Yeah, I'm pretty much right in line with you on a lot of these, especially K'rrik. I'm planning on getting the deck he's in, so I'll probably at least try him out with Original Flavor Chainer, but it feels like either a trap or win-more, neither of which I'm super interested in right now.
Thieving Amalgam seems great, but overall not a great set for the way I want my deck to run. Although, honestly, getting just one good card per set is probably an OK thing, as fast as they put out new sets right now...
I like Bontu a lot! I already love Abhorrent Overlord, and this makes it even better! And there's almost always something on the table I don't mind getting rid of and bringing back with Chainer. I'll definitely be trying him out.
With the spoilers today, I think there are already a few cards I'd love to try out! I've linked these to mythicspoiler, but if that's not the right thing to do, I can come back and edit that. Also, lyonhaert, if you want me to hold off posting about new cards, I definitely can in the future, I'm just excited to talk about them (and also procrastinate the paper I'm supposed to be writing...) I'll also put them in a spoiler tag, just to be safe
Liliana, Dreadhorde General - The passive ability is already one we want. And the other three abilities are all very relevant. It's tougher to kill than a creature like Harvester of Souls, but of course it's also harder for Chainer to do his thing with them. I think I'll try it at least.
Bolas's Citadel - Ad Nauseam that we can control a little better? Devotion? Seems pretty good to me.
Ob Nixilis, the Hate-Twisted - The static is fun, and plays well with the activated ability. It's cute, but I don't think we're a deck that wants to give too many cards to opponents, and Underworld Dreams is cheaper and better for devotion.
Ob Nixilis's Cruelty - I run both Ashes to Ashes and Gild, because I've got an Avacyn deck I run into pretty often. So I appreciate the ability to exile creatures in black, but I'm not sold on this.
Yeah, thanks! You talked me out of spending an extra $40
I do have a timing question you might be able to answer. I have Homeward Path in the deck, and I've seen you mention it a few times in the thread. Does the following work, timing-wise?
Player A attacks Player B with a big beater, like a supercharged Managorger Hydra or something. It doesn't really matter.
B is dead on board with no blockers, but has creatures in his graveyard. So I can pay to reanimate a creature with Chainer, and then Homeward Path the reanimation target (let's say, since this is all an imagination exercise, it's something like Sidisi, Undead Vizier so I'll also get a bonus for its ETB, and has deathtouch for some insult to injury to A) to give B the blocker he needs to stay alive?
Honestly, I'm there with you on Gary/Koko/Exsanguinate. They're great a couple times, but they do tend to make the way I play the deck too linear. I'm working on other, more interesting finishers as well. I haven't run Gonti yet, but he's high on my list.
I'll be running it again Tuesday night so I'll see how I feel about it. It's honestly been a while since I've played.
As a fellow Chainer guy I'd love to get in on this discussion!
I started building mine back in about 2014, during a pretty tough time in my life, so this deck is really special to me. I was actually kind of surprised how little overlap there was in our decks, and I'm still reading through the (excellent) OP to see where our philosophies differ, but I'm always happy to find someone to gush over my precious child with
Here's my decklist (and here's the tappedout link). It's built to last through long, grinding games and I want to be able to reuse everything in the deck as often as possible. It's pretty artifact heavy, so I've had to find a few different ways to recur artifacts (and the means to recur those means of recurrance...)
Once I'm more caught up on the thread, I'll hopefully have more interesting insight.
Thieving Amalgam seems great, but overall not a great set for the way I want my deck to run. Although, honestly, getting just one good card per set is probably an OK thing, as fast as they put out new sets right now...
WU Bruna UW | R Kiki-Jiki R | RB New Chainer BR
Legacy - Burn | Pauper - Reanimator | Aristocrats | Burn
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WU Bruna UW | R Kiki-Jiki R | RB New Chainer BR
Legacy - Burn | Pauper - Reanimator | Aristocrats | Burn
@votechainer2016
Bolas's Citadel - Ad Nauseam that we can control a little better? Devotion? Seems pretty good to me.
Ob Nixilis, the Hate-Twisted - The static is fun, and plays well with the activated ability. It's cute, but I don't think we're a deck that wants to give too many cards to opponents, and Underworld Dreams is cheaper and better for devotion.
Ob Nixilis's Cruelty - I run both Ashes to Ashes and Gild, because I've got an Avacyn deck I run into pretty often. So I appreciate the ability to exile creatures in black, but I'm not sold on this.
