@LW: The problem is that you think it’s acceptable, not just from a social aspect, but primarily from a game play aspect, to say things like:
“Your posts suck”
“Lol, that’s so scummy”
“I don’t like your posts”
It’s not acceptable. It’s rude and disrespectful, but most importantly, it’s just poor game play. I can say this because I’ve probably been playing this game longer than you have been able to actually read and write. Am I saying I’m the best player in the world? No. I don’t have the time, patience or brain cells that a lot of these players do, but I’ve been doing it a long time. So check yourself when you speak to someone like you’ve been speaking to me.
Now, to help you improve, I need to emphasize that you need to provide reasoning or proof to what you are saying here. It will help you as either alignment. Just saying things suck doesn’t help anyone. Now thanks for reporting me, I hope you have a swell day.
Sorry, but no. All of those phrases are acceptable in a mafia game. With the exceptions of "Your posts suck" which might be misconstrued, all of those are legitimate attacks. By my count you have insulted LW at least 3 times which is not allowed. Ad hominem should never be part of games we do for fun.
Sorry for the lash out, but I couldn't contain myself.
My quick take on Wuffles is that I find it weird that he'd flavor claim Darth Vader so hard. Like, if he is town, I hope he was just baiting scum and is VT. That's the only way that play makes sense as town. If he's scum, I just see no reason to flavor claim Darth Vader. Like none. Unless it's some crazy over the top WIFOM gambit. I just see no scum motivation for it.
I was really hoping to take a better look at the DV/OTA ISO, but ran out of time.
Well, here's as far as I got on my reads last night:
Ok, a little verbal streaming here.
1. Vezokpiraka: Like I said, I'm feeling like giving him a shot. Yeah, this is a 180 for me, but his last post felt genuine. I think the more Power Roles we have floating around the harder it's going to be for scum to make plays. The question with Vezo, hasn't really been is he the tracker, but more about if he's the scum tracker. If he's the scum tracker, it's really designed to locate Power Roles, and frankly I don't see this group being too quite about who has a PR, we've already had a bunch of claims and softs, I doubt there's a ton more to learn as a scum tracker. On the flip side, I think there's a chance a town Vezo can confirm someone or condemn someone and really help out our game state. The fact that Vezo's Day 1 wagon was almost identical to my Day 2 wagon, also gives me a moments pause on him being scum. 2. Vaimes: Reading through his ISO, it strikes me that DV's attack on him was completely out of left field and had no substance to it with tons of misrep mixed in there. Vaimes handled it exceedingly well. Better than I handled the attack on me. Actually, this is really making me hate the DV slot. It also looks bad on LW too, who was using equally poor reasoning to push vaimes. 3. Osieorb18: I can't imagine scum having this role, but I could imagine it as a mod-gaming FU from Shadow. For now I'm not even considering Osi scum. 4. Grapefruit21: I'm not getting a great feeling on this one. He was also in my original POE and reading through his ISO didn't help me feel better about him. Makes an early push on Fuwa, so I think its worth noting. I'm seeing a lot of questions and recaps, but not a lot of statements and solving. I do see DV poking at Grape a lot, I'd actually be a bit surprised to see DV and Grape both as scum. Grape seems passive about it, like he's trying to appease DV, but DV isn't. Grapes posting does gain content and improve down the line. He does make a comment that he'd Lynch Anuk, just for having no impact, which seems a weird way to put it, like no suspicion of actually being scum. He also seems to take a pretty significant 180 on me. When LW first starts going after me actually tells him to back off, but quickly starts making up reasons to scum read me once my wagon builds. He misreps me on several occasions when he's trying to encourage my Lynch. He was a late vote on the Anuk wagon. Doesn't hammer me when he could because he knows what it would look like when I flip. 5. Kpaca: I can't even begin to limp through his ISO right now. The short of my read on him is that he is town, but just wrong about some stuff. I don't really approve of his play style, but that's not my business. The similarities between how him and LW went about wagoning me and how DV pushed Vaimes is a bit concerning. My reason for town reading him is that he's trying to make things happen. The Faykill being the prime example, but also I've been struggling with some meta on him lately. I seemed to remember him as a derpy-lurky player from the last game I played with him (Silence of the lambs), but he was scum. His aggression and his arrogance this game is completely different. I'm not looking at Kpaca as scum for a while. 6. Wuffles_II:
7. Ganderin_dan Manasi
8. Rode-my
9. KamikazeArchon
10. Tubba Fett TheRealStinkyJoeTerry
12. Tomsloger
13. Lastwhisper
14. D_V DotArchon
15. Fuwa
16. Gentleman Johnny
@terry
I am allowed to discredit posts, get over it.
