Also I probably could get to villager on you, but the fact that the game is over like 99% of the time is making me pretty ******* lazy.
My team is actually pretty sure you're town, I'm just trying to do my due diligence on the off-chance it's not Vezo, and in that world, I'm dead tonight, so the best path to victory I see is to take you off the table for a mislynch and let you/visor tag-team it tomorrow and lock in our two lynches to win it.
Hey, silver lining though, if vezo does flip v I'll give you my third shot tonight, how's that sound?
The game is def making everyone lazy and i am half tempted to just vote but at the same time i rather way for vezo to say stuff before that. Tom does alot of things that makes it hard for me or my teammates to see him in a good light. ESpically how he literally just said he would rather lynch me even if he thinks i am town just so i wont live to the end to be in the final 2v1 situation.
Shinichi, there's nothing for Vezo to say. He has no partners left to spew. He claimed a PR to dodge a lynch and then rescinded it, he has to die. Like... what exactly are you wanting him to say here that's going to influence how the rest of the game plays out?
And just to make sure this is landing: If Vezo is actually a villager, and there's any kill toNight, tom is mechanically clear as of tomorrow, because visor is roleblocking him and if tom's the last wolf the kill will be blocked.
Any death toNight = tom is 100% a villager
No death toNight = tom is the last wolf
Not trying to "get out of it" we both know our opinions don't matter and visor is gonna do what he wants. Idk maybe this makes him remember how I scum but again, not the point of this and I don't even think we're getting another night.
Personally, however, I would use it on dv>shattiel. But that's more because I have a better track record of reading manasi and... Well if shin is town id honestly rather mislynch him than have him cleared just for my own enjoyment and if he's scum id rather get there without mechanics.
Those are, like, pretty selfish reasons though and if I actually had the shot id feel obligated to do a deep dive on manasi before deciding.
But I'm definitely not bothering with that unless vezok flips town, so here I am just *****ing about how people are reading me when I think I should be pretty hard unaligned with BOTH flipped scum.
Also I don't even know why you think I'm likely the only thing I remember from you is not liking my you/vez dichotomy but my reasoning on your eod1 was proven correct more or less so... what up?
I don't disagree with any of that really. FWIW I think cantrip spewed you v pretty hard.
It's all pointless wool-gathering until and unless vezo flips town, and like I said, you're probably just a villager. But if I get to cop check someone tonight in the v!Vezo world, you're not a bad choice. You didn't have a real read on me all game and just kinda lowkey shaded me; that raises my hackles, and that's pretty much as complicated as that thought gets. If you're the last wolf, cool, bases covered. If you're a villager like I think you are, cool, you can visor can solve it in F5 unencumbered, instead of shinichi pointlessly pushing on you for random bull*****.
Also I probably could get to villager on you, but the fact that the game is over like 99% of the time is making me pretty ******* lazy.
My team is actually pretty sure you're town, I'm just trying to do my due diligence on the off-chance it's not Vezo, and in that world, I'm dead tonight, so the best path to victory I see is to take you off the table for a mislynch and let you/visor tag-team it tomorrow and lock in our two lynches to win it.
Hey, silver lining though, if vezo does flip v I'll give you my third shot tonight, how's that sound?
Idk why I'm annoyed by being a waste of an RB check if necessary. I know no one ever wants to clear me on behavior but really feel people should be able to get there this game just based on teambuilding.
This game seems pretty hard to lose from here but it's still real dumb that I even have to think about this.
Obviously I don't give a ***** about shins read I'm not even gonna bother explaining to him about the rb thing but Newcomb I'm disappointed in. Visor i assume knows better and wouldn't actually rb me even though Newcomb told him to and maybe I shouldn't be saying this and it's probably only making things worse but seriously come on
Definitely making it worse, lol.
I mean you're super super not getting out of it with that reaction, but out of curiosity, who would you block here?
In the world where Vezo's somehow a villager, you're looking at
D_V Shattiel
tomsloger
Shinichi
Manasi
For the last wolf.
Visor will block tom, so the worst-case world here is that both vezo and tom are villagers, meaning you go into the next Day with me dead and two clears, visor/tom, meaning you're finding the last wolf in DVslot, shinichi, Manasi.
I'd go DVslot->Manasi->Shinichi but don't remotely think it ever gets that far.
So my teammates have both suggested I look back at you tom cause just like me they thought your post saying i am scum if nacho was roleblocker seemed very off.
