@DV: You got scumread, because the Poe was closing in on you. The only other people that even had a chance of being scum were Bur and KA. Bur knew he was town and KA was mostly townie. Being AFK in the beginning really screwed your chances as most reads were already solidified.
KA was just not scummy. Shadow was a faint possibility for me, but it was really just Bur or DoTA at that point.
Osie has also REFUSED to engage me in any discussion about actions.
Claiming its all wine. Which is literally bull.
Osie is dodging arguments, scum reading me for literally being the "Only one left". While also scum reading me for posting READS about the game, and not combating the reads at all.
Huh. This looks like real anger from DV... I'm intrigued. Very intrigued.
What do you mean by "refused?"
I'm honestly not sure what it is that you expected me to respond to with actions discussion.
Okay, let me rephrase my earlier question. How does Shinichi flipping town -> Bur/DoTA being lower on PoE.
I'm not seeing this link between Shinichi flipping town and me/DoTA specifically being lower on your PoE, compared to others like vezok.
"I'm still thinking pretty individually." -> While my list might change based on further analysis, I'm more likely to start looking at townleans than I am at townreads if my scumleans/scumreads are wrong. So since you guys are less townie than the others, you'd be looked at earlier. Is that simple enough or do I need to reiterate the same point again? Basically, Vezok, Kami, and to a degree Shadow look good. You two look okay. DV and Shinichi look bad. I'm going to look at the people who look okay before the people who look good.
Alternative, possibly more cross-cultural explanation:
I can give out booze or stab people. I know that I would give booze to Vezok, Kami, and probably Shadow. I know I would stab DV and Shinichi. You and DoTA are unclear. I know I want to see two scum stabbed. So if one of DV or Shinichi should get booze instead of being stabbed, then one of you and DoTA are the first people to look at for stabbing. And then the other one of you two would get some booze.
(Can you guess what webcomic I've been reading all morning?)
@osie: I don't think you ever followed up your #204: How does Shinichi flipping town make me or shadow more suspicious in your eyes?
What are your reads on non-Shinichi people right now and why?
If you could murder someone right now, who'd you kill (and why)?
Because you'd move down in POE, though at the moment it's more you and DoTA than you and Shadow. Worlds are pretty limited for me at this time; I'm still thinking pretty individually.
But I can go over everyone else I guess.
I'd probably shoot DV because he seems like he's either a not-very-helpful town or the other scum besides Shinichi. He's come into the thread after doing next to nothing, chosen town, and then made up reads on them. I might want to see Shadow's flip at that point for the sole reason that I could be pocketed by him this game, but primarily if not DV, then moving up on reads would be you or DoTA. Picking out of the two of you is pretty hard since I see town elements (good questions) and non-town elements on both of you. A lot of what you're saying is very global, very "Give me your impression," without "X specific detail." But you also have some of the latter, such as your questioning of Kami in #161. DoTA similarly is kinda just "What are your thoughts," though he also had the very specific question of Vezok in #105. Out of the two of you, I like fewer of DoTA's posts, but the posts I do like, I like more. You average out to about the same, though. I figured I'd be able to better decide after Shinichi's flip. Interaction analysis might happen today if I'm not too busy.
I think Bur is town. I'm willing to shoot first if Bur is willing to holster.
This A gives Bur approval of my shot and B I doubt Bur has come to a town read on me yet so this speeds things up.
Bur give me your top 3? Members to shoot.
Mine at this point are
Osie
Osie
Osie
Easy for you to say.
Cool.
I really like all the one liner bs you keep posting. You keep making posts on the dumbest things. Ignoring larger scale arguments. And have basically said that any analysis this game is wine, and refused to back it up.
But yeah.
Easy for me to say because why exactly?
I mean, you come in after being relatively inactive and then you just go for someone who is scumreading you. And you've been kinda noncontributory this game even when you were here. So why the heck should anybody take this as anything other than OMGUS?
Osie what's Shinichi's actual experience playing scum?
Well, I talked with you about the not-so-great game. He's played some on MAL that I haven't seen. And then he has a decent tendency to roll scum when playing live. Like, possibly a third of the live games have had Chad as scum.
I ask because I had an attack used against me on MU that was an insanely good point.
I didn't vote my counter wagon at the end of the day. I'm trying to figure out if Chad is town that is unsure of reads and doesn't want to shoot or scum that doesn't want to shoot town and look scummy.
The problem with the second is that its strictly a better play for him to shoot period. I'm confused why there was no shot.
