Alright. Ive switched the commander out for the commander who can counter stuff with menace. Still really strong but i get less hated for it.
Im still the archenemy if i get a few mana rocks going but i dont feel like such a dick for it
Same! I prefer the newer one and that is one of the reasons. They still recognise me as a huge threat, I've done many comebacks and takeovers with Kozilek and friends.
Is there a reason you haven't included Karn, the Great Creator in your list? It seems extremely good early for cutting out other players Sol Rings, Mana Vaults, Grim Monoliths, etc? You could then include Mycosynth Lattice for multiple win cons. Turn off everyone else's lands with Karn out, wipe everyone else's permanents with Darksteel Forge/Nev's Disk.
I’ve tested Karn 3.0 both using a sideboard to find mycosynth lattice and having the lattic in the 99.
The problem is the deck only runs a handful of creatures he’s very difficult to keep alive.
With the other three walkers I run, I play them, use an ability (which is removal) and can’t then bank on them sticking around. If they live (which is never),great. If the die (they always die), so be it.
For Karn to be of any use he has to be protected. All that happens with the Karn/lattice combo is every player for a full rotation simply attacks Karn to death and the combo is ended. If you can’t tap your llanowar elves for mana what do you do with it? Smash it into Karn.
I’m not saying he’s a bad card and in the right deck it’s a table scoop but to run him I need to add so many more blockers it just becomes about trying to get one fragile combo to take.
I also used to run mycosynth lattice for a while but found it to underperform somewhat so needed up removing it. Without Karn out and only a small number of ways to tutor For Karn, it’ll just be a dead card again
Also it sucks that he goes from being a 4 mana drop to atleast a 10 drop, just because he will never be able to survive. And its like you say, its because we barerly have any blockers. And people know what's coming.
EDIT: Thats also why I don't play the other 4 drop. I have both Ugins and Karn Liberated, they're atleast a one for one. A answer for a problem.
I get what you mean. I just did a 1 for 1 trade there because it was 5 min before the match and I couldn't chose what to remove haha. But yeah, Azor's Gateway really is a hit or miss. I can easily see it removed from the deck, even tho its a nice 2 drop. And I also understand about the money thing haha.
I removed Duplicant for the new Ugin as a test since they fill the same spot.. I still haven't gotten a Blast Zone since there's too much prerelease hype about the card. And I can't spend money however I want atm.
I guess you saw the new update? About wishboard not being a part of the game? I still think new Karn is good enough as he is. He's different than Null Rod since he actually does something! And LOTS OF PEOPLE play artifacts. New karn can also still get back artifacts which have been exiled from our own exile effects like Relic and co. or your opponents exile removal. You can also still play lattice in the deck and it gives more incentive to play old karn as well (which i already do). They still say that its up to the group tho with wishboards.
I've been hammering Kdistortion pretty hard recently in the 99 and manage over the course of 2 rotations to counter off 11 spells that would have cost me the win. He's amazing but I much prefer the burthcer in the command zone.
I've got 14 other decks that I have and work on. This one's pretty much at its peak in terms of cards available and with the limited pool not a lot turns my head with the new releases.
However, the new Ugin, the Ineffable is the whole package.
Makes himself blockers, draws cards, ramps and removes. Definitely going into the deck in place of Azor's gateway for testing... But its a really versatile 6 drop removal spell. If it hangs about after the removal it's just a bonus!
Oh yes! I was about to post here about Ugin but I couldn't at the time.
Check this out tho.
"Blast Zone"
Land
Blast zone enters the battlefield with a charge counter on it.
T: Add <>
XX, T: Put X charge counters on Blast Zone.
3, T, Sacrifice Blast Zone: Destroy all nonland permanents with converted mana cost equal to the number of charge counters on Blast Zone.
fractured powerstone is fine. thought vessel's main use is being a 2 for 1 rock. The hand size ability is just a bonus. tabernacle is amazing. I've tested it out and it's insanely good in this deck because of the low number of creatures. The only reason it's not in the deck is because I don't own one (and probably never will). I've got a pretty convincing proxy but I don't like playing proxies long term. Makes me feel dirty when the rest of the deck is foiled!
