I would not touch damping sphere atm especially since fulminator is really good due to control atm.
Hey, so I haven't posted in here a long time. Been really busy with life stuff, but I'm going to GP Vegas this week and besides playing FNM last week, I hadn't played magic since the last SCG Open I went to which was like 3 months ago. I took your most recent list and went 4-0 (with a round 1 bye) at the local FNM. Beat Eldrazi Tron, Mono Red Prison (Chalice/Blood Moon/SSG?), and something else I don't recall. Do you have any sideboarding guides for the more recent meta? I haven't played against a lot of the newer decks like ironworks combo and only played against hollow one and humans twice.
I scrubbed out at 4-4. I kinda stopped caring at 3 losses and made a HORRIBLE misplay in round 8 to lose it, but I'll write a more detailed-ish reported tomorrow.
Going to try again in the classic tomorrow. Does anyone have jadines or connets list?
Currently 2-2. Lost round 1 and 2 to RB Hollow One (0-2, he drew amazing both games) and Bogles (1-2.) I won round 3 and 4 against a weird dredge/emerge deck (2-0) and Jund (2-0.)
About to head to the event now with my full sideboard guide thanks to Delver. I feel pretty good about it since I did pretty well last night - but my deck drew straight gas last night multiple times. I was getting pretty lucky. I'm going to TRY and take some notes and do a write up, but I'm horrible at remembering things so we will see how that goes...
Went 4-1 in a local fnm in fort worth. Played against Valakut(2-0), Jund(2-1), Humans(2-1), Affinity(0-2), and Jeskai Control(2-1). Felt pretty good. The 2nd game against affinity he had darksteel into 2 etched and another darksteel, so felt bad.
So I will be heading to the SCG Open this weekend and might run the list you both are testing. I need some help with the sideboard guide though. There's a lot of matches I've never played against, but still want to have a general idea what to do vs them.
Here is the 75 for anyone else that wants to chime in as well..
The only thing I considered was to replace the TS in the board either with Duress or a third CB to hedge a bit more against Burn.
But other than that, I still have no clue how many discard, how many lands and how many three drops is right, so I just stick to what I know works as of now.
How would you sideboard vs Eldrazi Tron, Titanshift, Bogles, and Grixis Death's Shadow?
That way I got my 6 discard spells covered, and got enough removal for smaller creatures decks, which are seing play a ton of right now, we just cant be a value grindy machine at this point. Pulse will be in the SB obviously.
What will your board look like with that last? I assume something similar too:
Also, not sure if I only want to have Pulse in the Sideboard. I feel like it's such a good catchall card. I know it can be slow in some match ups, but I feel like I'm almost never sad to see that card.
You need at least 1 more black source pref 2 to land Lilianas at a confortable % on turn 3.
This is the list Im atm.
I know you want to flaunt your foil deck, but can you please post a normal decklist like everyone else. No one wants to try and decipher your picture..
This is such a silly argument; the question was answered for us long ago. There was actually a time BBE Jund existed before the printing of Deathrite Shaman but after the banning of Punishing Fire. Back then people were running anywhere from ~8-10 three-drops in addition to 4 BBE, not very far away from what is being run today, and you cannot find lists that run less than 25 land. Here are just a few top finishes when I searched only for decklists at Premier events, you can look for less competitive tournaments if you wish:
Unless you're going to argue to me that the entire professional community in 2012 was collectively having a stroke, this is a settled question. Obviously you can always cheat on land and hope to get lucky. After all it's just one card. But don't kid yourself.
You can't take information from a meta 5 years ago and directly apply it to current day. The decks that Jund was facing back then could be completely different than what our meta ends up being today. I agree that we should start at 25 lands, and go from there. However, you can use the information from the those decks - but don't apply it as a fact like you seem to be doing.
How would you sb vs merfolk, death/taxes, and blue moon? Thanks a ton!