I think that indicates that he is town no?
Not necessarily. Too much wine involved, but either decision has potential.
That's some sick analysis there.
Its not wine.
If scum, he could reasonably try to trick people into saving him by not shooting.
If town, he could reasonably shoot to get a stronger read flipped.
Osie what's Shinichi's actual experience playing scum?
Well, I talked with you about the not-so-great game. He's played some on MAL that I haven't seen. And then he has a decent tendency to roll scum when playing live. Like, possibly a third of the live games have had Chad as scum.
I ask because I had an attack used against me on MU that was an insanely good point.
I didn't vote my counter wagon at the end of the day. I'm trying to figure out if Chad is town that is unsure of reads and doesn't want to shoot or scum that doesn't want to shoot town and look scummy.
The problem with the second is that its strictly a better play for him to shoot period. I'm confused why there was no shot.
I think that indicates that he is town no?
Not necessarily. Too much wine involved, but either decision has potential.
Osie what's Shinichi's actual experience playing scum?
Well, I talked with you about the not-so-great game. He's played some on MAL that I haven't seen. And then he has a decent tendency to roll scum when playing live. Like, possibly a third of the live games have had Chad as scum.
Fight or Flight
No. I don't think that's a good idea and some mods would not allow it.
KA was just not scummy. Shadow was a faint possibility for me, but it was really just Bur or DoTA at that point.
This is a really bad question, but I'll give you this:
If I was scum, why would I be so impulsive as to shoot at Kami rather than wait? Why would I be focused more on game-solving than on offense/defense?
Anyways...
Huh. This looks like real anger from DV... I'm intrigued. Very intrigued.
What do you mean by "refused?"
I'm honestly not sure what it is that you expected me to respond to with actions discussion.
"I'm still thinking pretty individually." -> While my list might change based on further analysis, I'm more likely to start looking at townleans than I am at townreads if my scumleans/scumreads are wrong. So since you guys are less townie than the others, you'd be looked at earlier. Is that simple enough or do I need to reiterate the same point again? Basically, Vezok, Kami, and to a degree Shadow look good. You two look okay. DV and Shinichi look bad. I'm going to look at the people who look okay before the people who look good.
Alternative, possibly more cross-cultural explanation:
I can give out booze or stab people. I know that I would give booze to Vezok, Kami, and probably Shadow. I know I would stab DV and Shinichi. You and DoTA are unclear. I know I want to see two scum stabbed. So if one of DV or Shinichi should get booze instead of being stabbed, then one of you and DoTA are the first people to look at for stabbing. And then the other one of you two would get some booze.
(Can you guess what webcomic I've been reading all morning?)
Because you'd move down in POE, though at the moment it's more you and DoTA than you and Shadow. Worlds are pretty limited for me at this time; I'm still thinking pretty individually.
But I can go over everyone else I guess.
I'd probably shoot DV because he seems like he's either a not-very-helpful town or the other scum besides Shinichi. He's come into the thread after doing next to nothing, chosen town, and then made up reads on them. I might want to see Shadow's flip at that point for the sole reason that I could be pocketed by him this game, but primarily if not DV, then moving up on reads would be you or DoTA. Picking out of the two of you is pretty hard since I see town elements (good questions) and non-town elements on both of you. A lot of what you're saying is very global, very "Give me your impression," without "X specific detail." But you also have some of the latter, such as your questioning of Kami in #161. DoTA similarly is kinda just "What are your thoughts," though he also had the very specific question of Vezok in #105. Out of the two of you, I like fewer of DoTA's posts, but the posts I do like, I like more. You average out to about the same, though. I figured I'd be able to better decide after Shinichi's flip. Interaction analysis might happen today if I'm not too busy.
I mean, you come in after being relatively inactive and then you just go for someone who is scumreading you. And you've been kinda noncontributory this game even when you were here. So why the heck should anybody take this as anything other than OMGUS?
Easy for you to say.
Of relevance.
@DoTA: Same thing that Shadow said.
If scum, he could reasonably try to trick people into saving him by not shooting.
If town, he could reasonably shoot to get a stronger read flipped.
Not necessarily. Too much wine involved, but either decision has potential.
Well, I talked with you about the not-so-great game. He's played some on MAL that I haven't seen. And then he has a decent tendency to roll scum when playing live. Like, possibly a third of the live games have had Chad as scum.
If Shinichi flips town (which I don't think he will) then I'm looking at you guys.