Butcher will get removed regularly and doesn't have the inbuilt protection that distortion has but he can draw harder through multiple casts.
Just keep up the tempo until they can't remove him anymore.
List looks good. Are you coming over to the butcher permanently?
I got a pretty good proxy for the Tabernacle and I know i won't ever get it. I get you with the Proxy part, otherwise I only run my Workshop proxy that is quite good quality! Its just the back that gives it away (Its a bit darker).
Yeah, thats also why I didn't really get the Thought Vessel yet, its still really good, atleast for K.Distortion.
Nah, I haven't given up on the Distortion. Last games I've won was because of me getting out distortion haha. Suddenly they couldn't remove him and I could just keep going.And carrying around my Kozilek deck is quite... Its quite expensive atm ^^'... So Im focusing on other decks atm. Lately I've been delving into my odd and greedy Nekusar deck (holla at me if you want to see the list).
Btw I've been trying out the butcher for a while. Often times i just cast him and nothing else. People still has to respond to him and such, but i seldomly get to swing.
This is my list so far. I think i have a bit many lands, but there's been so much artifacthate that i can't really go without it. And i added a Mox Diamond + a Tabernacle ;)For prices sakes haha.
EDIT: (Seems like I've alternated with Fractured Powerstone(I don't have a Thought Vessel !)
I'm not a huge fan of Spawnsire.
If you sideboard a ton of threats and it gets taken out, you then have a sideboard full of useless.
But, on the same note as before at least you haven't just got bombs in your hand that don't pose as sufficient counters for Kozi2.0.
If you're playing a Timmy deck full of Craterhoof Behemoths and the like they might just work but more than likely you're going to be up against synergy builds who's curves are lower to the ground.
It serves you better to be sitting in the 1,2,3 drops to act as counters.
Scavenger Grounds is one I've been considering for a while. I'm thinking of taking out one of the weaker utility lands for it. Maybe Thespian's Stage because I rarely ever use the ability unless I'm copying a Strip Mine of the occasional Eldrazi Temple.
I tested Void Winnower and ran it in the deck for a few months after its release but I found it to just cause the table to have laser focus on my field and it generated far more hate than I was willing to deal with.
The problem with running that many high cost cards in your deck is that what're the chances of an opponent playing a 9 drop for you to pitch it to the Great Distortion? It doesn't pose that double use for you.
Blightsteel is another dude I pulled ages ago. He's a good substitute for Kozi with how oppressive it is and I used to run it with a janky infinite combo with Mirrorworks but I took out the infect monster. I can't remember my reasoning other than maybe taking it out for something more reactive or that offered filtering.
Yeah im just where you are with all of that haha. Been thinking if i should maybe move some big eldrazis to the sideboard and play my foil Spawnsire of Ulamog in their place. So i can play them from the sideboard. Problem is that my kozilek isn't as much of a threat like the Butcher, so i need some firepower. But we'll see.
Against Graveyards there's not much that's really good. I used to play Tormod's Crypt and Relic of progenitus. I have since removed some petcards like a land i really liked, and added a Scavenger Grounds instead. So im not playing Tormod's Crypt atm, which opened up another slot.
Mana Web is a card i should get. The most problem i usually have is against certain blue players. And besides, everybody is only fetching for island x type of duals in their multicoloured decks anyway ^^' . Or they're monoblack etc.
I still haven't gotten too many games in. Last cards i removed was Blightsteel Colossus (i wonder if i should replace this one with one of the other big eldrazis instead. I have a lot of options in the Eldrazi way. ) and Tangle Wire(really miss this card, i think it was a mistake to remove it.
Im also considering Void Winnower again, would be cool to see how it would impact a game today. It would/could shutdown quite a few commanders in our meta atm.
Too bad it does not stop the typical "Mana Flare" enchantments.