Gave him a RB shot last night, so if Vezo is somehow just a villager who made a really really really bad move, we either lock the game tonight or get a mechanical clear tomorrow.
I'd say block tom but whatever this is boring and over. Let's just agree on a RB before we hammer but otherwise this is a speedrun situation.
tom talk to me about you team's read on me, specifically one member of your team, w/r/t 100 mafia on DLP being over and whatever meta one member of your team picked up via osmosis, because I'm kinda struggling with your "i respect Newcomb's wolf game" thing being grounded in reality.
not a thing we talked about but they both liked my "Newcomb is either vig or scum" read off that eod and we ran some scenarios
When have I ever been anything but leery of you since that witchhunt though? What do you think should have changed?
That WitchHunt feels like ancient history; I know you've been fairly busy lately but my last two games on DLP consisted of "rand wolf, get dunked on D1 and lynched," and "rand town, get lock cleared D1", which. Feel like one member of your team would have picked up that at least a bit through osmosis at the very least.
I know you whiffed on me in that WH but that's very much the exception and not the rule. At this point, I'm pretty much considered an easier read than Vaimes.
From your PoV though I can see that "vig or wolf" thing being at least somewhat reasonable.
Let's just lynch wolf!Vezo and ride off into the sunset, IMO.
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Shinichi, there's nothing for Vezo to say. He has no partners left to spew. He claimed a PR to dodge a lynch and then rescinded it, he has to die. Like... what exactly are you wanting him to say here that's going to influence how the rest of the game plays out?
And just to make sure this is landing: If Vezo is actually a villager, and there's any kill toNight, tom is mechanically clear as of tomorrow, because visor is roleblocking him and if tom's the last wolf the kill will be blocked.
Any death toNight = tom is 100% a villager
No death toNight = tom is the last wolf
Clear?
I don't disagree with any of that really. FWIW I think cantrip spewed you v pretty hard.
It's all pointless wool-gathering until and unless vezo flips town, and like I said, you're probably just a villager. But if I get to cop check someone tonight in the v!Vezo world, you're not a bad choice. You didn't have a real read on me all game and just kinda lowkey shaded me; that raises my hackles, and that's pretty much as complicated as that thought gets. If you're the last wolf, cool, bases covered. If you're a villager like I think you are, cool, you can visor can solve it in F5 unencumbered, instead of shinichi pointlessly pushing on you for random bull*****.
My team is actually pretty sure you're town, I'm just trying to do my due diligence on the off-chance it's not Vezo, and in that world, I'm dead tonight, so the best path to victory I see is to take you off the table for a mislynch and let you/visor tag-team it tomorrow and lock in our two lynches to win it.
Hey, silver lining though, if vezo does flip v I'll give you my third shot tonight, how's that sound?
Definitely making it worse, lol.
I mean you're super super not getting out of it with that reaction, but out of curiosity, who would you block here?
vezokpiraka
randwolfsubout
D_V Shattiel
tomsloger
Shinichi
Manasi
I'm clear, visor's clear.
In the world where Vezo's somehow a villager, you're looking at
D_V Shattiel
tomsloger
Shinichi
Manasi
For the last wolf.
Visor will block tom, so the worst-case world here is that both vezo and tom are villagers, meaning you go into the next Day with me dead and two clears, visor/tom, meaning you're finding the last wolf in DVslot, shinichi, Manasi.
I'd go DVslot->Manasi->Shinichi but don't remotely think it ever gets that far.
I gave visor a gun N1, he shot the cantrip slot.
Gave him a RB shot last night, so if Vezo is somehow just a villager who made a really really really bad move, we either lock the game tonight or get a mechanical clear tomorrow.
I'd say block tom but whatever this is boring and over. Let's just agree on a RB before we hammer but otherwise this is a speedrun situation.
Vote: Vezo
I mean, you can watch yourself if you want to see Vezo shoot you.
That sound like fun to you, shinichi? Sound like a good time?
That WitchHunt feels like ancient history; I know you've been fairly busy lately but my last two games on DLP consisted of "rand wolf, get dunked on D1 and lynched," and "rand town, get lock cleared D1", which. Feel like one member of your team would have picked up that at least a bit through osmosis at the very least.
I know you whiffed on me in that WH but that's very much the exception and not the rule. At this point, I'm pretty much considered an easier read than Vaimes.
From your PoV though I can see that "vig or wolf" thing being at least somewhat reasonable.
Let's just lynch wolf!Vezo and ride off into the sunset, IMO.