People do it to me all the time, I just move on
And just call it shade then, I'm also not the only one who does this, and several people have stated ur posts were mediocre, my lack of reasoning doesn't make it any less true.
Discrediting posts by saying they suck is BAD game play, I swear you have some reading disability when it comes to my posts, so I’ll explain it again. By discrediting posts with abstract concepts like “this sucks” people won’t take you seriously and more often than not scum read you for it. If you’re town, it’s against your wincon because we have to waste a lynch on you instead of scum, if you’re scum it’s against your win on because your team loses when all scum die.
I really am trying to help you and think this is probably why you are scum read so much. If it’s a play style thing, like kpaca, fine, but when it crosses over to personal attacks, I won’t put up with it.
Shoot, I thought we had more than 6 hours left. Not going to be able to finish all my reads while at work. I need to read Fuwa again, but I’m leaning towards voting grape
@LW: The problem is that you think it’s acceptable, not just from a social aspect, but primarily from a game play aspect, to say things like:
“Your posts suck”
“Lol, that’s so scummy”
“I don’t like your posts”
It’s not acceptable. It’s rude and disrespectful, but most importantly, it’s just poor game play. I can say this because I’ve probably been playing this game longer than you have been able to actually read and write. Am I saying I’m the best player in the world? No. I don’t have the time, patience or brain cells that a lot of these players do, but I’ve been doing it a long time. So check yourself when you speak to someone like you’ve been speaking to me.
Now, to help you improve, I need to emphasize that you need to provide reasoning or proof to what you are saying here. It will help you as either alignment. Just saying things suck doesn’t help anyone. Now thanks for reporting me, I hope you have a swell day.
look who is reaching now... thats a cute conclusion you came too, its wrong, but cute...
how about you vote Kpaca, huh? I mean either way this is fuel for me, it just confirms thats you are W/W with Vezok when he flips scum
You are going to have to be more specific
Also, trying to start a new wagon with under 24 hours till deadline, and there is a very real chance not every player will post between then? Why would I even bother?
has nothing to do with starting a new train before deadline, and look whats happening right now... Grape wasnt even a blip on the map till recently, wtf are people even scum reading him for...
Fair point. Combination of not an active hunter, but he has done more than some of the others.
Let me ask you this: What do you make of Terry/tom being on vezok as well?
doesn't bother me at all, I think Tom is town, and Terry's posts will always suck to me, they sucked in Arhkam and they suck here, and idk what to think of him, but if I'd was worried about voting with everyone that I have slight worries over, then i probably wouldn't vote with a lot of people...
Oh look at hot **** LW, with his super great posting. Dude. You are a useless piece of spamming dead weight to the thread. Go play in the sandbox and let grown ups talk.
@LW: You should replace your vote where ever it was. I think an auto-counter will register your last post as voting Grape. I do have to say, I'm tempted to jump on that wagon.
Man, something about how I really wanted to vote vezok for quite a while, and no one did, and then all of a sudden people are down to wagon him out of no where. This has put a real bad taste in my mouth.
Damnit. I agree with you. Vezo's last post felt genuine. Let's give him a shot.
@LW: Thank you for your effort. Now stop posting for a while. I need to stop being distracted by your and kpacas antics. It seems like this game has devolved into me, you and kpaca calling each other stupid. There are 12 other players that need to be discussed and that need to have discussions.
I think LW/Kpaca is possible, but I think the Faykill demonstrates that kpaca is trying to make things happen to catch scum. I think LW saying, ok well I’m VT is actually the correct play as scum, not necessarily the correct play as town.