WU Bruna UW | R Kiki-Jiki R | RB New Chainer BR
Legacy - Burn | Pauper - Reanimator | Aristocrats | Burn
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I do have a timing question you might be able to answer. I have Homeward Path in the deck, and I've seen you mention it a few times in the thread. Does the following work, timing-wise?
Player A attacks Player B with a big beater, like a supercharged Managorger Hydra or something. It doesn't really matter.
B is dead on board with no blockers, but has creatures in his graveyard. So I can pay to reanimate a creature with Chainer, and then Homeward Path the reanimation target (let's say, since this is all an imagination exercise, it's something like Sidisi, Undead Vizier so I'll also get a bonus for its ETB, and has deathtouch for some insult to injury to A) to give B the blocker he needs to stay alive?
All in response to A's declared attack.
WU Bruna UW | R Kiki-Jiki R | RB New Chainer BR
Legacy - Burn | Pauper - Reanimator | Aristocrats | Burn
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It's also just a freaking cool card.
WU Bruna UW | R Kiki-Jiki R | RB New Chainer BR
Legacy - Burn | Pauper - Reanimator | Aristocrats | Burn
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I'll be running it again Tuesday night so I'll see how I feel about it. It's honestly been a while since I've played.
WU Bruna UW | R Kiki-Jiki R | RB New Chainer BR
Legacy - Burn | Pauper - Reanimator | Aristocrats | Burn
@votechainer2016
I started building mine back in about 2014, during a pretty tough time in my life, so this deck is really special to me. I was actually kind of surprised how little overlap there was in our decks, and I'm still reading through the (excellent) OP to see where our philosophies differ, but I'm always happy to find someone to gush over my precious child with
Here's my decklist (and here's the tappedout link). It's built to last through long, grinding games and I want to be able to reuse everything in the deck as often as possible. It's pretty artifact heavy, so I've had to find a few different ways to recur artifacts (and the means to recur those means of recurrance...)
Once I'm more caught up on the thread, I'll hopefully have more interesting insight.
1 Chainer, Dementia Master
Creatures
1 Abhorrent Overlord
1 Bloodgift Demon
1 Crypt Ghast
1 Dimir House Guard
1 Disciple of Bolas
1 Erebos, God of the Dead
1 Fleshbag Marauder
1 Golgari Thug
1 Graveborn Muse
1 Gray Merchant of Asphodel
1 Kokusho, the Evening Star
1 Myr Retriever
1 Noxious Gearhulk
1 Rune-Scarred Demon
1 Sepulchral Primordial
1 Sidisi, Undead Vizier
1 Soldevi Adnate
1 Solemn Simulacrum
1 Steel Hellkite
1 Stinkweed Imp
1 Vulturous Aven
1 Wurmcoil Engine
1 Xiahou Dun, the One-Eyed
1 Zulaport Cutthroat
Sorceries
1 All Hallow's Eve
1 Ashes to Ashes
1 Black Sun's Zenith
1 Damnable Pact
1 Damnation
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Exsanguinate
1 Killing Wave
1 Mutilate
1 Rise of the Dark Realms
1 Syphon Mind
1 Altar of Dementia
1 Ashnod's Altar
1 Caged Sun
1 Chromatic Lantern
1 Crucible of Worlds
1 Expedition Map
1 Gilded Lotus
1 Lightning Greaves
1 Mindcrank
1 Nevinyrral's Disk
1 Pristine Talisman
1 Skullclamp
1 Sol Ring
1 Spine of Ish Sah
1 Trading Post
1 Vedalken Orrery
1 Wayfarer's Bauble
1 Whip of Erebos
Enchantments
1 Infernal Tribute
1 Necromancer's Stockpile
1 Necropotence
1 Oubliette
1 Underworld Dreams
Instants
1 Hero's Downfall
1 Slaughter Pact
1 Snuff Out
1 Tragic Slip
22 Swamp
1 Bojuka Bog
1 Boseiju, Who Shelters All
1 Buried Ruin
1 Cabal Coffers
1 Dakmor Salvage
1 Dust Bowl
1 High Market
1 Homeward Path
1 Miren, the Moaning Well
1 Myriad Landscape
1 Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx
1 Reliquary Tower
1 Thespian's Stage
1 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
1 Vesuva
WU Bruna UW | R Kiki-Jiki R | RB New Chainer BR
Legacy - Burn | Pauper - Reanimator | Aristocrats | Burn
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