So, im branching out to Kruphix, God of Horizons Eldrazi (atleast the big and cool ones) EDH. I think it can be cool. I usually really dislike UG but this feels sort of right.
Same! I prefer the newer one and that is one of the reasons. They still recognise me as a huge threat, I've done many comebacks and takeovers with Kozilek and friends.
Who needs Colours?
My most played EDH deck:
X Kozilek, the Great Distortion
UBR Nekusar, the Mindrazer
And this colourless futuresight:
Who needs Colours?
My most played EDH deck:
X Kozilek, the Great Distortion
UBR Nekusar, the Mindrazer
Who needs Colours?
My most played EDH deck:
X Kozilek, the Great Distortion
UBR Nekusar, the Mindrazer
Also it sucks that he goes from being a 4 mana drop to atleast a 10 drop, just because he will never be able to survive. And its like you say, its because we barerly have any blockers. And people know what's coming.
EDIT: Thats also why I don't play the other 4 drop. I have both Ugins and Karn Liberated, they're atleast a one for one. A answer for a problem.
Who needs Colours?
My most played EDH deck:
X Kozilek, the Great Distortion
UBR Nekusar, the Mindrazer
Who needs Colours?
My most played EDH deck:
X Kozilek, the Great Distortion
UBR Nekusar, the Mindrazer
Who needs Colours?
My most played EDH deck:
X Kozilek, the Great Distortion
UBR Nekusar, the Mindrazer
Who needs Colours?
My most played EDH deck:
X Kozilek, the Great Distortion
UBR Nekusar, the Mindrazer
Oh yes! I was about to post here about Ugin but I couldn't at the time.
Check this out tho.
"Blast Zone"
Land
Blast zone enters the battlefield with a charge counter on it.
T: Add <>
XX, T: Put X charge counters on Blast Zone.
3, T, Sacrifice Blast Zone: Destroy all nonland permanents with converted mana cost equal to the number of charge counters on Blast Zone.
Who needs Colours?
My most played EDH deck:
X Kozilek, the Great Distortion
UBR Nekusar, the Mindrazer
I got a pretty good proxy for the Tabernacle and I know i won't ever get it. I get you with the Proxy part, otherwise I only run my Workshop proxy that is quite good quality! Its just the back that gives it away (Its a bit darker).
Yeah, thats also why I didn't really get the Thought Vessel yet, its still really good, atleast for K.Distortion.
Nah, I haven't given up on the Distortion. Last games I've won was because of me getting out distortion haha. Suddenly they couldn't remove him and I could just keep going.And carrying around my Kozilek deck is quite... Its quite expensive atm ^^'... So Im focusing on other decks atm. Lately I've been delving into my odd and greedy Nekusar deck (holla at me if you want to see the list).
Who needs Colours?
My most played EDH deck:
X Kozilek, the Great Distortion
UBR Nekusar, the Mindrazer
This is my list so far. I think i have a bit many lands, but there's been so much artifacthate that i can't really go without it. And i added a Mox Diamond + a Tabernacle ;)For prices sakes haha.
EDIT: (Seems like I've alternated with Fractured Powerstone(I don't have a Thought Vessel !)