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I was really hoping to take a better look at the DV/OTA ISO, but ran out of time.
Ok, a little verbal streaming here.
1. Vezokpiraka: Like I said, I'm feeling like giving him a shot. Yeah, this is a 180 for me, but his last post felt genuine. I think the more Power Roles we have floating around the harder it's going to be for scum to make plays. The question with Vezo, hasn't really been is he the tracker, but more about if he's the scum tracker. If he's the scum tracker, it's really designed to locate Power Roles, and frankly I don't see this group being too quite about who has a PR, we've already had a bunch of claims and softs, I doubt there's a ton more to learn as a scum tracker. On the flip side, I think there's a chance a town Vezo can confirm someone or condemn someone and really help out our game state. The fact that Vezo's Day 1 wagon was almost identical to my Day 2 wagon, also gives me a moments pause on him being scum.
2. Vaimes: Reading through his ISO, it strikes me that DV's attack on him was completely out of left field and had no substance to it with tons of misrep mixed in there. Vaimes handled it exceedingly well. Better than I handled the attack on me. Actually, this is really making me hate the DV slot. It also looks bad on LW too, who was using equally poor reasoning to push vaimes.
3. Osieorb18: I can't imagine scum having this role, but I could imagine it as a mod-gaming FU from Shadow. For now I'm not even considering Osi scum.
4. Grapefruit21: I'm not getting a great feeling on this one. He was also in my original POE and reading through his ISO didn't help me feel better about him. Makes an early push on Fuwa, so I think its worth noting. I'm seeing a lot of questions and recaps, but not a lot of statements and solving. I do see DV poking at Grape a lot, I'd actually be a bit surprised to see DV and Grape both as scum. Grape seems passive about it, like he's trying to appease DV, but DV isn't. Grapes posting does gain content and improve down the line. He does make a comment that he'd Lynch Anuk, just for having no impact, which seems a weird way to put it, like no suspicion of actually being scum. He also seems to take a pretty significant 180 on me. When LW first starts going after me actually tells him to back off, but quickly starts making up reasons to scum read me once my wagon builds. He misreps me on several occasions when he's trying to encourage my Lynch. He was a late vote on the Anuk wagon. Doesn't hammer me when he could because he knows what it would look like when I flip.
5. Kpaca: I can't even begin to limp through his ISO right now. The short of my read on him is that he is town, but just wrong about some stuff. I don't really approve of his play style, but that's not my business. The similarities between how him and LW went about wagoning me and how DV pushed Vaimes is a bit concerning. My reason for town reading him is that he's trying to make things happen. The Faykill being the prime example, but also I've been struggling with some meta on him lately. I seemed to remember him as a derpy-lurky player from the last game I played with him (Silence of the lambs), but he was scum. His aggression and his arrogance this game is completely different. I'm not looking at Kpaca as scum for a while.
6. Wuffles_II:
7.
Ganderin_danManasi8. Rode-my
9. KamikazeArchon
10.
Tubba FettTheRealStinkyJoeTerry12. Tomsloger
13. Lastwhisper
14.
D_VDotArchon15. Fuwa
16. Gentleman Johnny
I really am trying to help you and think this is probably why you are scum read so much. If it’s a play style thing, like kpaca, fine, but when it crosses over to personal attacks, I won’t put up with it.
“Your posts suck”
“Lol, that’s so scummy”
“I don’t like your posts”
It’s not acceptable. It’s rude and disrespectful, but most importantly, it’s just poor game play. I can say this because I’ve probably been playing this game longer than you have been able to actually read and write. Am I saying I’m the best player in the world? No. I don’t have the time, patience or brain cells that a lot of these players do, but I’ve been doing it a long time. So check yourself when you speak to someone like you’ve been speaking to me.
Now, to help you improve, I need to emphasize that you need to provide reasoning or proof to what you are saying here. It will help you as either alignment. Just saying things suck doesn’t help anyone. Now thanks for reporting me, I hope you have a swell day.
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