Hello guys! Been watching this thread for a while now, and as I got my deck complete just a few weeks ago, I have some questions:
1. I really feel like I need a Terminate either main or SB, been loosing a lot to tasigur/eldrazis. What do you recommend removing to make room? -1 Decay?
2. I miss Anger of the Gods and a Ethersworn Canonist in the sb. Do you think it's necessary, and what would you remove? This also brings us to:
3. Graveyard hate. Is 3 pieces necessary or could one be removed to make room for Anger? What configuration would you play? (1 Cage +1 spellbomb, 2 surgicals, 2 cage or spellbomb?)
I'll be playing a big tournament on saturday, with players from all of northern Sweden, so any advice is welcome. After that is preparation for GP Birmingham.
My list:
Surgicals have done wonders for me when paired with fulminator mage and also for disrupting storm and other combo strategies. Other than the cages my side board looks basically identical to yours. I've considered cutting the spellbomb for a sweeper but I find that the deck run enough removal to keep up with the creatures on board but not enough gy hate at only 2 pieces in sb. Just something to consider. If your meta is elves heavy then def swap them
Okay so after some testing against tron and valacut I finally occurred to me that Fulminator was amazing and I couldn't believe I had been so stupid as to not put it in before. Here is my current list:
I've noticed recently that liliana of the veil is much better against a lot of decks where last hope is more niche against certain archetypes. I've had a lot of trouble vs UW control was wondering what others have done to help in this matchup. Any suggestions for main or side are appreciated. Is kataki good over Grudge? Is painful truths a good addition if so where? Do I still need spellbomb in side it's nice vs gy decks but I've been a bit underwhelmed by it recently. Thanks!
To echo everyone else, get on the Bauble train and never look back. You can find Played copies on ebay for around $25-$30. I suggest selling cards you don't use to cover this cost. You won't regret it.
Side:
1x Ranger
2x Nihil Spellbomb
1x Surgical
2x Ancient Grudge
2x Collective Brutality
1x Kozilek's Return
2x Liliana L
3x Souls
1x Maelstrom Pulse
Thoughts are appreciated. I've liked the no ghor clan and the no basic forest for a while now. Blood moon is tough if they get it out without me thoughtseizing it away but other than that it feels better to not have the liability of the basic forest. The two Lili split is great bc Veil is just more effective against more decks and can save me in a pinch. In my sideboard I've dedicated a lot of spots to beating affinity bc honestly I feel that its one of this deck's worst match ups and usually some of the most experienced players play affinity due to it's long life time in the game. I have 3 graveyard hate spells, some sweepers, and the extra disruption. I so far have had no problem beating Breach with this configuration. I have only come across one BG Tron deck and I found my success with trying to kill him as fast as possible while disrupting his hand. With all the ways the have at their disposal to get tron online I find that as long as they don't draw a second Ugin the match is yours. If the meta was to be taken over by Tron decks for some reason and I needed to put three fulminator in the board I would like to know what you all would change. Thanks!
So I have a question. Why does everyone seem to run 3 Fulminator without question. I know it's effective against Tron and Eldrazi Tron and it has applications in the Burn match-up but in my experience its too slow. I would much rather use those three slots in the board to make all my other match-ups better. Please let me know what you all think and whether I'm right or just being a scrub who doesn't run Fulminator. Thanks!
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Surgicals have done wonders for me when paired with fulminator mage and also for disrupting storm and other combo strategies. Other than the cages my side board looks basically identical to yours. I've considered cutting the spellbomb for a sweeper but I find that the deck run enough removal to keep up with the creatures on board but not enough gy hate at only 2 pieces in sb. Just something to consider. If your meta is elves heavy then def swap them
4x Shadow
4x Goyf
4x Wraith
4x Bauble
4x Push
4x Inquisition
2x Tarfire
4x Thoughtseize
4x Traverse
2x Decay
2x Battlerage
2x Command
2x Liliana Veil
1x Blood Crypt
4x Bloodstained
1x Forest
1x Godless
1x Marsh Flats
2x Overgrown
1x Stomping
1x Swamp
4x Verdant
2x Wooded
SB:
3x Fulminator
1x Ranger
1x Spellbomb
2x Surgical
1x Grudge
2x Collective
1x Lili Last Hope
3x Lingering Souls
1x Maelstrom Pulse
I've noticed recently that liliana of the veil is much better against a lot of decks where last hope is more niche against certain archetypes. I've had a lot of trouble vs UW control was wondering what others have done to help in this matchup. Any suggestions for main or side are appreciated. Is kataki good over Grudge? Is painful truths a good addition if so where? Do I still need spellbomb in side it's nice vs gy decks but I've been a bit underwhelmed by it recently. Thanks!
Takes out etched champion since affinity is so prominent right now.
4x:
Death's Shadow
Goyf
Wraith
4x:
Bauble
Push
Inquisition
Thoughtseize
Traverse
2x:
Tarfire
Decay
Battlerage
Command
Lili V
4x:
Bloodstained
Verdant
Polluted
2x Overgrown
1x Blood Crypt
1x Stomping Ground
1x Godlesss Shrine
1x Swamp
Side:
1x Ranger
2x Nihil Spellbomb
1x Surgical
2x Ancient Grudge
2x Collective Brutality
1x Kozilek's Return
2x Liliana L
3x Souls
1x Maelstrom Pulse
Thoughts are appreciated. I've liked the no ghor clan and the no basic forest for a while now. Blood moon is tough if they get it out without me thoughtseizing it away but other than that it feels better to not have the liability of the basic forest. The two Lili split is great bc Veil is just more effective against more decks and can save me in a pinch. In my sideboard I've dedicated a lot of spots to beating affinity bc honestly I feel that its one of this deck's worst match ups and usually some of the most experienced players play affinity due to it's long life time in the game. I have 3 graveyard hate spells, some sweepers, and the extra disruption. I so far have had no problem beating Breach with this configuration. I have only come across one BG Tron deck and I found my success with trying to kill him as fast as possible while disrupting his hand. With all the ways the have at their disposal to get tron online I find that as long as they don't draw a second Ugin the match is yours. If the meta was to be taken over by Tron decks for some reason and I needed to put three fulminator in the board I would like to know what you all would change. Thanks!