Anyway, here's the list:
1x Ashnod's Altar
1x Azor's Gateway Flip
1x Basalt Monolith
1x Chromatic Lantern
1x Clock of Omens
1x Cloud Key
1x Coalition Relic
1x Crucible of Worlds
1x Doubling Cube
1x Dreamstone Hedron
1x Erratic Portal
1x Everflowing Chalice
1x Expedition Map
1x Fellwar Stone
1x Gilded Lotus
1x Grim Monolith
1x Hedron Archive
1x Inspiring Statuary
1x Krark-Clan Ironworks
1x Kyren Toy
1x Lightning Greaves
1x Lion's Eye Diamond
1x Mana Vault
1x Memory Jar
1x Mind Stone
1x Mindslaver
1x Mirage Mirror
1x Mox Diamond
1x Mox Opal
1x Paradox Engine
1x Relic of Progenitus
1x Rings of Brighthearth
1x Scroll Rack ZH
1x Sculpting Steel
1x Sensei's Divining Top
1x Sol Ring
1x Spine of Ish Sah
1x Staff of Domination
1x Strionic Resonator
1x Swiftfoot Boots
1x Thran Dynamo
1x Torpor Orb
1x Transmogrifying Wand
1x Unwinding Clock
1x Ur-Golem's Eye
1x Voltaic Key
1x Welding Jar
1x Winter Orb
1x Worn Powerstone
1x Ancient Tomb
1x Ash Barrens
1x Blinkmoth Nexus
1x Blinkmoth Well
1x Buried Ruin
1x Cavern of Souls
1x Command Beacon
1x Crystal Vein
1x Darksteel Citadel
1x Deserted Temple
1x Drownyard Temple
1x Dust Bowl
1x Eldrazi Temple
1x Eye of Ugin
1x Ghost Quarter
1x High Market
1x Homeward Path
1x Inkmoth Nexus
1x Inventors' Fair
1x Maze of Ith
1x Miren, the Moaning Well
1x Mishra's Workshop
1x Phyrexia's Core
1x Reliquary Tower
1x Rogue's Passage
1x Sanctum of Ugin
1x Scavenger Grounds
1x Shrine of the Forsaken Gods
1x Strip Mine
1x Tectonic Edge
1x The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale
1x Thespian's Stage
1x Tower of the Magistrate
1x Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
1x Wasteland
2x Wastes
1x Zhalfirin Void
1x Kozilek, Butcher of Truth
Creature (8)
1x Duplicant
1x Geode Golem
1x Karn, Silver Golem
1x Kozilek, the Great Distortion
1x Kuldotha Forgemaster
1x Metalworker
1x Palladium Myr
1x Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre
Planeswalker (2)
1x Karn Liberated
1x Ugin, the Spirit Dragon DE
Instant (1)
1x Warping Wail
Sorcery (1)
1x All Is Dust
Who needs Colours?
My most played EDH deck:
X Kozilek, the Great Distortion
UBR Nekusar, the Mindrazer
Who needs Colours?
My most played EDH deck:
X Kozilek, the Great Distortion
UBR Nekusar, the Mindrazer
I never have such a problem really when it comes to the counters. Spawnsire was loud thinking haha.
But i was suprised that you even played Blinkmoth Urn, that was a card i quickly removed.
And i do play Butcher! Sometimes! Gonna try it this week just because!
Who needs Colours?
My most played EDH deck:
X Kozilek, the Great Distortion
UBR Nekusar, the Mindrazer
Yeah im just where you are with all of that haha. Been thinking if i should maybe move some big eldrazis to the sideboard and play my foil Spawnsire of Ulamog in their place. So i can play them from the sideboard. Problem is that my kozilek isn't as much of a threat like the Butcher, so i need some firepower. But we'll see.
Who needs Colours?
My most played EDH deck:
X Kozilek, the Great Distortion
UBR Nekusar, the Mindrazer
Mana Web is a card i should get. The most problem i usually have is against certain blue players. And besides, everybody is only fetching for island x type of duals in their multicoloured decks anyway ^^' . Or they're monoblack etc.
I still haven't gotten too many games in. Last cards i removed was Blightsteel Colossus (i wonder if i should replace this one with one of the other big eldrazis instead. I have a lot of options in the Eldrazi way. ) and Tangle Wire(really miss this card, i think it was a mistake to remove it.
Im also considering Void Winnower again, would be cool to see how it would impact a game today. It would/could shutdown quite a few commanders in our meta atm.
Too bad it does not stop the typical "Mana Flare" enchantments.
Who needs Colours?
My most played EDH deck:
X Kozilek, the Great Distortion
UBR Nekusar, the Mindrazer
Who needs Colours?
My most played EDH deck:
X Kozilek, the Great Distortion
UBR Nekusar, the Mindrazer