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Hey, so I haven't posted in here a long time. Been really busy with life stuff, but I'm going to GP Vegas this week and besides playing FNM last week, I hadn't played magic since the last SCG Open I went to which was like 3 months ago. I took your most recent list and went 4-0 (with a round 1 bye) at the local FNM. Beat Eldrazi Tron, Mono Red Prison (Chalice/Blood Moon/SSG?), and something else I don't recall. Do you have any sideboarding guides for the more recent meta? I haven't played against a lot of the newer decks like ironworks combo and only played against hollow one and humans twice.
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How about connett?
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Going to try again in the classic tomorrow. Does anyone have jadines or connets list?
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So I will be heading to the SCG Open this weekend and might run the list you both are testing. I need some help with the sideboard guide though. There's a lot of matches I've never played against, but still want to have a general idea what to do vs them.
Here is the 75 for anyone else that wants to chime in as well..
4 Bloodbraid Elf
4 Dark Confidant
2 Scavenging Ooze
4 Tarmogoyf
Planeswalkers (4)
4 Liliana of the Veil
Instants (10)
2 Fatal Push
2 Kolaghan's Command
4 Lightning Bolt
2 Terminate
Sorceries (8)
4 Inquisition of Kozilek
2 Maelstrom Pulse
2 Thoughtseize
2 Forest
2 Swamp
4 Blackcleave Cliffs
1 Blood Crypt
3 Bloodstained Mire
2 Overgrown Tomb
3 Raging Ravine
1 Stomping Ground
1 Twilight Mire
4 Verdant Catacombs
1 Wooded Foothills
3 Fulminator Mage
2 Kitchen Finks
1 Grim Lavamancer
1 Liliana, the Last Hope
1 Grafdigger's Cage
2 Nihil Spellbomb
2 Ancient Grudge
1 Anger of the Gods
2 Collective Brutality
Bogles
-2 Fatal Push
-2 Terminate
+1 Anger of the Gods
+2 Nihil Spellbomb
+1 ???
Burn
-4 Dark Confidant
-2 Thoughtseize
-2 ???
+3 Fulminator Mage
+2 Kitchen Finks
+1 Anger of the Gods
+2 Collective Brutality
Jund
-4 Inquisition of Kozilek
-2 Thoughtseize
+2 Fulminator Mage
+1 Grim Lavamancer
+2 Kitchen Finks
+1 Liliana, the Last Hope
Living End
-2 Fatal Push
-2 Kolaghan's Command
-4 Liliana of the Veil
+3 Fulminator Mage
+2 Nihil Spellbomb
+2 Collective Brutality
+1 ???
Ponza
-1 Scavenging Ooze
-2 Kolaghan's Command
+1 Grim Lavamancer
+2 Collective Brutality
Valakut
-2 Fatal Push
-2 Kolaghan's Command
-3 ???
+3 Fulminator Mage
+2 Kitchen Finks
+2 Collective Brutality
Storm
-2 Kolaghan's Command
-2 Terminate
-2 ???
+1 Grafdigger's Cage
+2 Nihil Spellbomb
+1 Anger of the Gods
+2 Collective Brutality
UW Control
-2 Fatal Push
-4 Lightning Bolt
-2 Terminate (Keep 1 vs Gideon)
+3 Fulminator Mage
+2 Kitchen Finks (Cut 1 vs Gideon)
+1 Liliana, the Last Hope
+2 Collective Brutality
Grixis Control
-2 Fatal Push
-4 Lightning Bult
-2 Terminate
-1 ???
+3 Fulminator Mage
+2 Kitchen Finks
+2 Nihil Spellbomb
+2 Collective Brutality
Jeskai Control
-2 Fatal Push
-2 Terminate
-4 Lightning Bolt
-2 ???
+3 Fulminator Mage
+2 Kitchen Finks
+1 Liliana, the Last Hope
+2 Nihil Spellbomb
+2 Collective Brutality
Hollow One
-2 Bloodbraid Elf
-4 Liliana of the Veil
-1 ???
