardless of whether we were playing a game or not. Not to mention, he didn't do anything about his read on Iso. I should also say Riku has a "vast tonal difference" between his scum and town games. Crudely put, he felt submissive in this game, same for Token Mafia. While as town he is indeed "explosive."
While I didn't fully suspect Iso while he was L-1, I definitely needed him to claim. If he was vig, it was almost certain that I'd be shot at night, and it followed I'd need to claim too.
013livion was tough. Like he just oozed towniness. But it was mostly tonal. Then he basically asked me to full claim, which I thought town might not have done, because generally town want to be hush about these things. But I guess scum would have shut up about it and killed me quietly, so most likely a style difference.
And Wisp was tougher. There's a certain tell about him that makes him town - and that's extreme tunneling. I didn't see it here, so I felt hesitant to townread him.
I also lightly suspected Shattiel to be the vig. He was a bit too worried about power roles being outed.
I also expected to die today. Riku saying he should be checked - I thought he may have figured out that I was the gunsmith and put himself in a compromising situation knowing there would be no repercussion to it. I guess not though, maybe he didn't read closely. I do regret not pushing him harder yesterday, or asking Slave to vote him. But here we are.
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I hard claim Gunsmith. I thought that might have been a bit obvious yesterday. I checked Riku. He has one of my guns. As Shattiel was the vig, that means he is scum.
vote: Rumanshi
Also, I learned of this while checking my phone during grocery shopping. I got so excited that I forgot all my groceries in the car and now I have to go back and get them ^^'
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whats there to explain? I just want one of you dead? lol
Well, why? Do you think there's scum between us? If one of us flips town, does that make the other scum automatically? And who do you lean towards?
It bothers me because it doesn't seem like you actually suspect us. Wanting one of us dead doesn't make sense unless you absolutely believe there is scum between us.
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@013livion
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I am waiting, but... Nothing wrong with countering you in the meanwhile.
And if you really suspected me, you would have pushed me for the claim. Otherwise you're admitting you checked me while well aware that the check might have been wasted had I been successful in eating this night kill.
I mean, really, it should be obvious that you are scum in this situation. I claimed first. I claimed the check on the person I said I would check. That person was someone I had been suspecting well before night began. Your claim is convenient for yourself and has nothing to back it up.
It's not the same, especially since there was some agreement over shooting me at night. I wouldn't have requested to not be shot if I had control over the shot.
No trap. You didn't even have an original scumread yesterday, let alone a scumread on me. I caught you first, and now your only way of escaping a lynch is by counter claiming me.
I also heavily hinted at being the gunsmith yesterday. It wasn't ideal, but that's what it came to. And I definitely stated clearly you were my preferred target for the check.
Even if I were scum, my claim means I risked checking someone who wasn't the gunsmith which would instantly frame myself as scum. So.
My vote on Iso wasn't purely RVS. His "fellow town" post pinged me, and I may have been a bit reluctant to lose that vote.
Lots of things pinged me, to be fair. Riku's first post, for example. His comment on Iso was purely objective. He was stating something that could have been the case regardless of whether we were playing a game or not. Not to mention, he didn't do anything about his read on Iso. I should also say Riku has a "vast tonal difference" between his scum and town games. Crudely put, he felt submissive in this game, same for Token Mafia. While as town he is indeed "explosive."
While I didn't fully suspect Iso while he was L-1, I definitely needed him to claim. If he was vig, it was almost certain that I'd be shot at night, and it followed I'd need to claim too.
013livion was tough. Like he just oozed towniness. But it was mostly tonal. Then he basically asked me to full claim, which I thought town might not have done, because generally town want to be hush about these things. But I guess scum would have shut up about it and killed me quietly, so most likely a style difference.
And Wisp was tougher. There's a certain tell about him that makes him town - and that's extreme tunneling. I didn't see it here, so I felt hesitant to townread him.
I also lightly suspected Shattiel to be the vig. He was a bit too worried about power roles being outed.
I also expected to die today. Riku saying he should be checked - I thought he may have figured out that I was the gunsmith and put himself in a compromising situation knowing there would be no repercussion to it. I guess not though, maybe he didn't read closely. I do regret not pushing him harder yesterday, or asking Slave to vote him. But here we are.
vote: Rumanshi
Also, I learned of this while checking my phone during grocery shopping. I got so excited that I forgot all my groceries in the car and now I have to go back and get them ^^'
It bothers me because it doesn't seem like you actually suspect us. Wanting one of us dead doesn't make sense unless you absolutely believe there is scum between us.