+1 Grafdigger's Cage
+2 Nihil Spellbomb
+1 Ancient Grudge
+1 Anger of the Gods
+2 Collective Brutality
Humans
-4 Inquisition of Kozilek
-2 Thoughtseize
-1 Liliana of the Veil
+1 Grim Lavamancer
+2 Kitchen Finks
+1 Liliana, the Last Hope
+1 Anger of the Gods
+2 Collective Brutality
8 Rack
- ???
+ ???
Counters Company
-2 Liliana of the Veil
-2 Kolaghan's Command
-4 Inquisition of Kozilek
+3 Fulminator Mage
+2 Kitchen Finks
+1 Liliana, the Last Hope
+1 Grafdigger's Cage
+1 Anger of the Gods
Dredge
-4 Liliana of the Veil
-2 Maelstrom Pulse
-2 Terminate
+1 Grim Lavamancer
+1 Liliana, the Last Hope
+1 Grafdigger's Cage
+2 Nihil Spellbomb
+1 Anger of the Gods
+2 Collective Brutality
Affinity
-1 Bloodbraid Elf
-4 Liliana of the Veil
-1 Inquisition of Kozilek
-2 Thoughtseize
+3 Fulminator Mage
+1 Grim Lavamancer
+1 Liliana, the Last Hope
+2 Ancient Grudge
+1 Anger of the Gods
UR Breach
-2 Fatal Push
-4 Lightning Bolt
-2 Terminate
+2 Kitchen Finks
+1 Liliana, the Last Hope
+2 Collective Brutality
+3 ???
Infect
- ???
+ ???
Death and Taxes
- ???
+ ???
Ad Nauseam
- ???
+ ???
Lantern Control
- ???
+ ???
Tron
-2 Fatal Push
-2 Terminate
-1 Inquisition of Kozilek
+3 Fulminator Mage
+2 Ancient Grudge
Eldrazi Tron
-2 Kolaghan's Command
-3 Inquisition of Kozilek
+3 Fulminator Mage
+2 Kitchen Finks
Grixis Death's Shadow
-4 Lightning Bolt
-2 Inquisition of Kozilek
-2 ???
+3 Fulminator Mage
+2 Kitchen Finks
+1 Liliana, the Last Hope
+2 Nihil Spellbomb
4-5c Death's Shadow
-3 Inquisition of Kozilek
-2 Thoughtseize
+2 Kitchen Finks
+1 Liliana, the Last Hope
+2 Nihil Spellbomb
RG Eldrazi
- ???
+ ???
Elves
- ???
+ ???
UB Mill
- ???
+ ???
Naya Zoo
- ???
+ ???
Grishoalbrand
- ???
+ ???
BW Planeswalker Pox
- ???
+ ???
Madcap Moon
- ???
+ ???
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How would you sideboard vs Eldrazi Tron, Titanshift, Bogles, and Grixis Death's Shadow?
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It's a 80min long video. You probably want time stamps if you want anyone to answer those questions.
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What will your board look like with that last? I assume something similar too:
3 Fulminator Mage
1 Grim Lavamancer
1 Kitchen Finks
1 Thrun, the Last Troll
1 Liliana, the Last Hope
1 Grafdigger's Cage
2 Nihil Spellbomb
2 Ancient Grudge
1 Anger of the Gods
1 Collective Brutality
1 Maelstrom Pulse
Also, not sure if I only want to have Pulse in the Sideboard. I feel like it's such a good catchall card. I know it can be slow in some match ups, but I feel like I'm almost never sad to see that card.
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I know you want to flaunt your foil deck, but can you please post a normal decklist like everyone else. No one wants to try and decipher your picture..
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You can't take information from a meta 5 years ago and directly apply it to current day. The decks that Jund was facing back then could be completely different than what our meta ends up being today. I agree that we should start at 25 lands, and go from there. However, you can use the information from the those decks - but don't apply it as a fact like you seem to be doing.
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